Somebody
I was under the impression that you rejected some of the Apostle Paul's words. Is not that the truth?
this is a question my df mother would like me to post for her:.
would it be morally right to go back to the jws, even though she doesn't feel it is god's org?
she would do this in order to speak with her life long friends and her youngest daughter, all of whom are quite emotionally distraught due to her dfing.
Somebody
I was under the impression that you rejected some of the Apostle Paul's words. Is not that the truth?
this is a question my df mother would like me to post for her:.
would it be morally right to go back to the jws, even though she doesn't feel it is god's org?
she would do this in order to speak with her life long friends and her youngest daughter, all of whom are quite emotionally distraught due to her dfing.
lisaBObeesa
Something that you and your mother may wish to take note of while considering the comments made by some of the posters above are:
Dannybear doesn't accept the Bible as being God's Word to Mankind.
Seven006 doesn't accept the Bible as being God's Word to Mankind.
Unclebruce doesn't accept the Bible as being God's Word to Mankind. [Sorry Unc, but rather than being in the position to render aid YOU yourself need help.]
Somebody doesn't believe that the Apostle Paul was inspired, and so don't fully accept the Bible as being God's Word to Mankind.
Do the opinions of such faithless people impress you and your mother?
raymond franz unwittingly reveals the truth insofar as the comparability of todays jehovahs witnesses and those who were true worshipers in queen esthers day.. raymond franz said:.
raymond franz, a high-ranking jehovah's witness who was disfellowshipped and then wrote two books about the inner workings of the faith, said he doesn't believe cases of pedophilia are any more prevalent in the denomination than in others.
but the religion's insularity leads to problems, he said.
Raymond Franz unwittingly reveals the truth insofar as the comparability of today’s Jehovah’s Witnesses and those who were true worshipers in Queen Esther’s day.
Raymond Franz said:
Raymond Franz, a high-ranking Jehovah's Witness who was disfellowshipped and then wrote two books about the inner workings of the faith, said he doesn't believe cases of pedophilia are any more prevalent in the denomination than in others. But the religion's insularity leads to problems, he said. [Insularity defined: Suggestive of the isolated life of an island.]“The thing is to keep everything within the system,” Franz said. "That's a natural reaction for Witnesses because they are essentially a closed community . . . " --
http://www.messenger-inquirer.com/news/kentucky/2742138.htm
Let it be noted that in Esther’s day it was similarly and correctly said of those who worshipped the true God Jehovah:
And Haman proceeded to say to King Ahasuerus: “There is one certain people scattered and separated among the peoples in all the jurisdictional districts of your realm; and their laws are different from all other people’s….” -- Esther 3:8.
So thank you Raymond Franz, for being so observant in this particular instance. It is so very clear who the TRUE worshipers of God are in this day and time. Truly, those who worship God in truth are distinguishable by their remaining ‘separate’ from all other peoples of the world. Yes, Jehovah’s Witnesses ARE a “closed community”, a community that properly chooses to “keep everything within the system”. These 'islanders' know full well that there is NOTHING that escapes the notice of the One that created the eye. Certainly Haman’s scheme didn’t go unnoticed, as seen by the fact that he was hung on his own gallows … something you may want to refresh your memory about Mr. Bill Bowen.
Yadirf
these days it's pretty clear that the jw organization is running on autopilot.
charles taze.
russell, joe booze rutherford, nathan knorr and freddie franz all had a certain amount of vision.
AlanF
You unashamedly said:
Unlike JWs, I retain a sense of ethics.What a JOKE!!! Hahahahaha! You have a sense of ethics about like Hitler did. Quit lying Alan. Do you need me to furnish proof of your so-called "ethics"?
the great depression had more to do with shaping the character and defining the last century than any other event, except the great wars that caused and followed the depression.
the structure of the financial system though has radically changed since that time, in that it is many times larger, global in fact, and it is much more fragile and complex, in that it reacts nearly instantaneously to various factors.
the average person is now much more dependent upon and indebted to the system as well.
Amazing
Perhaps you will still see this post. I had to be out of the house for the rest of the day shortly after I made my last reply to you.
I think to conclude that among the billions of stars and planets, and galaxies, that we are the only life other than God and the Angels is a bit arrogant and shortsighted.....It does not make sense, however, for these billions of stars with planets and billions of galaxies to be floating around lifeless and void of intelligent species.
Well, I think that it is quite reasonable to believe that the Earth just happened to be the starting place for God when he began to create physical life, and this is as far as it has progressed. What is it that you find so arrogant about the thought that once God had created (roughed-in) the vast material universe (galaxies, etc.) that afterwards he would start here with the Earth as a home for the first man and woman of his creation? He had to start SOMEWHERE, didn't he?
Yes, I am aware that it has become quite plain that in addition to our Earth there are indeed numberless places "out there" upon which to live ... once those places have been made habitable by their Creator that is. And yes, it would be awfully "shortsighted" as well as quite unreasonable for anyone to imagine that God created all those galaxies but had no intention of ever populating them with human, animal, and plant life.
For you, there has to be life "out there" NOW.
For me, there is sure to be life "out there" EVENTUALLY.
I'm confident that in God's due time every planet that circles around every sun that comprises each and every galaxy will be teaming with life. Believing that, I surely don't want to miss out on getting to see it all. And of course ONLY if a person gains everlasting life will there be a chance to take it all in.
Yadirf/fridaY
the great depression had more to do with shaping the character and defining the last century than any other event, except the great wars that caused and followed the depression.
the structure of the financial system though has radically changed since that time, in that it is many times larger, global in fact, and it is much more fragile and complex, in that it reacts nearly instantaneously to various factors.
the average person is now much more dependent upon and indebted to the system as well.
Amazing
You may as well forget it, Amazing, there's no life "out there" other than the angels and God himself.
'Fraid yer wrong about the collapse ... the sort of collapse I referred to has NEVER happened before, because it will be a collapse that all nations experience simultaneously.
...I have little confidence on the claim that the world's governments are in for a crash ... at least not in the way proposed by WTS....
Look, silly, it wasn't the WTS that made the proposal ... it was ME. Besides, the WTS don't see things this way. Are you into boozing it up again, Amazing? You know how you get after you've been keepin' company with Jack Daniels.
Ahh, ye of little sense. You poor soul, you must be Farkel's next of kin.
the great depression had more to do with shaping the character and defining the last century than any other event, except the great wars that caused and followed the depression.
the structure of the financial system though has radically changed since that time, in that it is many times larger, global in fact, and it is much more fragile and complex, in that it reacts nearly instantaneously to various factors.
the average person is now much more dependent upon and indebted to the system as well.
To Amazing
And I recall my dad saying that the public, the average American was determined to build an economy that would never go hungry again.
The Bible indicates that the world’s governmental system is in for a crash … a world-wide collapse. And similar to your dad’s expectations -- that there would be a determined effort by peoples to come up with a way to insure that such a thing that resulted in him standing in that soup line would never happen again -- after the future collapse (death-stroke of the 7th head of the wild beast) there will be measures taken to insure that such a devastating thing can never happen again. And what will such “measures” amount to? Nothing less than a World Government put in place, under which all nations are promised “peace and security”. And just how is such a World Government to be brought about? The Bible shows that it will come about as a result of the majority of today’s governments being willing to sacrifice their individual sovereignties and to pay allegiance to a centralized World Government. Yes, that’s the price the nations figure they will have to pay in order to guarantee that a world-wide collapse such as they will have experienced for the first time in history never happens again. Insofar as the few nations (pictured by the 3 horns that were made to fall; see Daniel 7:20) that will protest the proposition of a World Government, these, because they are in the minority (3 of the 10), will be forced to comply with the wishes of those nations who as a majority (7 of the 10) do want a World Government. Of course, "3" is no more literal than the "10" is. The 10 horns represent all existing governments, with the 3 horns simply representing a minority of those governments.
For those with open eyes it will be noticed that the 10 horns in Revelation 13 have diadems on them, while in Revelation 17 those same 10 horns do NOT have their diadems any longer. Yes, the Bible certainly forecasts not only a collapse but an upcoming World Government (8th King) that is to follow the 7th King which presently reigns. Because we of today live during the very time during which the foretold 7th King has made the scene, it is possible therefore that we may be the very generation that will witness the collapse … and also that which will come on its heals, namely a short-lived World Government.
My fifty bucks worth.
Yadirf
jst2laws is toast!.
after 29 years i am officially no longer serving as an elder.
those who knew i was still serving would only be surprised that i took so long.
Waiting
Have you already run outta Midol tablets again, Waiting?
Perhaps this is the beginning of being a free person.
I'm sure that's what Eve initially thought too! "Ahhh, Adam, just think, I'm free at last ... now I can do my own thing ... nobody to listen to except my own conscience! ... Come on Adam, let's get the hell outta this awful Garden!!! ... And besides, who needs God anyways! ... And who needs life for cryin' out loud!!! ... There's gotta be more important things in life than pursuing LIFE! ... I just wanna eat, drink, and be a merry fool ... don't you Adam?"
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anyone who's informed about the honorable joseph franklin rutherford knew what a jerk he was in life, but the creator in his infinite humor also wanted his death to remind us that whenever we fondly think of da judge, one word will always come to our mind: that word is "asshole.".
here's "indisputable" proof: http://farkel.0catch.com/index.html.
farkel
Farkel
Anyone who's informed about the Honorable Joseph Franklin Rutherford knew what a jerk he was in life, but the Creator in His infinite humor also wanted his death to remind us that whenever we fondly think of Da Judge, one word will always come to our mind: that word is "asshole."To express glee over another human for having contracted a disease, Farkel, is one of the lowest things that can be done. You have indeed sunk as low as a human can sink. I'm not sure that even Hitler would have even stooped to the level you have here. A certain scripture came to mind when I read your post, perhaps you should take a warning from it.
"And he [Farkel] kept loving the malediction, so that it came upon him.... And he came to be clothed with malediction as his garment. So it came like waters into the midst of him...." -- Psalms 109:17, 18.
Of course YOU don't place any faith in the Scriptures as being God's Word, but wouldn't it be ironical if it happened to be just by such a means that you were MADE TO SEE that they surely are the word of Jehovah.
| http://www.aimoo.com/forum/postview.cfm?id=311102&categoryid=2967&threadid=18518.
farkel
Gopher
What part of the following did you not read? All parts?:
There is absolutely no justification for deliberately mislabeling ANYTHING. What Simon is doing is comparable to placing a label that says "Beans" on a can that has corn in it instead. True, after the "discerning" person opens the can up he "can figure out in a very short time" that the label was false.
You said:
Why'd you turn the heat on me personally, and then when Farkel turned the heat on you (saying your "life is a lie" and you were an "apostate"), you whined in this fashion:ME, me, me. Let's talk about JW.com, JW.com, JW.com ... and how that title misrepresents the facts.If you didn't want Farkel to bash you, then why did you bash me (somebody you don't even know)?
I stuck with the subject in my reply to you, Farkel didn't in his reply to me. Look back at the comments and see whether or not what I say is true.
You asked:
Today, I merely pointed out an inconsistency in Rick's post that I didn't understand. Why did you attack ME rather than answer the point of my concern? Sheesh.
I compared you to a dishonest car salesperson because you attempted to justify the title of this DB. There is no justification for it, and I suppose that's the reason for the upcoming new name that you pointed me to.