Technically, since you cut a steak into small bits, a JW is only eating "fractions" of steak...so, they are good under WT's convoluted reasoning.
See, use enough imagination and you can get around anything if you want to.
the jws make such a big deal about not taking (eating) blood in any form.
that being the case, shouldn't they avoid eating steaks?
even a well- done steak still contains the animals blood.
Technically, since you cut a steak into small bits, a JW is only eating "fractions" of steak...so, they are good under WT's convoluted reasoning.
See, use enough imagination and you can get around anything if you want to.
i sent my dad the fred franz talk "my story" when he somewhat candidly discusses the failed prophecies, 1925 etc.
i was hoping it would plant a seed of doubt in his heart.
however my parents eat sleep and breathe wt.
Fascinating to see how his faith only grew stronger through the wrong expectations and adjustments in understanding. He could see Jehovah's hand through the years.
What if NASA had a similar mentality? I can imagine their promotional material:
"NASA. We've had 100% failure in all our space missions for over 50 years and crashed every one of our shuttles....which only proves how successful and smart we are. Come be an astronaut today! At NASA, our failures are our successes."
" his faith gullibility only grew stronger through the wrong expectations false prophecies and adjustments bat shit crazy understanding speculation"
1) take meds for your megalomania and delusions of grandeur.. .
suggestions welcome.. .
dd.
Hey D-M:
Have you located that information yet 'proving' your claim that no (atheist) Chinese has invented anything in the last 1,000 years? I'm dying to read that....
1) take meds for your megalomania and delusions of grandeur.. .
suggestions welcome.. .
dd.
D-M: Perhaps I need to qualify ADCMS.. I was referring to the extreme ends of both the so called Christian and atheist spectrum. And you have to admit there are some pretty unpleasant individuals in both camps. I'm sure too there are also gentle and kind individuals in both circles.
Yes, I agree.
There's no group of people anywhere, of any persuasion, which doesn't contain a nutter or two. People are people.
1- pray to god (whomever you may imagine him to be) asking for understanding.
2- study the background about the bible (from non-religious sources) to see where it came from.
3- discard (or at least set aside) chuyrch claims and dogma.. 4- read it, looking up archaeological/historical sources about the places and peoples referred to.
And why don't females have three boobs?...two on the front and one on the back (for dancing)?
1) take meds for your megalomania and delusions of grandeur.. .
suggestions welcome.. .
dd.
Dis-Member seems to be one of those people who will do the right thing only because....fear of punishment from some god keeps him from doing what he really wants to do. In his view, an atheist must be wicked because he doesn't believe in god...therefore apparently has no goodness or morals whatsoever. To put things in perspective, I am not aware of any atheist jihads occuring anywhere in the world now, or ever. I'm not aware of any genocides or ethnic cleansings being perpetrated by atheists because they simply have no tolerance for religious people. These things are being done right now as we speak, however...by some very devout, god fearing, "moral" religious people.
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"A man's ethical behavior should be based effectually on sympathy, education, and social ties; no religious basis is necessary. Man would indeed be in a poor way if he had to be restrained by fear of punishment and hope of reward after death." -Albert Einstein
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known as the Atheists Wager, in answer to "Pascal's Wager".
" You should live your life and try to make the world a better place for your being in it, whether or not you believe in god. If there is no god, you have lost nothing, and will be remembered fondly by those you left behind. If there is a benevolent god, he will judge you on your merits and not just on whether or not you believed in him"
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Out of convicted rapists, 57% admitted to reading
pornography. 95% admitted to reading the Bible.
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"The fact is that far more crime and child abuse has been committed by zealots in the name of God, Jesus and Mohammed than has ever been committed in the name of Satan. Many people don’t like that statement, but few can argue with it." -- Carl Sagan
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STUDIES: ATHEISTS SUPPLY LESS THAN 1% OF PRISON POPULATIONS
It's surprising how many people remark to me, "You're an Atheist? You must have no conscience about committing crime then." Nothing could be further from the truth. In fact, if we examine the population of our prisons, we see a very different picture.
...In Joliet Prison, there were 2,888 Catholics, 1,020 Baptists, 617 Methodists and no prisoners identified as non-religious.
Michigan had 82,000 Baptists and 83,000 Jews in the state population; but in the prisons, there were 22 times as many Baptists as Jews, and 18 times as many Methodists as Jews. In Sing-Sing, there were 1,553 inmates, 855 of them (over half) Catholics, 518 Protestants, 117 Jews, and 8 non-religious.
Steiner first surveyed 27 states and found 19,400 Christians, 5,000 with no preference and only 3 Agnostics (one each in Connecticut, New Hampshire, and Illinois). A later, more exhaustive survey found 60,605 Christians, 5,000 Jews, 131 Pagans, 4,000 "no preference," and only 3 Agnostics.
In one 19-state survey, Steiner found 15 non-believers, Spiritualists, Theosophists, Deists, Pantheists and 1 Agnostic among nearly 83,000 inmates. He labeled all 15 as "anti-christians." The Elmira, N.Y. reformatory system overshadowed all others, with nearly 31,000 inmates, including 15,694 Catholics (half) and 10,968 Protestants, 4,000 Jews, 325 refusing to answer, and 0 unbelievers.
http://www.adherents.com/misc/adh_prison2.html
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The Federal Bureau of Prisons does have statistics on religious affiliations of inmates. The following are total number of inmates per religion category: Response Number % ---------------------------- -------- Catholic 29267 39.164%
Protestant 26162 35.008%
Muslim 5435 7.273%
American Indian 2408 3.222% Nation 1734 2.320%
Rasta 1485 1.987%
Jewish 1325 1.773%
Church of Christ 1303 1.744%
Pentecostal 1093 1.463%
Moorish 1066 1.426%
Buddhist 882 1.180%
Jehovah Witness 665 0.890%
Adventist 621 0.831%
Orthodox 375 0.502%
Mormon 298 0.399%
Scientology 190 0.254%
Atheist 156 0.209%
Hindu 119 0.159%
Santeria 117 0.157%
Sikh 14 0.019%
Bahai 9 0.012%
Krishna 7 0.009% ---------------------------- --------
Total Known Responses 74731 100.001% (rounding to 3 digits does this)
Unknown/No Answer 18381 ---------------------------- Total Convicted 93112 80.259% (74731) prisoners' religion is known.
Held in Custody 3856 (not surveyed due to temporary custody) ---------------------------- Total In Prisons 96968
http://www.holysmoke.org/icr-pri.htm
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So, if belief in god and religion makes people morally superior, why are the prisons filled with theists??
1) take meds for your megalomania and delusions of grandeur.. .
suggestions welcome.. .
dd.
BP2: Paris: What makes you think that Russia is atheist?
Paris didn't think, that's the problem.
He cites China as being an atheist country, not realizing of course (being blinded by his predisposed prejudice against facts) that the Chinese Constitution guarantees freedom of religion. The government itself is officially atheistic but allows its citizens to practice their own religion.
BTW, Paris- you claimed that no atheist Chinese has invented anything in the last 1,000 years. Do you have any proof to back up this preposterous claim?
1) take meds for your megalomania and delusions of grandeur.. .
suggestions welcome.. .
dd.
Paris: Really ? "Atheist Nations are more intelligent, educated and happy" ? Really ?
http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-human-beast/201102/does-religion-make-people-happier
Does religion make people happier?
Are atheists actually happier?
Published on February 17, 2011 by Nigel Barber, Ph.D. in The Human Beast
If religion contributes to happiness, then the most religious countries should be happiest. Yet, the opposite is true.
According to Gallup data for 2010, the happiest nations were Denmark, Norway, Sweden, and the Netherlands. These are among the least religious countries in the world. Also according to Gallup data, Sweden, Denmark and Norway were the second, third, and fourth least religious states, being exceeded only by Estonia in their atheism.
...The principle source of European happiness is also the main reason for their unprecedented level of atheism. As detailed in an earlier post, when countries become more affluent, and their people acquire greater material security, their religious temperature nose dives (4).
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It only makes sense that agnostics and atheists would know more about relgion than the religious. I have noted on several occasions that believing is one step up in the evolutionary chain for sentient creatures. It's just above feeling. Many religious people simply stop right there and never take the time to think, research from a 360 degree perspesctrive, analyze and prove. It appears, based on the data, that the same lazy mindedness associated with their religion carries over to most everything else.
Atheists tend to require as much very good evidence as possible before making decisions. And several studies point out that atheists are simpy more intelligent than religious people. I posted a refernce to one such study last week. Here it is again:
In a 2013 meta-analysis, led by Professor Miron Zuckerman, of 63 scientific studies about IQ and religiosity, a negative relation between intelligence and religiosity was found in 53 out of 63.
In 2008, intelligence researcher
Helmuth Nyborg examined whether IQ relates to denomination and income , using representative data from the National Longitudinal Study of Youth , which includes intelligence tests on a representative selection of white American youth, where they have also replied to questions about religious belief. His results, published in the scientific journal Intelligence , demonstrated that atheists scored an average of 1.95 IQ points higher than agnostics, 3.82 points higher than liberal persuasions, and 5.89 IQ points higher than other dogmatic persuasions.
Secondly, the authors investigated the link between religiosity and intelligence on a country level. Among the sample of 137 countries, only 23 (17%) had more than 20% of atheists, which constituted "virtually all... higher IQ countries." The authors reported a correlation of 0.60 between atheism rates and level of intelligence, which was determined to be "highly statistically significant".
Another provocative finding indicated both atheists and agnostics are surprisingly knowledgable about a variety of religions.
blog.dictionary.com atheism/agnosticism..
on saturday evening i prepared three little truthful statements regarding the "new scrolls", and printed out several copies;.
1) the word 'new' does not appear in revelation 20:12.
2) the scrolls are not "new teachings", they are a basis of judgement for those resurrected.. 3) the scrolls are opened after satan is destroyed - not during christ's 1000 year reign!.
GREAT! Now the cult will be doing articles on " Watch Out For Spiritual Terrorists In The Crapper".
Ironically, this describes the WT Writing Dept.
i get tired of using the argument of "the mystery of evil" to attack god but where are we when we see heroic acts of godly courage from great humans like dr. kent bradly and dr. nancy writebols wonderful works of love?
did you listen to dr. kent bradley's concern and loving compassion for west africa?
he's not angry superstitious mobs destroyed several make-shift medical facilities to treat victims of ebola, no, dr. bradly implored the world to "help save west africa".
Jesus likes...the Dallas Cheerleaders
That's why he was a big fan of the "laying on of hands" approach.