"In former-communist countries like Poland we have special vocab for such arrangements. This one is a "kombinat" - a large self-sustainable totalitarian factory complex whose workers get paid with the money produced by the factory. And they can only spend this money at the factory store. "
How true, Pole!
It made me think about how Amway business works: it's so hard to fulfill their quotas that "employees" have to buy the products themselves.
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Pioneerers can count up to 25 hours for taking special language
by DaCheech inone of the latest announcement letters from the wts is that people should attend special.
classes setup for the purpose of preaching to foreign language communities.
these special classes are.
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The Young Witness Exodus Continues
by metatron ini just found out that , on my wife's side of the family, the last witness kid has given up!.
he was the very last one in that half of our extended witness family.
ten years ago, i never would have.
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"If there is an increase then Jehovah is 'speeding things along in his due time'. If things are dropping off like they are, all of a sudden its ' the love of the greater number' 'cooling off'. They have all there mis-quotes all nicely arranged to keep everyone locked in."
The other day I got a message from a confused JW, and what I said to him was similar to what you said above:
When the number are up, "Jehovah is blessing the organization"; when numbers are down, then "Jehovah is allowing a cleasing of his people to take place; wasn't this prophesied?".
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The Watchtower & the cigarette company
by expatbrit ini: some relevant quotes from watchtower publications
1: the position of the watchtower as regards smoking
*** jv 181 13 recognized by our conduct ***.
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Neo,
what an excellent job you did once again by hosting these scans!
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Just got back from the 2004-2005 circuit assembly here are a few thoughts.
by PaNiCAtTaCk inupon arriving i ran into lots of old friends and really enjoyed seeing everyone and visiting.
they dont know that im currently struggling with doubts about the organization and they think that im the same old zealous brother.
i couldnt help but feel a sence of guilt visiting with them about our current number of publishers and how many we had pioneering ect.
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Kingdavid,
you did nothing to warrant your deletion from the board!
And I thought you were gone for good...
Now that you're back, please tell us what is it that the thread starter said that is a lie? Don't go away, please, please... Let's talk.
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District Assembly, Elland Road, Leeds about 15 years ago
by New Worldly Translation inthis memory just came to me and i wondered of anyone else remembered it.
it was at the district assembly where the questions young people ask book was launched.
all the young ones had to move and sit together in one stand of the football stadium.
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The Young Witness Exodus Continues
by metatron ini just found out that , on my wife's side of the family, the last witness kid has given up!.
he was the very last one in that half of our extended witness family.
ten years ago, i never would have.
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In my family we were 13 JWs, counting the extended family members like wives, nieces and nephews.
Out of 13, 3 is out.
But this is not what I see in the area I grew up. I have seen cases where the whole family but 1 boy is out (this boy after some backs and forths stayed clearly for social reasons; nowhere to go...)
Another family of the same Hall, whose parents lived in the back of Hall (the father was an "elder"), the situation got so bad that they had to vacate the house they were living: out of 4 children, 1 is in.
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Just got back from the 2004-2005 circuit assembly here are a few thoughts.
by PaNiCAtTaCk inupon arriving i ran into lots of old friends and really enjoyed seeing everyone and visiting.
they dont know that im currently struggling with doubts about the organization and they think that im the same old zealous brother.
i couldnt help but feel a sence of guilt visiting with them about our current number of publishers and how many we had pioneering ect.
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I don't think kingdavid is gonna answer my question... He might be confering with Jonathan by now...
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March Kingdom ministry Re Awake
by littlemike inhas any body got the march km yet in english.
is it really true about the awake or is an internet rumour.
i hope not i have told my dad to look out for it.
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Not a rumor at all. See here for a scan in Portuguese. The English version comes later... don't forget this is the Watchtower Society...
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Getting out...terminating Bible study
by PClark in.
i have been visited by a local jw woman weekly for almost 4 years and started weekly study about 1 year ago.
friday things took a more serious turn and i am very uncomfortable.. i need advise on how to stop the meetings (without being offensive) and still get away from this madness before it gets out of control.
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"She is coming to your home as a guest, so you have the right to cancel the Bible Study..... "
PClark, I couldn't say this better.
I was a JW for more than 20 years when elders came to my house to check on me. I was polite with them allowing them to read a few scriptures to me but in the end I told them I needed time to reevalute things with myself and needed a break.
You don't have to be rude if you don't want to. However, YOU MAY HAVE TO BE FIRM AND CLEAR because JWs are a very persistent people.
Good luck!
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Just got back from the 2004-2005 circuit assembly here are a few thoughts.
by PaNiCAtTaCk inupon arriving i ran into lots of old friends and really enjoyed seeing everyone and visiting.
they dont know that im currently struggling with doubts about the organization and they think that im the same old zealous brother.
i couldnt help but feel a sence of guilt visiting with them about our current number of publishers and how many we had pioneering ect.
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Hey kingdavid,
calm down, my friend! First of all welcome to the forum.
Listen, you started your first post saying that people here are all gullible for believing what another newbie told about his experience in the assembly, and even suggested that he might be making this all up.
Now please, since you said you've been to the same assembly, please tell us what he might be making up, please please...
Remember, I don't want to hear your arguments on whether or not JW is the right religion etc. Forget about that, ok? Just stick to the facts and show how that newbie could be a liar, alright?
I'll be eargerly waiting for your reply. Thanks...
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