I use to think, 'these guys have the truth'. Now...well, Simon said it:
I feel sorry for the people that are unknowingly wasting their lives but who are really genuine people.
...for the average jw as i see them out in door to door work.
i shake my head and think; they just don't know.
or maybe they do, but are in a dilemma similar to thousands if not millions right now.
I use to think, 'these guys have the truth'. Now...well, Simon said it:
I feel sorry for the people that are unknowingly wasting their lives but who are really genuine people.
carmel,.
since you are there, care to let us in on what's the deal?
is it primarlily a religious dispute?
Read up on some Noam Chomsky for an alternate view on things. He's highly critical of the U.S. and has written some quite interesting analyses of the Middle east.
who's demanding?
faith in ourselves has superseded faith in god .
early in the 19th century, disputing the religious dogmatism of the puritans, ralph waldo emerson preached that "it is by yourself without ambassador that god speaks to you.
btw, did anyone see the movie "Contact" with Jodie Foster? What did you think of it?
Yeah, it was kinda neat. I thought it was going to be complete BS, but it was good in the end!
The bible is inexplicable to me. I just take the wise bits like: do to others etc, and just forget the rest. I give up!
simply respond to each question with a yes or no answer (or '?
' if unsure):.
before answering, please see my comments on general/main - "how about a survey?"..
1. Do you believe in God (or that the universe has a Creator)?
????? sort of!
2. Have you ever regularly attended meetings of Jehovah's Witnesses (either baptized or not)?
???? kinda!
3. Do you personally agree with all current teachings and practices of Jehovah's Witnesses?
NAH!
4. Do you believe that the modern-day organization of Jehovah's Witnesses has God's blessing?..
NAH!
5. Do you believe that the modern-day organization of Jehovah's Witnesses is God's ONLY channel of spiritual revelation to mankind?..
NAH!
6. Do you believe that Christianity is the only form of worship approved by God?...
See, I dont know who god is, so i can't say.
7. Do you believe that the Bible (or parts of it) are inspired by God?
Define 'inspired'...If you mean written by him personnally, then i say a big fat NO!
8. Do you believe that any religious book(s) other than the Bible are inspired by God?...
? haven't read any!...i'd say NO!
9. Do you believe that there will be a judgment day from God -- when God will judge living humans and put to death any that are not approved?...
????
10. Do you believe that mankind is living in the Bible's prophesied "last days" and that a judgment day from God will come in the near future?...
??? Not really!
the way i figure it, this is a rather small group, with really a handful of posters.
probably we've all talked ourselves out, reached our own conclusions by now.. personally, i'm so tired of everything at this point.
i'm tired of looking at a million things a million different ways.
You said it Path.Personnally, i dont give damn about religion at the moment.Though i am slowly reading the NT, just seeing if it'll speak to me all.Also read a little of 'The Blind Watchmaker' by Richard Dawkin's, dealing with evolution and stuff. But other than that, i'm just tired of spirituality and all that jazz, i dont care, its on the backburner pretty much.I sure dont care about the WT or some silly 1914 doctrine etc etc........
just been watching the olympics.remember the opening ceremony with all the lights and fire works and stuff.and when all the athletes finally marched into the arena, looking all triumphant and joyful.the first thing i thought of, was all those pic's in wt literature, of that multi-racial great crowd marching on up to mount of jehovah.maybe the opening ceremony is a glimpse of what armageddon is going to be like for all the wt faithful.of course, theres going to a couple billion dead bodies strewn everywhere, and lots of blood, but other than that, i think the opening ceremony captured the moment real well.too bad i aint gunna be there.
all those buzzards and vultures will be picking my carcass bare.... hey, what about the 4 by 100 mens relay for swimming.didn't the u.s. absolutely suck on that one!!!!!!!!.
who thinks marilyn jones is on drugs btw????????...ah!
Just been watching the Olympics.Remember the opening ceremony with all the lights and fire works and stuff.And when all the athletes finally marched into the arena, looking all triumphant and joyful.The first thing i thought of, was all those pic's in WT literature, of that multi-racial great crowd marching on up to Mount of Jehovah.Maybe the opening ceremony is a glimpse of what Armageddon is going to be like for all the WT faithful.Of course, theres going to a couple billion dead bodies strewn everywhere, and lots of blood, but other than that, i think the opening ceremony captured the moment real well.Too bad i aint gunna be there. All those buzzards and vultures will be picking my carcass bare...
Hey, what about the 4 by 100 mens relay for swimming.Didn't the U.S. absolutely suck on that one!!!!!!!!
Who thinks Marilyn Jones is on drugs BTW????????...Ah! but what the hey, they're all on gear anyway!
If you ever get the chance, watch the Judo, it makes no sense at all. Just a bunch of fat guys tugging on each others pyjames
this is another personality online that facinates me.
sort of reminds me of friend.
this was an interesting comment he made over at witnet regarding our all facing an individual accounting before god.. this is a subject which once bothered me as well.
Well,, Path, i dont know squat and i probably should shut me mouth.But i'll say this, Friend use to pi-ss me off when i read his stuff...but now, I think the best hope for the WT is that he or someone like him ends up as the next president!...of the WT that is.
I thought jane was a joke for a second when she said stuff about the UN surrounding KH with tanks LOL...she is out there!
this is another personality online that facinates me.
sort of reminds me of friend.
this was an interesting comment he made over at witnet regarding our all facing an individual accounting before god.. this is a subject which once bothered me as well.
BIG LIE in the letter, though technically it all is really!
"This date of 586 is by no means as well attested as the pivotal date of 539 for the overthrow of babylon!"
Its even better attested too......
Maybe Mermu is right!!!!
" the organization has conveyed the knowledge that has to date been shed upon the Governing Body by holy spirit"
I guess that makes not just the GB a liar, but the holy spirit itself huh!
this is another personality online that facinates me.
sort of reminds me of friend.
this was an interesting comment he made over at witnet regarding our all facing an individual accounting before god.. this is a subject which once bothered me as well.
He wont get a reply Red.You can bet on it.They must have recieved a zillion letters about 1914 and the 70 year prophecy.They didn't listen to Carl.Olof.Jonsson way back when....so i dont think they will be listening to someone who calls themself 'Uncle onion'
this is another personality online that facinates me.
sort of reminds me of friend.
this was an interesting comment he made over at witnet regarding our all facing an individual accounting before god.. this is a subject which once bothered me as well.
Sis comfort:
I remember a District Overseer, Bro. Heard, say once in a talk, "If you "feel" an "oppressive weight" on you from day to day, it's because Satan's demons are THICK in the air around us, literally! And we're ALL going to be affected by this fact. More so that EVER in man's history!
Now this is the kind of stuff thats entertaining.Bring back the freaks i say!
I dont know whats with Robbie either...I like being called a 'Worldling'