i have been reading this site for a couple of months.
last night i stayed up all night, (not unusual for me though) and read the posts by ......well you know...the new kid on the block...who created so much fury.
at first i thought she was a fake, and i still do.
Notperfectyet
Another welcome. Like dear "Thinkers Wife" - I'm intrigued and am looking forward to further postings from you!
I like to call RedHorseWoman - errrr,
well - "RedHorseWoman - because it conjures up such a nice mental picture.
Don't you think so, too? :) Zazu
i have been having discussion with my sister (relative), who is an active witness, about writing a letter of disassociation.
the reason being is that i have not attended the meetings in over a year and it's been 4 years since i have went out in the jw ministry.. i going to try to sum this topic up.
my sister think that i should not da myself because i have not done any immoral act in her thinking.
When they were disfellowshiping in great numbers during the late '70s and into the '80s and announcing from the platforms "apostates" "unbelievers of Jehovah" "unchristian conduct"- people started threatening to sue, many did, they had to back off to some extent. Don't know why this wouldn't be somewhat effective if they take to announcing, without your confirmation,
"disassociated" - "I'll let you know when and if I decide I'm truly disassociated, "I'm thinking things over," "I'm just inactive right now."
At least it might buy Simon a little time until he relocates to Canada.
They will probably write to Society, at least giving you more time, with all the dialogue back and forth between congregation and HQ and legal department mulling it over. Go for it!
i have been having discussion with my sister (relative), who is an active witness, about writing a letter of disassociation.
the reason being is that i have not attended the meetings in over a year and it's been 4 years since i have went out in the jw ministry.. i going to try to sum this topic up.
my sister think that i should not da myself because i have not done any immoral act in her thinking.
I think we can except more of the above
on the part of the WTBTS - formally announcing 'disassociations' - even when the individual involved has refused to make concrete statements.
It has to be their way of dealing with those who try to 'just fade away,' in hopes of trying to leave the door ajar for family contact at some level.
For years this was somewhat effective - depending on the individuals involved -and it stymied, to some degee, efforts to take formal action.
What I don't know is if this is now a direct order from WTBTS headquarters.
I'm sure they didn't like not having control over such situations, and are now using this tactic to assert their "power" in such cases.
JT, are you there? Any thoughts on this anyone?
i have been having discussion with my sister (relative), who is an active witness, about writing a letter of disassociation.
the reason being is that i have not attended the meetings in over a year and it's been 4 years since i have went out in the jw ministry.. i going to try to sum this topic up.
my sister think that i should not da myself because i have not done any immoral act in her thinking.
Amicus,
LOL at your comments re DrivesLikeJehu-
your comments are quite interesting - insightful, to the point, and as above
quite jestful.
Now, let me say that when you first posted, I saw your picture and name - and, got quite a shock - I thought you were a priest (your garb) I knew as a young girl (before becoming a JW) and his name was "Amical" - so, now, in my mind you are 'Father Amical.' Funny what the mind conjures up, eh?
P.S. I liked him too!
hi-i have a question for everyone.
i was just wondering if your life has improved since you've left the org?
for me i left when i was 17, went to college, met a great guy who i live with now and have a ton of great friends.
Waiting,
Dittos-plus to RedhorseWoman's comments. I always look forward to your postings, quotes, comments; and love your spirit to 'get in there' and respond to what's posted (an ability that I lack, but am working on). I have learned much from you and I sincerely thank you.
i am sick of living a lie, yet afraid to change it.
married to a man who refuses to listen, who would rather plug his ears and shout "nooooooo" is taking it's tole.
i am afraid to speak my mind about my doubt, my thoughts, and what i'm learning, as i'm not ready to cross that point of no return.
Dear, Dear MoodyBlue
I wish I were with you right now - to look into your eyes - face-to-face, to hold you and try to comfort you. YOU are the most important issue right now - everything else should be put on the back burner, with the heat turned off!
Please, please, dear MoodyBlue, call and make arrangements for some personal, one-on-one counselling. You need someone outside of all of this to assist you in putting your emotions in the proper perspective. Do not give up on yourself - I 'see' you as an intelligent young woman with a beautiful future - all of us here want that for you. Please, make a call right away - now, please.
With loving concern - Zazu
i recalled something said a while back by an elder during a service meeting a while back.
i beleive it was a local needs part on getting out in service.
basically what he said was this:.
RedHorseWoman
Glad I wasn't the only one; I had no street smarts, and used to use expressions that had others really trying to hide their laughter. Oh, to know then what I know now.......
Lisa, that is really funny - LOL -
did she ever realize what she had done?
this is my first time on this board.
i have been a jw for over 40 years but currently am very discouraged and not very active.
i served at bethel for 4 years, 1963-67, spent most of my time at the kindom farms, s.lansing, ny.
A Big Hello RJB,
"Treated like you've got the plague"
eh? Well, you won't find that here.
I lurked at this site for more than two weeks before I 'joined' in the conservation. My advice to you is
"just jump right in." We are sometimes a little serious and sometimes a little silly - and sometimes a little angry - but we all share and support one another. It's a great place to be and we are glad to have you with us...looking forward to your postings.
Zazu
page 12 of the january 1,1989 wt original magazine paragraph 8 ends with the statement that the apostle paul's missionary activity laid a foundation for a work that would be completed in our 20th century.".
(a subtle prophecy that 'the end' will come by the year 2000 a.d.).
this sentence is changed in the bound volume reprint to read "a work that would be completed in our day.
For the story re JW's and Hitler go to:
http://watchtower.observer.org
On the left side topics list go down to "JW&Hitler" - be sure to check our the "documents" reference under this category - it has a copy of the letter sent to the Nazi regime (attempting to save their butts and property.) Plus other relevent info.
i have been having discussion with my sister (relative), who is an active witness, about writing a letter of disassociation.
the reason being is that i have not attended the meetings in over a year and it's been 4 years since i have went out in the jw ministry.. i going to try to sum this topic up.
my sister think that i should not da myself because i have not done any immoral act in her thinking.
I still miss many of my so-called witness friends - view them as generally good people, but, I also know some who truly aren't - these ones are controlling, manipulative, self-serving people - people who like to stand on others to make themselves feel taller - but that's probably inherent in any colletive group of people.
One, of many personal experiences that stands out in my mind:
I remember when my mother was studyng with the JW's, I thought it was great that I could sit in and ask questions.
Was always treated with courtesy, patience, smiling-face answers.
Was baptized just short of my 16 birthday. Shortly, thereafter, was asked to dog and housesit for a JW couple. They had a copy of Russell's
"Study in the Scriptures" which I read with much interest and questions. When the couple returned home, I guilelessly brought up the book, and very simply questioned the departure in a belief or two." I WILL NEVER FORGET the look on that 'sisters' face - I can only describe it as almost hatred, and malice. Today, over 40 years later, just the recall of the expression she conveyed - makes me SHUDDER all over again. I learned very early on to keep my mouth shut on questions. BTW what she actually said to me was "You have no right to question Jehovah's organization ever....I thought you were more mature than that!" (Age 15?). For the longest time I thought she looked at me with suspicion and dislike. Yes, I am still SHUDDERING.
