Dutchie,
I'm truly sorry for your loss. Your late husband sounds like a fine man, one who loved you and respected your individuality. I'm glad you have such wonderful memories of your time with him. ((((Hugs))).
after eighteen years of marriage, my husband passed away last year of a terminal liver disease.
today is the aniversary of his death.
he died on april 22, 2001 and he was the love of my life.
Dutchie,
I'm truly sorry for your loss. Your late husband sounds like a fine man, one who loved you and respected your individuality. I'm glad you have such wonderful memories of your time with him. ((((Hugs))).
on april 20, 1977, my brother's wife, janice, died as a result of complications from childbirth.
the baby, their only son, also died unnamed.
this is a photo of my brother and janice .
(((Hugs) and understanding dear Mulan.
So many tragedies resulting from Watchtower dictates...so many lives changed forever...so very, very sad.
i thought you all would like to know that rekless had a heart.
attack.
he was at work and was taken to hospital by ambulance.. he had 2 stints put it and they are hoping that will do the .
Desertflower,
(((Hugs))) to you, and tons of well wishes to Rekless. Thanks for letting us know, and we hope he has a very speedy recovery.
just a little more of my personal experience shared by many thousands of others - maybe you were among them too.
it was just one of those things, one of those crazy flings.
a trip to the moon on gossamer wings!.
Trevor,
Without a doubt, that's just how I recall those years. And I knew many people who were also altering their
lifestyles, selling homes or taking out second mortgages they thought they would never have to pay back, in order to pioneer. Some even postponed corrective surgeries because they would be made whole and healthy in 'Paradise.'
My husband and I were already 'inactive' to a great extent, and I recall enormous pressure from family, sometimes even anger directed at us for not regularly attending meetings. Sometimes there was even outright ridicule for pursuing 'wordly' higher education, as it would be worthless in the New World, and surely garner Jehovah's 'disfavor' their mild-sounding word when they really meant Jehovah will kill you.
Nice to 'see' you here again Trevor, and I'm planning to order your book, sounds like a most interesting read.
wishing you a very happy birthday, dear angharad...and many more to come.
hope you have a nice celebration with your family.
we all appreciate all your efforts, too, in helping simon in keeping this forum going.
Wishing you a VeRy HaPPy BiRtHdAY, dear Angharad...and many more to come. Hope you have a nice celebration with your family. We all appreciate all your efforts, too, in helping Simon in keeping this forum going. It means so much to so many. Thank you!
for example: bulletin board.
(from cambridge international dictionary of english).
(british and australian) a notice board (am bulletin board) is a board on a wall on which notices can be fixed.
TR,
It was back in the 50's when I was corrected about using the term 'bulletin' board at our Kingdom Hall.
I was told that it was improper because it was akin to the Roman Catholic Church and their 'Papal Bulls'...therefore BULLetin board.
With Rutherford's hated of all things Catholic, I'm guessing he is the one who put that spin on the term.
Smoldering Wick, thanks for your very informative post. By now transferring this concept to 'electronic bulletin boards' they continue to try and reinforce this RCC spin and the evil of the Papal Bulls connection, IMO.
Interesting though, don't you think, that so very many of their members ignore their specific advice and instead seek out such bulletin boards.
Evidenced by the fact that we have several active posters currently using this forum to defend and post their JW mindset.
Before I made this post, I typed 'papal bulls' into a search engine, and then scanned the results. It was of note to me that the term 'apostate' showed up with frequency.
And, it is also noteworthy to view the RCC hierachy: Pope, Cardinals, Bishops, Deacons, laymen, etc. and the parallel structure of the Watchtower's own FDS, DO's, CO's, Elder's, Pioneers, R&F, etc.
this is from slate.com news magazine.
i've added colors to the particularly interesting sections.
who's that knocking on my door?.
VERY interesting, indeed. Thanks for posting it Pat.
i've been a bit short with people today in the forums, and i shouldn't have been quite so abrupt.
i get frustrated when i see exjws make the same mistake and join up with political groupthink just as they used to join with governing body groupthink.
it's all propaganda, as i keep trying to point out, but the fact is that you can believe whatever you want without my input.. i realize i keep harping on conservative hypocrisy lately, but that's because they are in power right now.
Seeker,
When I log-in on this site, I usually view the most active threads first. If your name is there, it is the first topic I read. I've always appreciated your commentary and insights. On more than one occasion you have been responsible for my own 'thinking' about an issue in a new and enlightened way.
And, I've seen you take a stand, then also do a little more 'seeking' re the topic and then re-address the issue...a good thing for any of us. I think your nick "Seeker" is most apt. I'm a so-called Democrat, married to a so-called Republican.
A short while back you made a post re the so-named liberal press, or lack thereof. It really had an impact on me. To put it to the test, I phoned a major conservative radio show; when I told the screener the nature of my call, that being: I would like the host to cite specific press articles that had recently been printed in any major U.S. newspaper that actually demonstrated out-and-out liberal thinking, my call/question was refused!
No matter what political party one might choose to claim, all display levels of corruption, and dishonesty.
We owe it to ourselves to educate ourselves re various issues as best we can, each and every time we cast a vote. Both my husband and I often vote across party-lines. But it is often with a heavy-heart and questionable outcome, eh?
You revealed your 'sensitive' side with your apology, but as you have seen, most of us don't even feel it was necessary...good for you, anyway. Hoping your mood lifts - warmest regards, Seeker. ZZ
here goes...i left the jws, nearly 10 years ago..i was 16 when my hand was helped along by firstly getting kicked out my parents home, (my dad had been an elder but was stood down for various family issues..me being one...and my mum was a ferocious terrier of a doorknocker..) anyway, i as a child was conditioned to please...as all jws are, and thought id give it another go, so went to live with my sister and her family ( jws too)... lasted a year before i got into"worldly hands", and my sister kicked me out... so, i went to share with my brother ( at least he wasnt a jw now, my parents threw him out too)..and got to hear from my dad that mum was dying of cancer, she was terminal...my brother and i grappled with feelings as we still wanted to see our parents and yet constantly had this cloud of ..you not being a jw are killing your mother..and my mum would beg us to come back to the "truth" so we would "live forever", this was my only ever hesitation in leaving the "organization"..and the emotional blackmail that was laid on was enormous....i managed to sit with my mum during all of her chemo treatments( something my 2 jw sisters never did) and she would constantly beg me to come back..i held my ground though it hurt to see she truly thought i was evil and would die at armageddon..my brother bore and still does the worst of this guilt..i managed to hold my ground even after my mum died an excruciatingly painful death and my dad publicly disowned my brother and i...i went to counselling and was told how well i had coped... so i went on to study and meet a great guy..marry him..a catholic!!!
(wg)...but, listening to my brother, just recently... after he went on jw sites.
( he feels he has to have answers to all of it..).
KissAFish,
Welcome, and cute name BTW.
Although I'm much older than you, I too got the 'guilt trip' ploy by my own mother when she was terminal with ALS. I was kind to her verbally, but did not buy into the guilt. After her tragic death, I learned directly from my elder stepdad, that she had been carrying on an affair for all the years she was a JW, with an ex-brother-in-law. Imagine that!
Good to have you here - looking forward to future posts from you.
holy crap!
i was surfing through this site when i hear a knock at my door.
no, it can't!
Hey Gilwarrior,
I've been out for over 35+ years, and I no longer even consider answering my door to JW's. Sure, we could give them an earful - but would they listen - I think not, probably would feel like they were persecuted for Jah's name-sake.
I do have a decal on my door, a tasteful one consisting of a circle, with the international 'no' diagonal line running across, and the message "No child molesters at my door!"
Silentlambs.org is printed at the bottom. Easy to remember, and some might just look at his website. You can obtain one from Bill Bowen, at a very modest cost. Or, even print one up of your own and tape it to your door.