Posts by Yvonne

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BEATING KIDS IN THE WASHROOM

by Rags in

i am 36 yr old female originally from toronto ontario canada.

was raised jw till i was about 14. has anyone else had this happen in their hall?

the mom's (thank god never mine!

Dear people,
It is still true...One of the things that keep me away from being a JW is the fact that I am afraid that the nice-happy-good family thing does not really exists...Yesterday evening I was at the Memorial in a big Congress Hall, and two children about 3 and 4 years old were being carried away and soon we heard the tremendous crying and yelling of these poor children. My 17 year old daughter and I watched the sister who was with us, and later asked her, what this is. She said it is not proper to judge the way other people bring up their childeren, and that is more important to look at our own imperfections.
And then there are these sisters, I know them from the place I work. They do look happy only on congresses and in the evening. During the day I hear how they are tired, how they feel they have to do to much and how they are really just the slave of the husband.
I do know nice JW's too, especially some gentlemen, but I think everybody should help the poorer and less equipped. What is real about the family-happiness JW-style???

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Is he sinning?

by Yvonne in

i have a kind of platonic relationship with an elder jw.

he is the most loving, caring and wise person i know.

we have never, ever have talked about this love or anything else improper.

Yvonne

Dear everyone!
I am very very happy with the answers you gave to me. I feel a lot of kindness in your words and I need that very much. Thank you all. You are right in everyting you say, I KNOW I must not lead anyone in temptation and I would really never do a thing like that. But I agree that this is maybe a dangerous thing.
I respect very much the words of Elder Flower, I took me a lot of time to rad your message, because it was very emotional to me. You speak the same way as the Elder I love so much. But please don't think wrong of me. I (maybe falsely) think that love cannot be wrong. One can do wrong things, but the real love, the one from 1 Corinthians 13, as spoken by Paul..Is it so wrong to feel that?
It is my 'friend' who taught me this.
We were colleagues, he was my manager. Everytime there was an argument he citated this words from the bible, and is was just then that I began admiring an loving is friendly, wise, good ways.
WE talked a lot (always in the office, with the door wide open) about spritual things. As I said before, he wants me to be happy and thinks I should be a JW too. Therefore I already undertook a bible study, but I always have a lot of doubts and second thoughts. The strange thing is, that when 'he' tells me the same things I feel completely sure. I evenasked him, if this is not very wrong of me. Because it is the message, and not the messenger that makes the diference.
When we meet for coffee (once in a while, not on a regular basis, and when we mail) it is mostly about things like this.
The answer to my question he gave was: that if my heart was touched by his words, which are not his, but Jehovah's, Jehovah God probably meant it to be that way. He said it is not a shame, even the apostles had all their own ways of speaking and attracted in that way more people. I tell you all this because I am not a wicked person that wants to snatch husbands from other people. I cannot ask him, if my behaviour is sinful. He would deny, because I really think that this person is so good, he maybe wouldn't see any harm in my loving him so much. That is why I wrote in the first place. I don't want to hurt him. Nor his wife, nor his children, nor my husband, nor my daughter.
But knowing that a so wonderful person cares about me, makes me so happy. It is all so confusing. I am very sorry, I am crying a lot and writing like a dummy. Dear Elder Flower, thank you again for your words, and the others too. P.S. Yesterday I was in the Memorial Night, as always, no we are not in the same congregation, but I know he wants me to be there and I feel a little comforted being there. I also have to say that I read in these pages about the words that were to be spoken and the letter that was already published on these pages. It is not true. The speach was beautiful.

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Is he sinning?

by Yvonne in

i have a kind of platonic relationship with an elder jw.

he is the most loving, caring and wise person i know.

we have never, ever have talked about this love or anything else improper.

Yvonne

I have a kind of platonic relationship with an Elder JW. He is the most loving, caring and wise person I know. We have never, ever have talked about this love or anything else improper. We just talk on the phone now and then, exchange some emails and once in a while we meet to have coffee and talk. We talk about anything possible and always he always ends up talking religion, because he wants me te be happy, and thinks I shoud be a JW too. But I can't. I would, but it is not just to do it for him is it? I am concerned that the 'relationship'we have might harm him. Is it ok for an elder, married with childeren, to socialize this way with a woman like me? Allthough we never talked about it, he knows I love him deeply and I need to talk to him. I can tell, he cares about me too. Is this sinful? I don't want to make him unhappy...Please can some of you JW's tell me this?
Yvonne