Such a great update! I can only hope to follow in your footsteps soon. It was so difficult to see my husband and kids heading off to the meeting tonight, when the kids should've been finishing their homework and tucking into bed. The only comfort I can take is that I'm pretty sure if they were old enough to decide for themselves, they would stay as far away as possible from the KH.
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Update on my fade
by wizzstick init's been over 3 months since i first posted after years of lurking:.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/253883/1/my-story-a-kinda-newbie-from-the-uk#.ukhopt-yza8.
and what a 3 months it's been.
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If the big change at the AGM meeting is dropping the literal 144,000...
by slimboyfat inthe best conjecture seems to be that the gb are going to drop the literal 144,000 teaching, especially in view of the december watchtower that pointedly does not mention the 144,000 number.
if they are dropping the literal 144,000 number, but still claim that only a small number are anointed, and can partake, and that only a few are left on earth, then it is fair to ask what has really changed?
they are simply clearing up the embarrassing situation that there were obviously more than 144,000 "anointed" believers from 36 ad until now, and that the number of partakers has been increasing in recent years.
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I can't see them doing anything about the 144,000 or 1914, especially on the heels of the WT studies this month with big doctrinal changes. I think it's more likely that the paranoia streak continues and there's a big crackdown on inactive ones, i.e. "if someone can't even report 15 minutes of preaching in a month, how can they really be called a witness of Jehovah? No, in fact, if one were to fail to report any preaching activity for 6 consecutive months, they would no longer be considered one of Jehovah's Witnesses.". No DA or DF needed and it would really draw the line in the sand.
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Let the July 15, 2013 WT games BEGIN!! And may the odds be ever in your favor!!
by ILoveTTATT inso... this saturday, around the world, jw's will study the infamous july 15, 2013 wt.
please comment on all the bs and how the jw's take it, if you are a fader or a lurker.. let the games begin!
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Rubadubdub- you have a PM.
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Find a way
by dissonance_resolved ini found diana nyad's epic swim from cuba to florida to be really inspiring at this point in my journey from jw land to freedom.
her mantra was "you don't like this.
find a way.".
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Thanks cofty...
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Find a way
by dissonance_resolved ini found diana nyad's epic swim from cuba to florida to be really inspiring at this point in my journey from jw land to freedom.
her mantra was "you don't like this.
find a way.".
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I found Diana Nyad's epic swim from Cuba to Florida to be really inspiring at this point in my journey from JW land to freedom. Her mantra was "You don't like this. It isn't doing well. Find a way.". This resonated so much with the feelings and experiences I've been having.
You don't like this. - I didn't ask to be born into a cult- it makes me angry. I don't like that my family is still in. I don't like that I woke up and they haven't. I don't like that I had already started to raise my children as JWs and now I have to figure out how to save them. I don't like that I gave years of my life to an empty shell of a religion.
It isn't doing well. - The emotional blackmail from friends and family hurts. The pre-emptive shunning stings. I'm not fully in and I'm not fully out, so I live a half-life, gasping for air and trying to keep my head above water.
Find a way. - There's no turning around and going back. I don't know what it's like to get to the other side, but I have to believe that I can do it and it will be worth it. I have to find a way.
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Is a slow fade being selfish when you have kids?
by dissonance_resolved inso i got some great advice to take things very slowly with the husband and kids in order to be able to fade and still maintain contact with my parents and siblings.
but today i got a call from my son's teacher that he was having a meltdown because he was worried about all his friends and teachers being destroyed at armageddon.... first i felt like such a schmuck for ever having allowed that thought to enter my son's head, then i thought, is it psychological torture for me not to immediately correct the situation?
i had a long talk with him about how god is perfectly just and full of love and he didn't have to worry about that at all, but it still seemed lukewarm.
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It's hard to believe it's been almost six months since I posted this. My son is doing much better in general- I got him into sports and other school activities and he has been making friends outside the hall- this has all boosted his confidence and self-esteem and he seems much happier. We even had a party for him and his new friends, which he was so excited about! I'm nearing the end of my planned fade- almost no meetings, at most one per month, and no service for the past five months. No one has asked me for a FS report, the elders haven't said a word and my family is still talking to me and pretending like nothing's wrong, though there's still a fair amount of emotional manipulation to try to boost my meeting attendance. It actually would be perfect, but as I've decreased my activity, my husband has increased his so I'm worried about where all this is headed. I had planned to attend the meetings to hear the discussion of the 7/15 Watchtower for myself and then call it quits. That's coming up soon, though! I can't even imagine where we'll be in another six months- either in a really good place or a really bad place....
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Foreign language groups
by dissonance_resolved inforeign language groups are the fastest growing groups of jws in the western world.
the best and brightest jws are drawn to them for the privileges, the challenge, the feeling of being special.
but in my experience, being in one of these groups has a side effect.
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Foreign language groups are the fastest growing groups of JWs in the western world. The best and brightest JWs are drawn to them for the privileges, the challenge, the feeling of being special. But in my experience, being in one of these groups has a side effect. You no longer focus on what is being said/taught/shared, rather you focus on the fact that you are saying/teaching/reading it in Chinese or Russian or French. Therefore, the ones who might have the most chance of waking up if they heard this stuff in their own language are really just further distracted. Step over into Macedonia, shall we?
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My story so far
by brainmelt ini've been trying to avoid posting this, due to extreme paranoia but its time to post my story.
i hope to not post too many details, as we've avoided being df so far, our group elder was young and lovely and cool and i just hope that in time he learns the ttatt.. i'm a regular lurker on here, occasional poster (i can't post much as my phone browser only lets me read but not post, so i only post on the odd occasion i get a time alone on the pc).
i have been fading since round about last september ( so almost my first anniversary of learning ttatt).
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Brainmelt- I'm so sorry to hear about what you and your family have been through! I hope your son gets better soon!
Out of curiosity, how did you help your husband see TTATT? Or did he realize it independently of you?
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watchtower tones down apostate talk at august 3rd convention!
by nowwhat? inno mention of them being mentally diseased or using "lies" to deceive god's people, just that they are out to attract followers for themselves!.
p.s.
i was cringing at the thought of sitting for 3 1/2 hours for the afternoon session but fortunately my one kid got sick!!
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It is possible that they received a last- minute notification to make some changes, probably due to the liability issues recently raised in Denmark. At our convention, my brother said they received an urgent letter regarding the drama- they were to make sure that Job and his wife were not standing next to each other or touching because, you know, they wouldn't be married anymore in paradise. Weird....
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Shocking talk from 2013 District Convention urges parents to shun disfellowshipped children
by cedars inhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yldwe_6jsu.
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The timing and placement of this talk late on Saturday afternoon is no coincidence. By that point, the attendees really are in a state of mass hypnosis and primed to accept just about anything. I noticed this when I attended the DC last month. The speakers all have that exaggerated modulation and enunciation that I've only ever heard at assemblies and conventions and something about it really does affect your mind after a while. All the negative stuff is usually on Saturday and then Sunday afternoon ends up with the feel good items so you leave feeling "encouraged" but the negative messages are still in your subconscious. It's kind of evil actually, especially if that's being done on purpose.