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  What happens now???

  by Christina77 in

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  well i finally pushed my boyfriend to tell his parents.

  i wrote them a letter and told him about it, i gave him the choice to either tell them or it would be sent.

  so he finally gave in and told them on friday night.

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  yrs2long

  I can't help noticing that your experience is so close to Serena's. Maybe the two of you should share your experiences and when neither of your relationships don't pan out you can commiserate. It's the sad truth that odds are against things working out for you, especially in the long run.
  After my disastrous marriage to an abusive fellow, and after a couple of years of inactivity as a witness, I met a nice 'worldly' guy who I saw on several occasions. Mostly, though, we spent hours on the telephone, planning our lives together. After much time on the phone, sprinkled between maybe one or two dates, he finally bore me down to the point where I consented to call him my boyfriend. Poor guy, we were 'boyfriend/girlfriend' in this manner for several years and I would never see the guy. In exchange for the promise of a relationship, he had to listen to all of my witnessing even though I couldn't tell him where the nearest Kingdom Hall was. You see, it is very difficult to walk away from the dogma. During our relationship, he kept trying to break off with me as our relationship was going nowhere and although it was painful, I would always agree it was for the best because in my heart and mind I knew it wasn't going to happen. Once I finished my schooling and went back to meetings I knew we would break off anyway. Of course, these 'breakups' were really intended to jar me into the reality of losing him yet it never worked and he would always come back sadder than ever because I could so easily let him go. This went on for several years. The guy was an atheist and after all of my bible discussions he finally came to the point where he began praying; first, with the hope that maybe God would get us together and finally, just for comfort from his sadness and loneliness. He turned to God, not the JW's though - they came to his door and were haughty and rude to him, much to my dismay. Finally, after 3 years, I came around and told him we could be together, a 'real' relationship. And after several days consideration, he told me, "nope, can't honestly imagine having a life without celebrating birthdays and holidays or any other of that JW mess." And with that he walked out of my life.

  All of this is to say that when the indoctrination runs so deeply, it may not matter if the person is inactive, not baptized or crazy in love with you. In the back of a witness mind is the idea displeasing Jehovah, of a divided nuclear family life and/or the disdain of other witnesses and family who see you as having been weak for succumbing to a worldly person.
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  All this fighting is worthless

  by Danni in

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  i posted this same topic earlier but it didn't go through so i have to do it again.. i didn't think my ten questions would cause a person(youknow) to be attacked because his opinions was different from the majority.. alanf.

  i don't know you personally and i don't know what you have gone through in your life, but i can say from what i have seen in here you have a lot of angry,hate, and other issues inside you that needs to be dealt with.

  you oblivious have some sort of history with this man.

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  yrs2long

  Dave,

  It really breaks my heart to read of your experiences with your JW mother and that of the many others who've lost contact with their family members. When I read Crisis of Conscience and learned the details of just how close the voting was for many watchtower 'truths', it made me feel so duped to think of how quickly and faithfully many of us Dumbdubs jumped on the wagon, er, chariot, after the new light was revealed.

  Take care
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  Should I post here anymore?

  by Mindchild in

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  that is the question i've been asking myself.

  i'm not trolling for attention with this post.

  nobody has hurt my feelings.

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  I stumbled across this site in pain looking for the official WT site for information. I never did quite make it. From this site I found links to much hard-hitting information which caused me to embark upon my own personal research.

  To tell the truth, although I enjoy much of the research here, I mainly come to this discussion board for the banter among the ex-jws and for updates to the goings on at the WTBTS. Initially, I was thrilled to discover other like-minded individuals and that they (most of them, at any rate) were not demonized losers bent on attacking true witnesses. I am extrememly grateful to read the comments, research and whatever of all the posters on this site. This board was a lifeline to me for several weeks after I turned my back on wts.

  I have tried on a couple of occasions to 'engage' some of the established posters but, with the exceptions of a few of them, I was largely ignored. So, I mainly stick to just reading posts every now and again and try to duck and hide from the venomous posters.

  On the side, I would like to express my appreciation to cowboy and outnfree who always greet new posters in a cordial manner in chat.
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  Fear and pain and death...

  by Cowboy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  do you fear death?if so,do you fear it because of the pain that is likely to go along with it?or because of what will become of your soul(your self)after death?.

  curiosly,i find that i no longer fear death.not that i want to die-i don't.but i wonder if this how i should feel.. i don't like pain,but i have a fairly high threshold of pain,i think.i'm sure there is much greater pain than what i have experienced,but though i avoid it when at all possible(including spankings...sorry chat babes),i'm not afraid that i can't deal with it if i have to.. likewise death,i just have no great fear of it anymore.i don't think that it's due to my beliefs about what will happen after i die...i don't have any.sure,i was raised a j.w.,instilled from birth with the idea that if i didn't survive armageddon,that i'd be resurrected thereafter.but i don't buy that anymore...neccesarily.nor do i believe in the heaven or hell concept...neccesarily.i do believe that if i'm the best kind of person i can be,then it will have to be good enough for whatever,if anything,lies beyond the life i'm living now.. in talking to others,though,i find very few(if any)people who don't have a pretty high degree of fear about death.it has me wondering,and i'd appreciate your comments.. cowboy.

  we ride and never worry about the fall.

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  Hi cowboy,

  Up until a couple of months ago, I feared death with a passion and went out of my way to avoid meeting it at all costs. I was very much a believer in being in the wrong place, wrong time. This meant not taking flights even though I love to travel, no general amnesia, nor being caught in 'shady' neighborhoods and so forth. I just never felt that I was in a good enough standing to qualify for eternal life. Since I have turned my back on WT, I find that those fears have abated quite a bit and I've been experiencing 'real' living for once.

  However, I was doing some reverse witnessing to my inactive sister recently and when I expressed the above she revealed feeling just the opposite: she didn't begin experiencing fear of dying until becoming inactive.
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  the WTBTS - Its own insurance agency?

  by yrs2long in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  doing a watchtower search on googles.com, i came across not a few sites/hmo's listing the insurance companies they accept and listed among quite a few was watchtower bible tract society.

  does the society have an internal health insurance agency?

  i asked my boyfriend about this and he said that in order for that to be the case, a company has to have plenty of money and usually does this to be able to specify its own coverage, i.e., no blood transfusions.

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  yrs2long

  Doing a watchtower search on googles.com, I came across not a few sites/hmo's listing the insurance companies they accept and listed among quite a few was Watchtower Bible Tract Society. Does the society have an internal health insurance agency? I asked my boyfriend about this and he said that in order for that to be the case, a company has to have plenty of money and usually does this to be able to specify its own coverage, i.e., no blood transfusions. Is this old news? Is this the coverage bethelites and the GB have?

  http://www.fountainvalleyhospital.com/Services/Insurance.asp#five

  edited to provide sample site
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  Double-standards?

  by Billygoat in

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  how is it that a woman can look at another woman and say, "wow!

  " and nobody thinks a thing about it.

  but when a man looks at another man and says, "wow!

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  I thnk joelbear hit it on the head:

  The dominant culture has no need to express pride in its culture because everything in society screams its pride; the media, arts, history and education all proclaim and glorify white culture and accomplishments in America. Other cultures seek to reestablish or exclaim their own pride amidst the dominant culture.

  THIS IS MY OPINION of course.

  edited to sound less offensive
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  Business Territory

  by Amazing in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  business territory in the 1960s and 1970s: when i was first associated in the late 1960s, it was common to see jws roaming the streets of downtown districts, offering the magazines.

  sometime in the early 1970s, after i had been a jw for a few years, we worked businesses directly.

  this was especially true when certain events were newsworthy - such as the persecution of jehovah's witnesses in malawi.

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  My cong did laundromats and busstops. I actually began several studies from working a couple of bus stops.
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  Working from Home - Ideas?

  by YoYoMama in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i am looking to work from home.

  do any here have any ideas of how i can get into this?

  i've thought about the medical transcripts, but don't know who to contact.

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  yrs2long

  you might try translating documents for companies or perhaps try work as a proofreader.
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  A little IQ test

  by beroea in

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  yrs2long

  Farkel,

  what base are you using? did you start with base ten and then make a switch to another, say base 3?
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  A little IQ test

  by beroea in

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  yrs2long

  I think Farker is using negative base or something like that but I'm no math wiz.