Hey shera,
Had my own experience with the lousy bastid elder shite-mongers. Whatever.
Hey gsark, quit backing away like that!
CZAR
and for those reasons, coj wanted in the beginning, to stay with the organization, just like bill bowens.
that is all carl wanted.
yes, as members of the governing body, they knew full well, exactly what carl's writings meant.
Hey shera,
Had my own experience with the lousy bastid elder shite-mongers. Whatever.
Hey gsark, quit backing away like that!
CZAR
my son has an older friend who is 23 years old.
we call him primo.
he lives out here in the landing(as we call it).
So, Lilacs, you haven't responded to my lewd suggestion...
CZAR
and for those reasons, coj wanted in the beginning, to stay with the organization, just like bill bowens.
that is all carl wanted.
yes, as members of the governing body, they knew full well, exactly what carl's writings meant.
czar,: Anyway, gsark erased the posting I was responding to because I barked at his lack of solid evidence.
Her.
Farkel
I stand corrected.
czar
and for those reasons, coj wanted in the beginning, to stay with the organization, just like bill bowens.
that is all carl wanted.
yes, as members of the governing body, they knew full well, exactly what carl's writings meant.
Sorry about that, shera. Didn't mean to trivialize your trauma.
Anyway, gsark erased the posting I was responding to because I barked at his lack of solid evidence.
CZAR
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hmm,i dont how too start off,but ill try,so im 16 yrs old,im being raised as a jw,and it is hard as hell,sometimes i think,if this is the right religion arent you suppose to be happy??
?well i really cant do anything about that because my parents say no way they will let me go in "the world" nonsense!so im stuck here ,lonely,depressed,and confused,sometimes i wish id die,but i know that wont help nothing.i want out of this org so bad,but i cant do nothing about it.there always telling me dont let satan and the bad asscioates influence you!im sick of that.all my friends well i shold say my ex friends they never helped me,my as they say:worldy friends did.. also i really really like this guy,i know he like me but he is worldy and i wish so badly i could date him,(i hate the term worldy,so stupid)my parents seriously will not give me space and they are stuck up my @ss.please if u have any commets i would sincerly appriciate it:) laura
Go to college. Don't get married or pregnant until later. Keep your options open. Your 16 year old crush is a big feeling, I know, but really, when you get away from home, your feelings can be developed without ruining yourself.
When you go to college, LIVE ON CAMPUS and explore the world through books, R-rated movies, and the Internet.
Be smart and take care of yourself. The org tells you that they will take care of you. They won't. They'll use you up then toss you aside. The only person you are responsible to is God himself, and what burden does he lay upon us but to be honest and upright and humble before Him?
Genuinely explore it all, including other religions (but don't jump into another cult).
College could be your big chance. It was mine.
CZAR
i remember the good old days back in the 80's, when i was but a tiny tot, and folks used to stand outside the convention with megaphones and shout and try to hand out apostate literature.. now that i'm older, it sounds like fun.
anybody do that kind of thing these days?.
czar
. I only harrass board posters who say stupid stuff!
It's like being back in college. I appreciate your candor and insistence on accuracy, precision, and well-reasoned argumentation. Too many people feel that freethinking means easy thinking, or that free speech can be sloppy. Keep it up Farkel, but if I can toss it back at you, I won't hold back.
Thanks for the insight, LB. I'm not sure how to handle my rage against the org, or how desperate I am to set my former brothers free. maybe I could write a leaflet or something, although I'm sure that's all been done. I need to express this somehow, constructively.
CZAR
all right, obviously i'm a little new here so bear with me.
just out of curiosity, has anyone here that was raised as a jay-dub felt resentment or anger or animosity toward thier parents?
i wanted nothing to do with the cult even at a fairly early age, but would a person feel that way if they had believed as a teen?
So I'm a recent deportee from the parental unit.
NO resentment, only love. They raised me with discipline and caring and when I was old enough to live my own life, they respected my right to make my own decisions and they have never shunned me the way the Phwuknads in Brooklyn wanted them to.
They taught me to forgive, and the way my dad mellowed over the years taught me that all things change, including our viewpoints. He used to be ultra-elder, on HLC's and stuff, but now he is a tired, depressed old man who knows the truth about the org, but he just stays in for the company. Ah, I love the guy.
CZAR
i remember the good old days back in the 80's, when i was but a tiny tot, and folks used to stand outside the convention with megaphones and shout and try to hand out apostate literature.. now that i'm older, it sounds like fun.
anybody do that kind of thing these days?.
czar
I remember the good old days back in the 80's, when I was but a tiny tot, and folks used to stand outside the convention with megaphones and shout and try to hand out apostate literature.
Now that I'm older, it sounds like fun. Anybody do that kind of thing these days?
CZAR
...the swede.
ya'll settle down now, y'hear?.
time flies, and some give all, but keep it up and your going to break some hearts; some achy breaky hearts, dammit.
No! Not the irresponsible usage of country-pop!
Arrgghh! I'm physically ill! Curse you, sixofnine, currrrrsssse yyoouuu....
CZAR
and for those reasons, coj wanted in the beginning, to stay with the organization, just like bill bowens.
that is all carl wanted.
yes, as members of the governing body, they knew full well, exactly what carl's writings meant.
Children beaten raped and murdered? I don't know, gsark, how many? As Farkel once kindly pointed out to me, making an allegation without proof or even a good statistic to back it up results in a specious posting.
Women disfellowshipped for being raped? Don't know. Again, gsark, how many?
A bloody intraorganizational war? The deal of the century? I mean, if this unsubstantiated allegation you've made is true, it still doesn't equal Chamberlain giving away the Sudentland.
Relax Gsark. Ease up on the hyperbole.
CZAR