Posts by czarofmischief

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you know's comments

by czarofmischief in

<p>i jsut read over some comments by someone named you know.

he made a convincing case that the wt is going to suffer judgement for what they have done.

i still believe in jehovah, but not in the wt, and this makes sense to me.

I read some comments somewhere by a guy who was called You Know. He claimed that the prophecy in Isaiah and elsewhere about smiting the evildoers who rule over God's People. Essentially, Jehovah is coming to clean house, and thus, it will be hard times for all JW's.

So, what I am thinking is, if our former brothers (since many of us are diffed or DA) are facing trials and persecutions, shouldn't those of us who still view ourselves as good, Godfearing people reach out and protect them as we are able to? For instance, when the Babylonians invaded Israel, God condemned the Edomites for betraying and fighting against their relatives the Israelites. So, we should put aside our resentments and such and try to protect our former families.

Hm,

CZAR

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Bible: Women are Inferior

by JosephAlward in

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no teaching in the bible is clearer and more consistent than the one which holds women to be inferior to men.

below i show that it is taught that the woman was created from man, for man, that man--not woman--is the glory of god, and that women are not allowed to teach or control man because the woman, not the man, is the one who was deceived by the serpent.

" (1 corinthians 11:2-9) "for a man...is the image and glory of god: but the woman is the glory of the man.

czarofmischief

I work with a ton of women.

I hate it.

They are slow, mean, and vicious.

They like to crush men and hold them back. They also snipe and backbite each other.

I really think women aren't as clever as men. The modern fallacy of complete equality is nonsense. Men are stronger, smarter, easier-going, and better at math, art, music, and writing.

JT

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you know's comments

by czarofmischief in

<p>i jsut read over some comments by someone named you know.

he made a convincing case that the wt is going to suffer judgement for what they have done.

i still believe in jehovah, but not in the wt, and this makes sense to me.

czarofmischief

<P>I jsut read over some comments by someone named you know.

He made a convincing case that the WT is going to suffer judgement for what they have done.

I still believe in Jehovah, but not in the WT, and this makes sense to me. So if our former brothers are being driven from house and home, shouldn't we give them shelter?

didn't God condemn the Edomites for turning the Israelites in to the Babylonians

after the invasion? Even from a purely secular standpoint, sheltering them would be the right thing to do

 - regardless of their beliefs, nobody should have to suffer imprisonment or beatings just for their religion.

Sometimes we have to do what's right no matter the cost.

Comments?

czar

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Did we take nothing good from the JW's?

by kenpodragon in

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recently on another location online, someone told me my thoughts sound like something from a watchtower or awake.

they said, i come off in the same manner and use illustrations to speak.

it was also mentioned that i come off as an elder at times, and sound very authoritarian in my manner.

czarofmischief

I took away many good things:

Reading the Bible is useful - I don't believe most of it, but it is the literary foundation of Western civilization.

The emphasis on family is good, even though some of the ideas are parochial, but loyalty to the unit is a good concept.

Broad spectrum of educational topics.

JT

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A complex question who of you knows the answer?

by MARTINLEYSHON in

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if baptism washes away your sins, as taught by jws, what prevents a disfellowshiped person who has moved to a new area and is not known in that area in attending meetings as an interested person and getting baptised within 6 months.. has anyone ever done that?

if so can the person be disfellowshipped a second time?

what would be his status.

czarofmischief

A tricky situation, but the real question is this:

Who are you trying to fool? If you believe this is God's Org and that's why you want back in, then do you really think you'll be able to fool God?

If this is just a human org, then yes, you probably could pull some kind of stunt like that, but why go to all that trouble to join a human org that is really retentive, stupid, and boring. It'd be more fun to join the boy scouts, at least they are allowed to play with guns.

More importantly, if this is just a human org, and it is claiming to be God's org, joining it might incur the wrath of the almighty who hates to be misrepresented. Consider yourself freed by the underserved kindness of God. Now go have a threesome.

CZAR

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JEHOVAH'S WITNESS TYPES

by Deli King in

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how many of the following types did you have in your home cong.?

the leader(s).

(this is the only one not likely to be found in the local congregation, at least not for long.

czarofmischief

Not to mention the Kramer Hovah.

The odd one of the bunch, usually "artistic" and therefore probably a Sodomite. Gives good talks when he isn't being restricted due to public reproof. Everything is clean cut and mostly conservative, except for telltale signs like the Harley Davidson Bookbag, which give away the lurking insanity that eventually leads to such outlandish displays like being in a worldly theater show. Eventually rejects Christian morality and decides that Paul was in love with Timothy. soemtimes violent, this type is the most likely to find a constructive outlet for the hurt of his eventual disfellowshipping.

Oddly enough, this type is less likely to become consumed with materialism, due to the very artistic nature that the stifled community tries to suppress.

CZAR

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Why so much mental illness among JW's?

by cherjcd in

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i have just added an audio tape on mental illness among jehovah's witnesses by jerry bergman.

http://www.jwinfoline.com/page/audio_tapes_of_month.htm.

it is interesting to hear the reasons why jehovah's witnesses have a much higher rate of mental illness than the normal population.

czarofmischief

I concur. I have bipolar disorder and my mood swings would lead me to believe that my "bad" thoughts were caused by demonic possession - and that I was chosen by the Devil Himself to destroy all religion! Ha! I just wound up destroying my own! Of course, the downswing would lead me to alcoholic despair and suicidal gestures.

Of course, I do have to thank the society for one thing. Their religion has provoked more intersting conversation than anything out of Hollywood. Could be because its more creative.

CZAR

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Should I have a Christmas tree?

by scuba99 in

hi folks,.

i'm rather new here, only posted a couple of times.

although i have been visiting the site daily for a good 2 months now.

czarofmischief

I dunno if anyone ever read any Terry Pratchett, but if you read his book Hogfather he makes a good point about the origin of the winter festivals:

It's dark and depressing. Let's make some noise and dance and drink too much and hopefully the sun will come back tomorrow. The rest is just window dressing. And phalluses of course. Gotta love those phalli.

CZAR

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Some Elders Have Had Mistress'

by wednesday in

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being in the org for a very long time i have seen people do all kinds of things .

one thing that i have never really seen discussed is how common it is for an elder to have a mistress in the background.

oh he may not be actually sleeping with her, but i personally for over 20 years was a second "wife "to an elder.

czarofmischief

Let's be honest here:

ALL men like to have more than one wife. It's natural. Chimps do it. Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob did it. Solomon went crazy for the sweet stuff.

SEX is one thing. MARRIAGE is about friendship. People can be married, be friends, and not really have sex and love each other and their kids and live together and be the Cleavers.

But Men will always need more than one woman for sex and friendship. How would you feel if your best friend demanded that you spend time only with her and ignore all your other friends? Its pretty psychotic to demand that, and yet this standard of "monogamy" imposes just that demand.

A man who actually LEAVES his wife is betraying his best friend. A woman who demands a man have sex only with her, and just suppress his needs when she is having her time, or is cranky, or is just not "in the mood" is being selfish and short-sighted.

CZAR

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What reason is there to live???

by songmistress in

this is a for real question, not just hypothetical.

some of you are aware that i am going through a very rough time.

i have been diagnosed with chronic major depression, probably from childhood.

czarofmischief

Here's the deal, sweetie!

Life drops some cards on your table - and you've been dealt a rather nasty Joker called the WTBTS. Makes you want to toss in your whole hand and forfeit your ante. Now you can't beat the dealer, cause you're going to lose out in the end, but you can give the dealer a hell of a run for his money by dropping that Joker right off the bat.

I'm bipolar, and labored for years under the delusion that God was staring like a burning sun into the back of my head at every thought I ever had. Guess what? The Society LIES!!! They aren't just wrong, or misguided, or stupid, they LIE maliciously to control you and feed their egos at the swelling ranks of drones that prove to themselves that they really ARE going to heaven. If you need proof of that, well, that's another forum.

So, I've tried suicide and all that jazz, but you know what? I like to live. It's fun. GOD MADE IT THAT WAY! Eden means pleasure, he wants his humans to have fun! 24/7! Jesus drank, spent a lot of time with prostitutes, got into fights, defied authority, hung out with low-class people, and basically was everything that the Old Fogies are terrified of.

So my practical suggestion to you is a threesome. And when you get over all that agonizing guilt and God hasn't smote you, and you realize you kind of liked it, then maybe you'll be ready to live a little. Build! Create! Make a better world, don't just sit around and pray for one!

Get mind numbingly drunk and try playing darts. Write a poem about your hangover the next morning. Get it published. Marry your publisher. Live happily ever after.

I could go on, and fully intend to for a long, long time.

CZAR