Posts by zerubberballz

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Hi my names josephus, and i am an apostate.

by josephus in

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well this is the day.. i mentioned to my mum that i read a good book recently about dates, and cronology.. she blew up and told me i was just trying to read anything that attempts to disprove jws.. apparently i am like those apostates, and people didnt want to talk to my because of it.. "this is the truth", she said.. well i am now an apostate.

it doesnt feel as bad as i thought it would.. josephus

zerubberballz

G'day Trevor,

Nice to meet you. Yes, sad isn't it. The Americans led the way in killing thier own God when they removed the mystic in thier religions by trying to rationalize the incomprehensible nature of God who is supposed to exist beyond our space and time.

I don't believe in a biblical God but shared a coffee last week with a christian posting here called ozziepost. He made the point about God being beyond our space and time and it really makes for refreshing thought.

cheers, unclebruce.

WIZ: ==="AAAAAAAAnnnnnnnDDDDDDd whyyyyyYYYYYYYyyyyyyy did God choose the faithful and discrete slaAAAAAAAAaaaavvvvvvvVVVVVVVve?" -more like the discredited slave. He probably tried taking over heaven when he got there. The guy had all the advice on sex, but never even used his penis, well 'cept to piss with. -on our heads!===

Hillarious! and ooooooOOOOOOO sooooooo true.
You do great post.

regards, unclebruce

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Any thoughts on this quote from the Bible?

by siegswife in

in luke 13:20,21 it says: "and again he said: 'with what shall i compare the kingdom of god?

it is like leaven, which a woman took and his in three large measures of flour until the whole mass was fermented.".

i've been thinking about this.

zerubberballz

Let's see now chaps, we can do better than this .. The biblical Kingdom of God is like a loaf of bread, it smelt good as a fresh idea but after a while the maggots got in and only desperate dogs would eat it. (hey go easy you merry christian bablenuts .. i could'a said your kingdom of God is like a shit sandwich but without the bread)

Let God speak for herself I say .. or better still stay in the kitchen and let me get on with life ;)

unclebruce (short on recipies for universal governancy boys)

PS: OK, OK, I'll be serious .. Nice points all, we can play "this is what Luke really meant" till the cows come home .. but without understanding or even reference to historical context you're just playing with yourselves. Here's the historic truth in a nutshell - These words were attributed to Jesus by Paul via Luke yes? Pauls agenda was to turn the Jewish diaspora against Jesus Nazarites and thus strengthen the Roman/Pharisee hold on the religious/political affairs of Palestine yes? Would you not call that process of myth/Christ making employed by Paul throughout the Greek speaking world a levening? Simple eh? (but way over the heads of our resident bible scholars and history bluffs no doubt. lol)

schools out .. off you go .. enough god bothering for today .. geez, how do you people hold a straight face? (i guess not being able to sleep at night does that to fundamental jesusfreaks and biblenutters ;)

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Hi my names josephus, and i am an apostate.

by josephus in

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well this is the day.. i mentioned to my mum that i read a good book recently about dates, and cronology.. she blew up and told me i was just trying to read anything that attempts to disprove jws.. apparently i am like those apostates, and people didnt want to talk to my because of it.. "this is the truth", she said.. well i am now an apostate.

it doesnt feel as bad as i thought it would.. josephus

zerubberballz

G'day TS,

So what's your point?

==='Cause I don't remember any mention of "1914" in Paul's gospel, which he elucidated at 1 Cor 15:1-4 and 2 Tim 2:8.===

Paul was just plain anti-jesus (as opposed to anti-christ .. at least it suited his anti-nazarine agenda to build the Christ myth around the latest anti-rome, jewish matyr) Paul? hmph! .. that bronze age murderer didn't even know his BC from his AD.

===However I do remember Paul saying that anyone preaching a gospel different from his would be "eternally condemned". (Gal 1:8)===

Yep, see above lol. (this edict was primarily directed against Jesus followers of course and the disciples of Jesus brother James)

unclebruce, scattering 2 cents worth of history seed on this parched and rocky ground lol.

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NEWFLASH!!!! I'm Korah!!! (news to me at least)

by ashitaka in

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my father called me last nite telling me that i was korah.

always nice to start off a conversation with.

then for an hour we tried convincing each other we were right.

zerubberballz

Congratulations ashitika,

you've just entered a new relationship with your father. my father in law and other jw friends treat me with surprising cander now they know i'm not a watchtower stooge. They even tell me things i'd rather not know about thier personal lives and desires etc (like now i'm not a jw i have no moral restraint .. it ain't true i tell ya! I still wouldn't rape Kent Steinhaug with a barge pole even if he asked me nicely and promised chocolate ;)

Seriously ashi, this could be the start of something new between you and the old boy, i'm not saying he'll ever see sense or change his ways, but by comming out you've changed the inter-personal dynamics and there may be more surprises in store.

best wishes unclebruce

PS: My jw mother and sisters use me as a father confessor .. i guess spending all that time in the kingdom hall bottling up factory means they need to pop a cork with someone.. lol.

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Hi my names josephus, and i am an apostate.

by josephus in

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friends

well this is the day.. i mentioned to my mum that i read a good book recently about dates, and cronology.. she blew up and told me i was just trying to read anything that attempts to disprove jws.. apparently i am like those apostates, and people didnt want to talk to my because of it.. "this is the truth", she said.. well i am now an apostate.

it doesnt feel as bad as i thought it would.. josephus

zerubberballz

Thankx outlaw,

yeah the beach really messes with yer suit and i used to hate getting sand in my bible .. there's something about JW's and the ocean .. maybe all those stories of Noah getting swallowed by a whale and Jesus walking out to save him and stuff ..

Merry Christmas!

Outlaw advised YoYoMama: "walk west till yer hat floats!" I guess that's an invite to the beach .. ROTFLMBathersOff!

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Hi my names josephus, and i am an apostate.

by josephus in

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friends

well this is the day.. i mentioned to my mum that i read a good book recently about dates, and cronology.. she blew up and told me i was just trying to read anything that attempts to disprove jws.. apparently i am like those apostates, and people didnt want to talk to my because of it.. "this is the truth", she said.. well i am now an apostate.

it doesnt feel as bad as i thought it would.. josephus

zerubberballz

Hey YOYoMama, but you were only a kid in 1975 (if my intuition is right)

Did you help spread the 'goodnews' series of tracts? The final warning .. CO's fired us with speculation that the last one would just say something like Ha Ha you're dead! .. Did you cancel regular magazine routes if they refused a 6 month truth book/bible study? (like that didn't confuse a householder or 100,000 lol) Did you ever cancel bible studies that were taking too long to reach baptism? (the best thing for them really but i remmember several householders distraught at the thought of being left to thier fate when Jehovah's big crack came calling. lol)

Pionneering my youth away in the early 70's was great fun at the time but looking back was just silly. (and embarrassing to remmember) but living and breathing that way in 2001 is just plain ridiculous. YoYo, you gotta spend more time down the beach .. the one place few JW's go

Sure Catholics teach the Trinity, the whole world has loopy ideas about religion. A polish friend of mine went into a two hour non-stop anti-catholic anti-religion discourse yesterday .. He's very entertaining and knowledgable about the ways of ignorant sods he calls 'the black masses'. (that is most of the worlds population seduced into thinking thier politics and religion are doing them any good)

Jehovah's Witnesses are just another stupid little american cult .. a no thought required, drive through, would you like to fry with that?, religion if ever there was one.

unclebruce who ain't a preacher and therefore don't need to prove a thing

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PUT YOUR NAMES HERE

by Rex B13 in

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hi gang,.

man, what a brouhaha we have going on now, eh?

i wonder if all could please reply to this post with your list of log-on names.

zerubberballz

G'day Worldly Wex,

What's goi'n on? .. you turning this place into a confessional? OK..

I first posted as unclebruce on h20 and zerubberballz on dejavu.

Posting around different boards I had/have different names, most of which i can't remmember, including KingdomHallogram, Elderkiller, Jesarse, Jehasaphat, Nimblerod etc.. While i posted as [email protected] some rouge fundy preachers baptised me and born me again as lifesbeerandcircusfree, then i had an epithany on that and became Rev.Fredrick.Hollingworth of Landover Baptist where Jesus takes us to his personal heaven and satisfies our every desire (while the rest of you fundy backsliders fry in the deepest pit of Hell!) .. um who else..

When Simon banned 'unclebruce' here i registered zerubberballz. When he was barred i registired wallaby jack but most people know me as unclebruce, unc, UNK, skunklebruce or just plain Tina.

cheers, Odysseus Watermelon Bicyclepump O'Brien. (not my real name ;)

"Your God hung his own son up like a side of beef .. what hope have I got?" Marque De Sarde - said while spitting on his Jailer/priests bible. (well in the film 'Quills' anyway ;)

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They lost! :(

by ozziepost in

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uruguay 3 australia 0

zerubberballz

G'day ozzie,

.. thought they would - Uruguay have always been awsome and beaten the arse off other South American teams for a very long time.

give 'em a real football and send 'em to Essendon I say! lol.

uncle'aussie rules'bruce..

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modern day prophets

by Julie in

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lately i have seen it pointed out that the bible is indeed inspired, if only the parts that contain prophecy (that of course have "come true").

this compelled me to make the comment that anyone with any knowledge of the ways of humankind can be a pretty accurate prophet.. prophecy, in one form or another, has been a necessary skill for all sorts of people throughout the ages.

anyone who needed to come up with a strategy needed to be an accurate prophet.

zerubberballz

Here is where we disagree. Prophecy in a Biblical sense is under much stricter rules than everyday prediction by good planning. Think about this: How in the world could a work of this nature, 66 books and many authors, that meshes so well, ever be put together without inspiration? Did you know that for Jesus to have fullfilled just nine of the 258 prophecies He did fullfill, the odds are comparable to filling the state of Texas with silver dollar coins, writing your name on one and having someone toss it out in the midst of these, then actually finding it with one try?

ooo oo rex, can i answer this one? lol . It's very simple Rex. The gospel writers wrote their accounts under the influence of Paul, long after Jesus was dead. (but i think i might have told ya that already ;)

unclebruce

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Julie, well reasoned article, thankyou. uncleprophet

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My Thanksgiving

by wasasister in

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ginny t, ginny's son, my daughter, me...just finished over-eating, as is the tradition in this country.

we're enjoying a glass of chardonnay, sitting in front of a fireplace, plunking tunes on a grand piano, and looking out at puget sound.

ginny says it reminds her of the west coast of norway.

zerubberballz

Thankyou for sharing wassa,

In just a few short sentences, you made thanksgiving overlooking Pugent Sound the best place on earth to be the other night. I haven't fallen off the planet .. that's not till Monday and I'll be writing as soon as I'm back home.

warmest regards, unclebruce

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Yadirf .. be thankfull you weren't on the menu ya turkey!

Daniel ... "my brother you are more loved than me" Elton John.