elders son here and totally relate...some things will never change about the way that they live their lives and the way they practice their religion. even when it comes to family...it IS good to know that we are not alone....
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i found this site by accident while looking for something on the computer for my son.
i have been trying to log on but couldn't seem to get a password.
today i thought...hmm wonder if my spam folder caugh it.
elders son here and totally relate...some things will never change about the way that they live their lives and the way they practice their religion. even when it comes to family...it IS good to know that we are not alone....
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proof that animals are sentient, intelligent beings:
by bilen mesfin, associated press writer .
woodside, calif. - when koko the gorilla used the american sign language gesture for pain and pointed to her mouth, 12 specialists, including three dentists, sprang into action.
ok..as the resident xjw with a lifetime of REAL American Sign Language on my record I feel as though I should say something to this article..I read the same article in the online news today and to be honest was NOT impressed...I have been signing 99%percent of my life and have deaf parents and for someone to call the language that I use (ASL) the bridging link between myself and monkeys?! I appreciate the communication with animals thing but seriously...the monkey was taught a set of BASIC HANDSHAPES the monkey was NOT taught ASL....ASL is much more than "my tooth hurts and hurts alot" sorry...this ruffled me a bit the wrong way...Deaf people have been fighting for YEARS to get publicity for their language and one day a freakin MONKEY says that her tooth hurts and all of a sudden national headlines? oh man...anywayz...
(little ruffled son of deaf adults zanex)
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it was fathers day yesterday...i had an awesome day with my daughter and non jw xlaws.
i had an awesome time.
it is why it is so hard to accept that my own father would never want me to recognize him on just one day of the year.
It was fathers day yesterday...I had an awesome day with my daughter and non jw xlaws. I had an awesome time. It is why it is so hard to accept that my own father would never want me to recognize him on just one day of the year. A close dear friend of mine who is a non jw and has little if any knowledge of that dynamic told me to send an email or call my father and to wish him a happy fathers day. I told my friend that it would be of no good to send anything to my elder dad and highly devout mother. It would be just cause for them to get on my case once again. My friend was sort of bewildered and shocked that I could just nonchalantly blow my parents off like that. I have to remind myself that my parents did it to me first and that I have to stand my ground but it was hard explaining why I did not want to acknowledge my fathers anything on fathers day. If anything it just brought me anger when I thought about my dad. All those years wasted...all those things that "normal" people did...all of it wasted on me. Anywayz...ultimately..it was a good day and once again it validated my feelings that I am doing the right thing in never going back...gnite..
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now that i am no longer a jw, i can associate, and celebrate holidays and other family traditions with my non-jw relatives.
however i am sometimes bitter because i missed so many experiences as a child with my relatives that they seem almost like strangers rather than relatives.. does anyone else feel this way, and how have you bridged the gap?
I have a large worldly family that I have only within the last 4 years started to finally bond with and it is strange I agree...I found myself too having feelings of resentment because of being left out of so much...I even got the nickname the "lost cousin" cuz me and my jw sister were never there for ANY of the family gatherings...im 29 now and have become set in many of my ways. It is hard sometimes but they are patient with me. The fact that religion doesnt affect whatever they are to me makes it very easy for me to feel comfortable with them. I do appreciate my extended worldly family very much but wonder sometimes if I am a dissapointment to them. Ultimately I just try to do the best I can..one way or another it always seems to come out in some type of logical looking chaos...
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birthday on monday the 12th and i was home sick but still got a visit from my daughter and xwife (who is still a good friend of mine).
i have had now 3 of these bdays...and am not sure if i am feelin it or not...i think i do..it feels good, a warm feeling when my 3 year old daughter flings her arms around my neck and says happy bday daddy...it also hurts too..am having a bday party this weekend with my roommate and friends at my place and will probably be thrashed but i still dont know if i am ever going to totally "get it".
it has been a while since i posted here but it seems the only real place that other people understand the "emptiness" as i call it.
seeitclearly: lol..tru that...a re-programming kit for post jw deprogramming..LOL thanxz..that was a good laugh..
birthday on monday the 12th and i was home sick but still got a visit from my daughter and xwife (who is still a good friend of mine).
i have had now 3 of these bdays...and am not sure if i am feelin it or not...i think i do..it feels good, a warm feeling when my 3 year old daughter flings her arms around my neck and says happy bday daddy...it also hurts too..am having a bday party this weekend with my roommate and friends at my place and will probably be thrashed but i still dont know if i am ever going to totally "get it".
it has been a while since i posted here but it seems the only real place that other people understand the "emptiness" as i call it.
Valis: ironically enough all is well..life continues, school threatens to never end and my child seems to think that growing is something that she will not stop doing. LOL. Sigh. things are good. having a rather drastic career change but it is looking perfect so I think things are good. Cant complain anyway...;)
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birthday on monday the 12th and i was home sick but still got a visit from my daughter and xwife (who is still a good friend of mine).
i have had now 3 of these bdays...and am not sure if i am feelin it or not...i think i do..it feels good, a warm feeling when my 3 year old daughter flings her arms around my neck and says happy bday daddy...it also hurts too..am having a bday party this weekend with my roommate and friends at my place and will probably be thrashed but i still dont know if i am ever going to totally "get it".
it has been a while since i posted here but it seems the only real place that other people understand the "emptiness" as i call it.
birthday on monday the 12th and I was home sick but still got a visit from my daughter and xwife (who is still a good friend of mine). I have had now 3 of these bdays...and am not sure if I am feelin it or not...i think I do..it feels good, a warm feeling when my 3 year old daughter flings her arms around my neck and says happy bday daddy...It also hurts too..am having a bday party this weekend with my roommate and friends at my place and will probably be thrashed but I still dont know if I am ever going to totally "get it". It has been a while since I posted here but it seems the only real place that other people understand the "emptiness" as I call it. Anyway...not really sure why I posted...just another year gone...
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why do i have to understand?.
why cant those fathers, mothers, sisters, brothers.
father, elder, which are you?.
Why do I have to understand?
Why do I have to "get it"
why cant those fathers, mothers, sisters, brothers
why cant THEY take it?
Father, Elder, which are you?
Son, Disfellowshipped, which am I?
"my worldly family doesnt accept me" is what u say
why should they when u ignore the things I cry?
I helped you when your family member died...
I was there for you when you needed me most...
I never said a word in anger...
yet I was to you invisible..a ghost...
I no longer feel the anger...I cry
I no longer feel the hate...I sigh..
I have lost that which was once important..
the relationship between you and I...
You watched me take my first steps..
my first words echoed in your eyes
yet now we have walls in place..
no more unconditional eyes.
I love you mother..
I love you father...
I love you sister...
Signed your Son, Brother...Disfellowshipped...
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or suit for the conventions and memorial?.
i have never understood this.
are they gonna hold a beauty pageant at the convention?
LOL LOL wow, I remember that come the beginning of every new school year I was the freshest nerd on the street but boy come that assembly or memorial it was slick shlick and shlicker and for some reason cost wasnt an issue when it was for the kh...ahhhhh memories...nothin like travellin down amnesia lane..this made me laugh..thanxz...
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i know its been awhile...i dont have to much to say right now.im at a loss for words..im dissfellowshipped now..the announcement will be in 2 weeks.i just need some support..
Yep I was 17 too when I got the big DF and I took the get wild and party road...balance the party with a pursuit of individual betterment. Always remember that you are NOT the sum of those jw announcements. The REAL truth is the one that you find in self-discovery. It isnt easy...I think that everyone here can agree on that one but with the help and support of ones here and possibly ones within your area that are non-jws it IS survivable. THe road is long and the difficult but the reward to surviving it is freedom-REAL freedom. I wish you the best!
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