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  IVE GOT A FUNNY FEELING

  by josephus in

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  i thought that would get your attention.. i dont know if im being perverse here, but i seem to want one last confrontation with the jws.. i am out a good while now.

  long enough to stop getting hellos on the street.

  what those scumbags did to me before in thier meetings (old h20ers may remember) i still want to go at them again.. i was so depressed about things i really thought about suicide.

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  zerubberballz

  josephus,

  i can relate to what you say even though the sudden way i left watchtower world never left me with much personal anger.

  just a practical suggestion - I too work alone and for many years had a skylight manufacturing and installation round. One thing that helped me tremendously was having cups of tea in the homes of strangers. For years I spilled my guts about my weird life and listened to peoples personal stories. I soon went from the cult isolation of seeing people as basically bad to knowing them as, in the most part, well intentioned and honourable.

  Sounds to me like you need about 200 gallons of tea and a few cwt of biscuits with a thousand or so people .. one at a time. I hope the people you do work for offer you a brew now and then? If so say yes and talk about your life with strangers it's the most wonderful soul releasing thing for folk like us.

  warm regards, unclebruce, who's had grown men cry on his shoulders more than once.

  PS: It's the name 'josephus' that gets our attention ya noong!
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  Dearest "Celtic"... Having "Jesu...

  by AGuest in

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  may you have peace!.

  i have been away for awhile (my apologies to my dear ones here... but my "life" called for a moment), and was directed to return today, that there was someone 'thirsting'.

  i have been granted leave by my lord to answer your question, if you will permit me.

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  zerubberballz

  g'day sweet woman! ;)

  mind if i butt in and play with ya?

  ===(1) Remain in union, by eating his flesh and drinking his blood===

  OK. I'm cool with the ancient canibal feast.

  ===(2) Love one another, including your enemies===
  ===(3) Judge and condemn no one===
  ===(4) Forgive and release ALL who trangress, whether against you or another===
  ===(5) Become servants of one another, consider all others superior to you, just as he consider HIS disciples superior to him===

  Nice idealistic daydream Shelby but I live in the real world most of the time. Nup, can't love everybody that just wouldn't be right and I certainly wouldn't want to put others above me that'd be madness. Not people who rape young girls and leave 'em to slowly painfully die, squirming around with thier guts staining the forest floor red. Sorry Shelby but it's not my place to forgive such turds.

  Judge them? I'd gladly execute them and a large part of the prison population.

  ===(6) Ask for and receive holy spirit===

  been there, done that. (I got more spirit in me than's good for a man .. not all of it holy)

  ===(7) "Soften" your heart so that the Law... of LOVE... may be "written" thereon===

  been there done that. (got more love in me than's good for a humble working man.)

  ===(8) Exercise FAITH... and LISTEN TO HIS VOICE... so that when he SPEAKS... you hear... and obey.===

  yeah well, it takes a long time to build trust so this Jar Medishwasha bloke better start talking sense to me real soon .. he's got everything to gain and i've got nuth'n ta lose ... whoo hoo I have the power forever and ever .. ah men!!! heee heee

  CHEERS! skunclbutt.

  PS: hope my responces aren't too predictable me ol' cyber wify
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  When The Society Bashed JFK.

  by Englishman in

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  back in the 60's, when i was a wee laddie round about fred halls age, the wtbts started to pee their pants at the thought of a roman catholic becoming president of the usa.. we had lots of talks and prayers about how our american brothers would be persecuted if jfk were elected and a series of anti - catholic articles started to appear in the magazines.. there was an awful lot of hot air about this being a "sign" of something or other, can anyone recall any of this or throw some light on the subject?.

  englishman.. nostalgia isn't what it used to be....

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  zerubberballz

  Geez you're old englishmun! If you remmember the 6o's you weren't really there man.

  Actually, what stuck me, was all the anti-union talk and commie bashing. Even in the early '80's we were told the King of the North was communist and his influence was washing through our territory in the form of leftists and union men. Of course we all know now what a load of bollocks that was.

  Living in Australia this didn't wash with a lot of us loyal dubs. Australia has a proud history of unionism and organised labour shaped us. Unlike America which reverts back to its conservatism in times of crisis, we use labour as the comforting touchstone of our identity and egalitarianism is our overiding religion.

  The WBTS give the USA a bad name in many ways even amoungst thier own zombified flunkies.

  We are amused that in the US the democrats are called leftist to most Australians the democrat donkey is more like our right wing.

  Up the workers! unclebruce.
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  Fasting

  by Celtic in

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  any of you fasted before and if so, for how long and the effects of the experience upon the mind?.

  maybe i must eat more too.. peace.

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  alienone,

  If only it were so. I've just lost over 50 pounds and feel hornier than ever. The one good effect of diabetes tablets is seeing the weight go ... After 15 years at weighing around 15 stone i'm 12 and dropping... whooo hoo. I checked the scales in kmart last night for the first time in years.

  unclebruce

  PS: You may well be right about fasting causing a loss of libido, i just wanted to bragg. (I've been experimenting lately with the theory about you not being able to feel pain in two places at the same time .. bite you finger and stomp on a toe at the same time and see if they both hurt.. ouch ooo .. mmm)
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  Fasting

  by Celtic in

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  any of you fasted before and if so, for how long and the effects of the experience upon the mind?.

  maybe i must eat more too.. peace.

  celtic

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  Hey Celtic,

  Great idea - fast for 3 days and you might see the baby jesus. I know some Indonesian Pentecostals who swear by it. (they see angels but you never know your luck in the big within)

  goodluck, unclebruce.

  PS: I'm interested in learning meditation myself.
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  Billions of wasted lives

  by expatbrit in

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  the thread started by mr moe http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=15635&site=3 has occupied my thoughts for a considerable while today.

  fortunately, i'm off sick, so have the luxury of some free time!.

  for some reason, that subject really got to me.

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  Rex,

  Did you read my articles on Paul a while back? They hit the deck with little christian responce apart from a couple having thier faith shaken (something that scared me)

  Of course the Gospels line up with Paul. Mark, Luke and John were virtually in Pauls employ. Matthew i'm not so sure about but believe he headed north as well. You show little understanding about the life and times of Jesus the Jew.

  Please read a good book like Baigent and Leighs "the Messianic Legacy".

  Paul was astute enough to resurect Jesus, reshape his image with a large dose of mythraism, matching the Greek gods miracle for miracle, supernatural wonder for supernatural wonder, accomplishing just what his original plan was - destroy Jesus Nazarites influence in the Jewish diaspora throughout the Roman empire. (that didn't stop the ongoing civil war but meant no relief for the essenes holding out along the dead sea at places like Masada)

  cheers, unc who doesn't believe Hercules came back, but does believe Paul when he admited making it all up. (early in his letter to the Corinthians where he says he is only interested in Jesus raised as christ/buddha/hercules/kristna/ whatever ;)
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  Billions of wasted lives

  by expatbrit in

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  the thread started by mr moe http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=15635&site=3 has occupied my thoughts for a considerable while today.

  fortunately, i'm off sick, so have the luxury of some free time!.

  for some reason, that subject really got to me.

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  unclepenn,

  I read your original post too quick - obviously real samaritans amoungst JWs are rare and thier behaviour is not encouraged.

  As for Paul, what I said is true. In that one little sentence I condensed down the entire issue of christianities ongoing fraud. If you think i was being flipant or without a mountain of evidence to back up what i say you're sorely mistaken. Most public libraries have books about the life and times of judeo/christian thought. I have written long boring articles about this subject but christians either have a paulian epithany or disappear up thier own dogma quicker than a bloke can cry out 'oh lord why have you foresaken me'.

  Nothing personal but I can't help but wonder what you're afraid of. Closed mind never won the heart of fair argument. True history is only hidden from those too lazy or psycologically impared to look.

  unclebruce
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  Very Famous People That Are / Were JW's?

  by Celtic in

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  geri hallowell from the spice girls?

  michael jackson & family?

  one of the presidents wives?

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  Abel the sheep slayer
  Moses the gypo stabber
  Sampson the psyco killer
  David the giant dropper
  John the locust cruncher
  Jesus the merchant puncher
  Babylon the slut
  Russell the habedasherer
  Rutherford the Judge
  Matthew the window cleaner.

  Bruce the wanker?

  PS: good hobby you got there Celtic, i was once so bored witless by a public speaker i tried adding up every letter in genesis .. that got so boring i went back to daydreaming about sex.

  edit: ... hang on .. i think i got one .. what about that Rank guy who belts the gong before the movie starts ... i'm sure he was a brother.
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  Billions of wasted lives

  by expatbrit in

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  the thread started by mr moe http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=15635&site=3 has occupied my thoughts for a considerable while today.

  fortunately, i'm off sick, so have the luxury of some free time!.

  for some reason, that subject really got to me.

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  zerubberballz

  Jesus unclepenn,

  you're not ... a christian! ...yaaarrrk! Why do you born again jehovahites think that exjws just ditch jesus out with the bethelite bathwater?

  I have found very few exjws do that. Most look long and hard into the true origins of Judeo/christian religion before seeing Paul for the scheming anti-jesus Roman he truly was.

  unclebruce

  Mohammed- 'My teachings lead to the attainment of truth'
  Buddha- 'The truth has been revealed to me'
  Jesus- 'I am the truth'
  Lao tzu- 'be'
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  Billions of wasted lives

  by expatbrit in

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  the thread started by mr moe http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=15635&site=3 has occupied my thoughts for a considerable while today.

  fortunately, i'm off sick, so have the luxury of some free time!.

  for some reason, that subject really got to me.

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  zerubberballz

  g'day expat,

  here, give me those glasses for a sec will ya .. snatch .. :) .. wow .. now i see the spiritual dimension we've so far failed to mention ..

  I too see many heavy hearts toiling in human misery and unending pain. Especially Pakistanis sold into Saudi Arabian slavery and Indians trapped by caste and such but, being an eternal optomist, i don't see even thier lives as wasted any more than i see the jovial Australians who died in WW1 as such. I see them released at death to fly back from whence they came or something. I'm not denying that children born without brains or functioning bodies have a pityful existance and it may have been better if nature never had them arrive here in the first place but for the vast majority of us life has enough good going for it to excuse a lot of pain.

  unclebruce who values life and doesn't believe in death of spirit.

  Death is not the end

  When you're sad and when you're lonely
  And you haven't got a friend
  Just remember that death is not the end

  And all that you held sacred
  Falls down and does not mend
  Just remember that death is not the end
  
  When you're standing on the crossroads
  That you cannot comprehend
  Just remember that death is not the end

  And all your dreams have vanished
  And you don't know what's up the bend
  Just remember that death is not the end
  
  When the storm clouds gather round you
  And heavy rains descend
  Just remember that death is not the end

  And there's no-one there to comfort you
  With a helping hand to lend
  Just remember that death is not the end

  For the tree of life is growing
  Where the spirit never dies
  And the bright light of salvation
  Up in dark and empty skies
  When the cities are on fire
  With the burning flesh of men
  Just remember that death is not the end

  When you search in vain to find
  Some law-abiding citizen
  Just remember that death is not the end

  Nick Cave. Murder Ballads