Posts by AndDontCallMeShirley

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Walking Dead, evidently a hit show

by nonjwspouse in

not my cup o tea for sure, but i found out my nephew is a regular zombie on the show.. anyone here like the show?

i'm kinda afraid to even watch it ...my imagination is a bit to active.. .

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AndDontCallMeShirley

I do wish they would get the physics right, ... you cant poke a blunt crowbar thru a zombies head with just a moderate thrust.

Yes you can.

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One Day assembly in Arizona- $17,000 !!

by AndDontCallMeShirley in

i heard from a reliable source that a one-day assembly in arizona last weekend had a "cost" to the publishers of $17,000.. predictably, the elders were nice enough to obligate the attendees to a $6,000 donation to wt before the assembly "costs" (i.e.

"rent/extortion) were even met.

$11,000 rent plus $6000 in extra "donations".

AndDontCallMeShirley

I heard from a reliable source that a one-day assembly in Arizona last weekend had a "cost" to the Publishers of $17,000.

Predictably, the Elders were nice enough to obligate the attendees to a $6,000 donation to WT before the assembly "costs" (i.e. "rent"/extortion) were even met. $11,000 rent plus $6000 in extra "donations". A nice little payday for WT.

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Opps! 2015 Calendar with errors

by pixel in

to all congregations in the united states branch territory.

re: 2015 calendar in english.

if many publishers in your congregation have requested the 2015 calendar in english,.

AndDontCallMeShirley

Which makes the following claim rather silly:

"To this day the Governing Body follows similar guidelines. Each article in both The Watchtower and Awake! and every page, including the artwork, is scrutinized by selected members of the Governing Body before it is printed. Furthermore, those who assist in writing articles for The Watchtower are Christian elders who appreciate the seriousness of their assignment. (Compare 2　Chronicles 19:7.) They spend many hours in researching the Bible and other reference material to make sure that what is written is the truth and that it faithfully follows the Scriptures. (Ecclesiastes 12:9, 10; 2　Timothy 1:13) It is not unusual for one magazine article — that you may read in 15 minutes — to take from two weeks to over a month to prepare.

19 Therefore, you can read The Watchtower and Awake! with confidence. But you can do more. You can enthusiastically offer these magazines to others..."

(W 3-1-87, p.15)

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I guess the GB doesn't scrutinize calendars.

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Connecticut Law Tribune: Latest Sex Abuse Suits Target J.Ws

by AndersonsInfo in

http://www.ctlawtribune.com/id=1202673073702/latest-sex-abuse-suits-target-jehovahs-witnesses?slreturn=20140911103232#ixzz3fqvmacjslatest sex abuse suits target jehovah's witnessesattorneys say religious doctrine barred reports of abuse.

isaac avilucea, .

the connecticut law tribuneoctober 10, 2014 | .

AndDontCallMeShirley

Listener: And still no apology from the Governing Body.

I wouldn't hold my breath on this one. I'm still waiting for an apology for 1914...

Vidiot: I'm wondering just how long it will take before the majority of rank-and-filers in denial get thumped on the head with this enough to finally acknowledge the problem.

Well, the figure of a thousand years factors big in JW Land...

Besides, $28 million is only aprox. $4 per publisher, so no biggie. It's less than the annual fee for buying insurance and cars for the CO's and DO's, so actually paying out on pedophilia losses is a bargain.

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Opps! 2015 Calendar with errors

by pixel in

to all congregations in the united states branch territory.

re: 2015 calendar in english.

if many publishers in your congregation have requested the 2015 calendar in english,.

AndDontCallMeShirley

Now if only WT would be equally as honest about the NWT...

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Opps! 2015 Calendar with errors

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to all congregations in the united states branch territory.

re: 2015 calendar in english.

if many publishers in your congregation have requested the 2015 calendar in english,.

AndDontCallMeShirley

I guess Holy Spirit was napping on the job...again.

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Account of Jehovah's Witness Women Prisoners in Auschwitz (very creepy)

by objectivetruth in

a book titled written by a long ti me ss member .rudolf franz ferdinand hoess.

here is a quote from this book : .

"a pleasant contrast to this type were the female jehovah's witnesses, called "bible bees" or "bible worms.

AndDontCallMeShirley

OrphanCrow: Apognophos, you may be thinking of the JWs Berlin convention in 1933. There are accounts that claim that the Nazi flag was displayed on the stage.

No, Apog is correct.

Here is the discussion with photos showing how Rutherford was flanked on both sides by the U.S. flag, then WT doctored the photos and removed the flags when recounting the event:

http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/bible/214208/1/Watchtower-falsification-of-its-history

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Account of Jehovah's Witness Women Prisoners in Auschwitz (very creepy)

by objectivetruth in

a book titled written by a long ti me ss member .rudolf franz ferdinand hoess.

here is a quote from this book : .

"a pleasant contrast to this type were the female jehovah's witnesses, called "bible bees" or "bible worms.

AndDontCallMeShirley

Something that annoys me to no end is the Society's insistence that they are politically neutral when the history books show us something entirely different.

In a further attempt to appease their enemies, Rutherford published statements in The Watchtower urging Bible Students to buy war bonds, participate in a day of prayer for allied victory and only stopped short of encouraging armed service.The Proclaimers book says:

"Although they endeavored to do what they felt was pleasing to God, their position was not always one of strict neutrality … Thus, in accord with a proclamation of the President of the United States, The Watch Tower urged the Bible Students to join in observing May 30, 1918, as a day of prayer and supplication in connection with the outcome of the world war. [The Watch Tower, June 1, 1918, p. 174]" (p. 191)

*** w80 11/15 pp. 26-27 par. 17 "Jehovah of Armies" to the Rescue! ***

17 Like the Israelites of Isaiah’s day, the spiritual Israelites sold themselves because of wrong practices and came into bondage to the world empire of false religion, that is to say, to Babylon the Great, and to her worldly paramours. (2　Ki. 17:17; 1　Ki. 21:20,　25) An outstanding instance of this occurred during World War　I of 1914-1918

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According to the 1934 Yearbook of Jehovah’s Witnesses, what did the Jehovah’s Witnesses actually tell Hitler regarding their "position" toward the "principles advocated by the government of Germany"?

"The greatest and the most oppressive empire on earth is the Anglo-American empire… It has been the commercial Jews of the British-American empire that have built up and carried on Big Business as a means of exploiting and oppressing the peoples of many nations… The present government of Germany has declared emphatically against Big Business oppressors and in opposition to the wrongful religious influence in the political affairs of the nation. Such is exactly our position… Instead of being against the principles advocated by the government of Germany, we stand squarely for such principles." —1934 Yearbook of Jehovah’s Witnesses, pp. 134-136

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Be Honest About This Doctrinal Matter

by lambsbottom in

wife says she always thought the wt said that anyone alive at armageddon that did not get a chance to hear kingdom message may survive?

true?

references?.

AndDontCallMeShirley

I do jest...and don't call me Shirley.

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Be Honest About This Doctrinal Matter

by lambsbottom in

wife says she always thought the wt said that anyone alive at armageddon that did not get a chance to hear kingdom message may survive?

true?

references?.

AndDontCallMeShirley

Apog: Crazyguy and ADCMS, you should read blondie's quotes again. The Society is not saying that those who do not hear the message will survive.

Apog, the WT is not consistent on this subject and opinions vary among JWs themselves, which betrays how the WT vascillates. Read JW Facts' comments.

There's what is in print and there's the way things really are. You should know this, Apog.

WT's answers on virtually any subject are contextual, and it has no problem waffling when the 'official' answer is too difficult to honestly address. Blondie's quotes are from '00, '07 and '10...ancient history in WT Land and subject to revision ad nauseum.