Posts by AndDontCallMeShirley

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144,000 New Light update

by goingthruthemotions in

i updated the list of partakers to 2013 (see below)...if i was to predict as to what new light might be coming down the borg poop shoot may be.

i would predict that they need to do something about the 144,000 being a literal number.. for two reasons:.

1. the number of partakers is increasing every year.

AndDontCallMeShirley

1. the number of partakers is increasing every year. ( how does the BORG explain this?

The Borg has already explained this. Here it is:

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w11 8/15 p. 22 Questions From Readers

Memorial partakers. This is the number of baptized individuals who partake of the emblems at the Memorial worldwide. Does this total represent the number of anointed ones on earth? Not necessarily. A number of factors—including past religious beliefs or even mental or emotional imbalance—might cause some to assume mistakenly that they have the heavenly calling. We thus have no way of knowing the exact number of anointed ones on earth; nor do we need to know. The Governing Body does not keep a list of all partakers, for it does not maintain a global network of anointed ones.

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There you go- the increasing number of partaking individuals are nutjobs- 'mentally and emotionally unbalanced'. Why concern yourselves if the number is increasing? They don't officially count anyway.

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Jehovahs Witnesses in USA - prefer a bigger government providing more services and involved in regulating morality.

by Sol Reform in

jehovahs witnesses in usa - prefer a bigger government providing more services and involved in regulating morality .. interesting that jehovahs witnesses who don't vote, even got on this graph.. " what are the political positions of religions and churches in america?.

this new graph maps the ideologies of 44 different religious groups using data comes from pews religious landscape survey.. this survey included 32,000 respondents.

it asked very specific questions on religion that allow us to find out the precise denomination, church, or religion of each person.. .

AndDontCallMeShirley

More correctly, Jehovah's Witnesses prefer a bigger invisible government that provides absolutely no services at all.

It's the type they advocate more than anything else.

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ISIS Recruits Children To Perform Beheadings, Shoot Rifles, Carry Out Terrorist Attacks

by Bangalore in

isis recruits children to perform beheadings, shoot rifles, carry out terrorist attacks.. .

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/isis-training-children-behead-launch-terrorist-attacks-article-1.1921995.

bangalore.

AndDontCallMeShirley

I thought you didn't care about statistics, sammie.

sammie: I could care less what stats you post about guns in the USA - that was never my point

Or, maybe what you meant is you don't care when someone other than you posts them. Hypocrite.

Incidentally, for all your posturing, how does any of what you posted validate your alleged link between the hateful religious zealotry of ISIS and legal gun ownership in the civilized world?

And what does the Ferguson incident have to do with the atrocities being committed by ISIS?

Please edify us with that connection.

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WARNING GRAPHIC, RAW PHOTOS -- ISIS on Christians Watchtower Needs To Speak Out!

by BucketShopBill in

syrian soliders surrendered to isis and soon were beaten, stripped naked and shot to death in the desert.

these following photos show the innocent victims isis has decided to kill.

how do you cut the heads off of four to eight year old kids?.

AndDontCallMeShirley

Watchtower only speaks out on really important matters- like when they promote their own website, distribute a gazillion tracts no one ever reads, or has a line dance to "Footloose" in a Kingdom Hall.

as bohm said, if a JW is killed by ISIS, it will be on JW.Org. Not in sympathy for the victim, but in drawing attention to Satan's persecution of the only true religion, "god's organization".

Joseph Russell

You mean Joseph Rutherford?

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ISIS Recruits Children To Perform Beheadings, Shoot Rifles, Carry Out Terrorist Attacks

by Bangalore in

isis recruits children to perform beheadings, shoot rifles, carry out terrorist attacks.. .

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/isis-training-children-behead-launch-terrorist-attacks-article-1.1921995.

bangalore.

AndDontCallMeShirley

It's always amazing to watch how people struggle to think outside the box.

We're not struggling, sammie. We just are not interested in fantastical musings based on child-like fantasy.

If, in support of an argument I was making, I said, "what would Ice Giants think if they saw Wookies eating Pterodactyl steaks in the same restaurant as Smurfs? Would they think Americans are socially backwards?"

Where does a rational adult even go with that scenario? It's absurd. Yet, you are using the same argument to bolster your viewpoint...then stand befuddled when we call you on it. And, try being honest: you were using that example to promote your personal agenda.

Americans are comfortable with gun violence inside their own country

If this were true, then there'd be no gun debates, would there? No gun legislation at all. I am a gun owner and I am deeply concerned about gun violence. I hate it.

I posed an alternate viewpoint that as usual a few people just don't have the comprehension skills to engage

You can use intellectual bullying all you want, sammie. It doesn't add one iota of credibility to what you say. This type of bullying is a sure sign you've got nothing to add to the conversation, so must resort to ad hominem attacks. A pity.

Actually, we do have the "comprehension skills" to engage...that's why we called you on it.

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@ bemused--

we're on the same page. I have no quarrel with you.

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ISIS Recruits Children To Perform Beheadings, Shoot Rifles, Carry Out Terrorist Attacks

by Bangalore in

isis recruits children to perform beheadings, shoot rifles, carry out terrorist attacks.. .

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/isis-training-children-behead-launch-terrorist-attacks-article-1.1921995.

bangalore.

AndDontCallMeShirley

@ bemused---

I read the article from the site you linked. You are correct:

"There were 55,544 non-fatal injuries in 2011 resulting from assaults involving guns — up from 53,738 in 2010 and 44,466 in 2009, the CDC’s database shows. Since 2001, the rate of gun injuries is the second highest in 11 years when adjusted for population."

but, interestingly enough, the article adds:

"However, Barber said gun violence has “dropped precipitously” from the early 1990s — a trend criminologists chalked up to “changes in the crack cocaine market.” Her observation is supported by crime data and surveys.

The CDC’s most current data show there were 11,078 homicides committed with guns in 2010 — or about 30 per day. The CDC data also show gun homicides have declined each year since 2007, falling from 12,791 in 2006 to 11,078 in 2010, even as the nation’s population grows. In fact, the homicide rate in 2010 (3.6 per 100,000 people) was the lowest since at least 1981 — which is as far back as the CDC’s online database goes."

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ISIS Recruits Children To Perform Beheadings, Shoot Rifles, Carry Out Terrorist Attacks

by Bangalore in

isis recruits children to perform beheadings, shoot rifles, carry out terrorist attacks.. .

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/isis-training-children-behead-launch-terrorist-attacks-article-1.1921995.

bangalore.

AndDontCallMeShirley

@ bemused. Thanks for your reply.

Look at the context of sammie's comment. The context is clearly involving violent, intentional killing with firearms within the topic of ISIS, then with a HUGE leap, fanatical Middle Eastern jihadi violence gets overlayed on Joe Average citizen living in the USA- as if there's a correlation. You posted figures which included accidental shootings to bolster sammie's claim, and added your own personal speculation to justify it:

The original phrase used was victims of guns I think, which can reasonably include aggressive non-fatal injuriesalthough perhaps accidental injuries are slightly more questionable to categorise in this way.

On what basis do you come to your conclusions? Actually, if you look at the statistics, there's no question about categorizing accidental injuries as accidental injuries.

Note also in my figures that 62% of total gun fatalities are comprised of suicides. Again, this undermines sammie's claim that when a shooting occurs it's people killing other people (murder).

So, in the 2010 figures I posted above (because you used that year as an example) of all gun-related incidences, 11,101 were actual murders. Of the 11,101 murders a large portion of those are the result of things like gang-related violence, which means it's not gun violence among the general population (i.e. law abiding, responsible gun owners) but among a sub-group of criminals. That number eviscerates sammies argument using a completely fictitious number of 100,000.

To your credit, at least you showed more interest in being accurate than sammie did.

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ISIS Recruits Children To Perform Beheadings, Shoot Rifles, Carry Out Terrorist Attacks

by Bangalore in

isis recruits children to perform beheadings, shoot rifles, carry out terrorist attacks.. .

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/isis-training-children-behead-launch-terrorist-attacks-article-1.1921995.

bangalore.

AndDontCallMeShirley

In 2011, the latest figure available from the Centers for Disease Control,

Accidental discharge 851
Suicide 19,766
Homicide 11,101
Undetermined Intent 222

Total: At least 31,940 people died from gun injuries in 2011.

Also 258 people were killed during legal intervention, most of them due to guns.

Guns were involved, but were not the primary cause of death:
-in 2 fatal accidents.
-in 6 homicides.

Previous years:
2010 31,328 people
2009 31,177 people
2007 31,224 people
2004 29,569 people

http://www.answers.com/Q/How_many_gun_deaths_are_in_the_US_every_year

bohm: If an alien cannot tell the difference between someone shooting a carboard cutout and somebody shoot a human the alien do not know anything about humans so why should we care?

The whole example is so filled with speculation and fantasy based on unknown "what ifs" it is absurd anyone would post it as a valid counter-point in a serious discussion.

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ISIS Recruits Children To Perform Beheadings, Shoot Rifles, Carry Out Terrorist Attacks

by Bangalore in

isis recruits children to perform beheadings, shoot rifles, carry out terrorist attacks.. .

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/isis-training-children-behead-launch-terrorist-attacks-article-1.1921995.

bangalore.

AndDontCallMeShirley

Is Sammie's number really that far out? US statistics from Factcheck.org:

Gun Murders in 2010 - 11,078

Gun Suicides in 2010 - 19,392

Non-fatal gun injuries in 2011 - 55,544

So about 86,000 gun victims in the US per year.

You are using the figures from two different years to arrive at an annual figure.

At least be honest.

Sammie also fails to differentiate what she's talking about. She goes from talking about children/ISIS/killing/murder with firearms directly to the "100,000 gun victims per year" argument. Well, in your figure above (albeit from two different years) it clearly says 55,544 NON-FATAL injuries in 2011. "NON-FATAL" means no one died, therefore it cannot be used in support of any argument alleging that all gun-related incidences lead to death. "non-fatal" also does not indicate deliberate, violent use of a firearm; it can mean a hunting accident or the all-too-familiar story of someone cleaning their loaded gun and accidentally shooting themself, which obviously only supports an argument about how stupid some people can be.

Again, I'm not arguing for or against guns, but it irritates me when people cherry-pick and misrepresent in order to "prove" their point. If you can't do it honestly then stay out of the discussion.

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The Great Crowd Catch 22

by Perry in

just had a two hour conversation with my father.

he is insistent that he will be able to enter the kingdom of god as a member of the 'great crowd'.

he did agree that only the annointed are declared righteous.

AndDontCallMeShirley

The reality is

LOL