GAH!
I never noticed that!!
AHHHHHHH, YOU'VE RUINED IT FOR ME!!!!!!
Posts by Xander
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59The Two Towers
by Xander injust saw this.. great movie.
not as good as book, but about matches it roughly as good as fellowship matched the book.. gollum is class act - for those worried the little cgi creature wouldn't work, don't be!
he looks great - and the voice acting is dead one.. won't say too much, as spoilers might ruin it for some, but you really, really should see the extended edition dvd of the fellowship before seeing this movie.
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Cochlear Implants Bacterial Meningitis
by Yizuman in.
for all those who may have a hard of hearing or deaf children or those the readers who are hoh or deaf that is considering a cochlear implant may want to consider the problem that may associate to the side effects and health problems as a result of the implants.. .
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Xander
Now, to answer the question, if I became blind today, my life is not over. I will learn to overcome my new disability and live a normal life as the best I can.
Yes, but you DIDN'T answer the question. You dodged it again.
This whole topic is NOT about a disability that cannot be fixed - IT CAN BE.
If you were blind at birth, and would not have been save for someone witholding treatment from you to preserver the 'blind community', how would you feel?
Not talking about non-repairable damage - it IS repairable. But you are opposing it solely on the grounds that it will dimish the 'deaf community', hence my example.
How would you feel if someone never let you see anything your whole life solely to console themselves over their own blindness (sorry, I mean, 'so the blind community is not dimished')?
How is that 'right'?
Hitler considered any form of disability to be inferior and he killed a good number of them in Germany
You're completely going off topic. We are not talking about PUNISHING people who ALREADY HAVE disabilities, just allowing those who don't NEED TO DEAL WITH THEM (because a 'fix' exists) to NOT HAVE TO.
Are we not part of nature? Why fix nature when we are part of it?
In any case, this is a false argument, surely you are aware. Natural selection breeds out defects. Animals who can't hear will not be as successful as those who can, so genetic defects causing deafness are continually being weeded out of nature.
Edited by - Xander on 20 December 2002 22:26:40
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Cochlear Implants Bacterial Meningitis
by Yizuman in.
for all those who may have a hard of hearing or deaf children or those the readers who are hoh or deaf that is considering a cochlear implant may want to consider the problem that may associate to the side effects and health problems as a result of the implants.. .
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Xander
I had a dog that was born deaf and he did fine
But the species as a WHOLE has hearing - individual defects aside. Why do you suppose that is?
bats are born naturally blind
Bats are not blind - that's a common urban legend.
I know of one person at work at Wal-Mart who is blind and deaf
Okay, and if she had the choice at birth to have been able to see and hear her whole life instead of being blind and deaf, don't you think she would?
And, in fact, that isn't even a fair question because she has no point of reference. She doesn't realize what she is missing, so she may well still choose the known quantity.
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Let me phrase the question differently:
You know what it is to see. You can see just fine. Great.
Now, assume you couldn't. You were born blind. You've never seen a sunset or sunrise or beautiful woman. Never seen the majestic mountains, rolling clouds, the first snowfall in winter. Never seen any movie, TV show, or read - really READ - a book. Computers are next to useless to you. You DO know what you'd be missing if you couldn't see.
Now, what if you couldn't see because the treatment to enable you to see was denied you at birth? They COULD have treated your blindness, but someone didn't want to because it would diminish the 'blind community'.
What would you say to them? Knowing all you would have lost in this example?
How can you inflict a similar decision on somone else?
beauty of our deaf culture
And, you know what's amazing?
Absolutely everything you listed after that quote - HEARING PEOPLE CAN DO TOO. Only BETTER.
Why is inferiority something to be cherised WHEN IT CAN BE FIXED?
Again, think of your ability to see. Everything you've seen in your life, everything you've appreciated.
Let me assure you - the ability to hear perfectly is just as wonderful. If you don't think you need it - fine. If you want to appreciate the 'culture', as you call it, that has arisen from people trying to cope with a disability, fine.
I just think it is a serious error to force that on someone else.
Edited by - Xander on 20 December 2002 21:19:17
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Xander
Yeah, anymore I just keep an eye on startrek.com for plot summaries of upcoming episodes, and only watch what sounds interesting (keeps the average quality of shows I see high enough for me to think - falsely - there may be some hope).
That's how I caught the tidbit about the Tholians - scheduled for Feb 19 - should be interesting, at least! (I mean, to see how THEIR continuity is butchered, which will be truly awe-inspiring, since there is only the 1 episode to work from!)
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Xander
Well, I can kinda bring myself to watch it off and on, only because it's the only decent SciFi on right now (Stargate is awesome, but we've missed too much for most of what happens these days to make sense).
That's not saying it doesn't suck - it does, and we miss most episodes without losing too much sleep over it.
Of course, I DO like the cameos from the known races in Enterprise. That's about the only thing that saves it - seeing how the races evolve (those that they don't COMPLETELY bugger up - but, even then, it's interesting to see).
The Romulan episode wasn't bad overall (aside from the stupid - STUPID writers getting their name wrong). The Tholians are scheduled to appear in February, which should be neat.
Incidently, the idiots Rodbar is looking for are: Rick Berman & Brannon Braga, who are generally reputed to be the ones single handedly responsible for 'destroying' Star Trek. They took over near the end of DS9, IIRC, and were responsibly for Voyager and Enterprise.
To be fair, their concepts aren't bad. A starship stuck on the other end of the galaxy trying to get home? A look back at the founding of the Federation?
SOUNDS good.
It's just....well....they can't write for sh!t. And their casting choices suck. And they cannot take a risk. And they have a complete and total disregard for not only real science, real military procedures, but also continuity ALREADY ESTABLISHED in the Trek universe. I mean, it's one thing to throw some amount of physics or real procedures/rank/etc overboard in a fiction universe. But to then include substitutes that you later ignore and then, even later ignore THOSE substitutions for something ELSE entirely....*shakes head*
They are TRYING to make Trek the SciFi equivelant of N'Sync or what-have-you. Don't take any risks, just do what the masses seem to want. Which means, not really GOOD, but 'commercially safe'.
Edited by - Xander on 20 December 2002 16:30:10
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Cochlear Implants Bacterial Meningitis
by Yizuman in.
for all those who may have a hard of hearing or deaf children or those the readers who are hoh or deaf that is considering a cochlear implant may want to consider the problem that may associate to the side effects and health problems as a result of the implants.. .
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Xander
1 Death, 4 deaths, 9 deaths. All too many. They died unneccessarly. A loss of life should never happen in this case except for old age.
But, that's unrealistic. 95,000 people die in the US every year from what is considered malpractice. People going in for routine surgeries, operations, whatever. 95,000 a year.
So you're saying that once a person becomes deaf, it's the end of the world?
Never said that. I said if it can be 'cured' it should be.
Being deaf is not a life threatening situation as apposed to having cancer.
Fine, bad example. (Actually, it still does increase the likelyhood of accidental death - all land based animals evolved hearing for a reason, but that's besides the point).
Still - it's similar to opposing the 'instand bone mending' treatment because it destroys the 'crippled culture'. Or opposing a spinal repair treatment because it destroys the 'paraplegic culture'.
Or....a far better analogy...opposing technology to allow bling people to see - as it would destroy the 'blind culture'. You can see, no? What of those who cannot? You can thus measure - would losing the solidarity they have, being a community who cannot see, not be worth the ability TO see?
It's been fixed, we have sign language and we can read and write.
So, you would accept all those 'fixes', but not one that actually helps you HEAR? Why? Why are those 'fixes' okay, but not the ability to hear?
So being deaf isn't normal?
Ummmm....NO. Of course it isn't! That's why it's called a 'disability'. Yes, there may be some ways around some of the limitations. But, could you really comment on the musical quality of Metallica's latest works as compared to their earlier ones? Even on a more serious tone, what a tornado came through? Not hearing the warning sirens would seem to be something of a problem to me. Honking horns from a car about to hit you if you don't move NOW? Kinda miss those?
I don't understand why you'd oppose a way to fix that?
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Cochlear Implants Bacterial Meningitis
by Yizuman in.
for all those who may have a hard of hearing or deaf children or those the readers who are hoh or deaf that is considering a cochlear implant may want to consider the problem that may associate to the side effects and health problems as a result of the implants.. .
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Xander
NINE deaths?
Out of SIXTY THOUSANDS implants?
My gods, those are better odds than taking an aspirin gives you. Are you mad?
(Well, alright, not so much, but those are still damn good odds)
Basically what this means is that this can lead to a total eradication of the Deaf Culture as a whole.
I'm sure this will come of as rude and/or insensitive....
WHY would you want to allow a disability to continue when it could be stopped? It would be more like scientists discovering a way to instantly mend broken bones, but you oppose it because it would 'destroy the culture of people with crutches'. Or opposing a cure for cancer because it would destroy the 'culture of victims of cancer'.
Being deaf is not a normal difference between humans (as skin color is). It's a defect or disability. If it CAN be fixed, it SHOULD be.
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History doomed to repeat itself...
by Reborn2002 inanother fine example of the violation of civil liberties perpetrated by the bush administration / ashcroft-led justice department under the guise of fighting "terror.
is this not "terror" in itself?
at what point is it acceptable for the american people to allow such actions to be committed against fellow american citizens simply because these people are of arab descent?
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Xander
people who were rounded up are from countries that are known to support terrorism
And, this is EXACTLY the wrong reason to do something.
If someone breaks a law - they SHOULD be arrested. Not checked to see if they come from a country supporting terrorism or not. That's just stupid - MOST people coming from such a country are FLEEING the governments that use terrorism as an instrument of national policy.
And note, I'm not saying that things like profiling at airport security is wrong (really, strip searching grannies only because they were the 20th person is line is just silly). But, ARREST, that's something different. Inconveniencing an anonymous someone just because they are more likely to be a terrorist is bad, but necessary, IMHO.
ARRESTING one group more than others, throwing them in jail, etc just because they are more likely to be a terrorist is NOT fine.
If they want to arrest every illegal immigrant (and the US *certainly* has the manpower to do it if they wanted to), then fine, more power to them. They really SHOULD do that. But, don't pick the laws to enforce or not based on nationality or religion.
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The Two Towers
by Xander injust saw this.. great movie.
not as good as book, but about matches it roughly as good as fellowship matched the book.. gollum is class act - for those worried the little cgi creature wouldn't work, don't be!
he looks great - and the voice acting is dead one.. won't say too much, as spoilers might ruin it for some, but you really, really should see the extended edition dvd of the fellowship before seeing this movie.
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Xander
Just saw this.
Great movie. Not as good as book, but about matches it roughly as good as Fellowship matched the book.
Gollum is class act - for those worried the little CGI creature wouldn't work, don't be! He looks GREAT - and the voice acting is DEAD ONE.
Won't say too much, as spoilers might ruin it for some, but you really, REALLY should see the extended edition DVD of the Fellowship before seeing this movie. Adds a lot of detail you may have otherwise not caught on to.
The casting of Eowyn and Wormtongue couldn't have been better, either. Overall, a very impressive movie.
Highly recommended.
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New to JW and looking for the right associations.
by sunflwergirl420 ini have been studying to become a witness for about 1yr now and am doing what i can to become clean to be baptised.
unfortunately almost all of my friends were bad associations and i don't deal with them anymore.
i am looking for people to chat with who have the same goals in mind that i do.
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Xander
What Inquiry said.
He/she smarter than me.
Me just acerbic....