It amazes me how so-called Satan's world and its tool, the Royal Commission, has shown more kindness than this organization. Can you imagine an apostate's JC being cancelled because the apostate's father has become terminally ill? They'd happily df his ass and shun him at his father's funeral.
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Chant to Geoffrey J.
by JustVisting inhey, hey geoffrey j,.
will you testify today?.
hey, hey geoffrey j,.
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Just wrote my DA letter....
by dubstepped inmy wife and i planned on fading but the elders now want a shepherding call and we are just done.
i know that many play the game to try to stay in, but i'm not a game player and neither is my wife.
our families already shun us because we reached out to a disfellowshipped family member.
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I hope you can get the freedom and peace of mind that you deserve. Difficult choice, but there are no easy choices. My wife and I are wishing you and your wife lots of happiness and closure!
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Contacted by Royal Commission today
by umbertoecho infirstly, thank you to anyone who is in support of this rc.
no one has shown anything but great interest and empathy for those who were abused.. i don't know who this simonsays character is though and i find him to be very rude and ignorant.
it takes all kinds to make the world go round i suppose.. today i was contacted by a staff member of the royal commission.
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Literally beaming rays of pride in all directions right now Umbertotecho! Way to take the initiative!
If I may ask, what does Umbertotecho mean?
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Freakin' hilarious Watchtower Free!
Over 100 years of false prophecy! Now that would definitely get me into a kingdom hall to study that article!
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Why did Jesus have to die?
by Crazyguy inlet's think about this for a bit.
adam was tempted and sinned by eating of the fruit.
he missed out on immortality by being denied the tree of life.
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What frustrates me and turns me off to Christianity is the fact that everything that happened up until now - billions of deaths, constant wars and famines - were the result of Adam accepting a piece of fruit from his wife and eating it. Did Adam kill anyone? Rape anyone? No. He ate a piece of fruit. Instead of banishing Adam, god could have continued to show mercy. He could have continued to educate Adam as a father educates his child when he makes a mistake. Instead he abandons Adam and his family (mankind). Gives us a child sacrifice during a bygone age of desert tribes, goat herders and Roman statue worshipers. 2000+ years later we are supposed to swallow this stuff or face the ultimate sin of becoming the anti-christ. Also we are to go door-to-door and tell everyone how LOVING and LOGICAL this arrangement is.
Even if somehow this is all true, I can never fathom how Jesus' slaughter is supposed to compel me to love god.
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LURKING JW: Thinking of leaving? Learn from my experience.
by SnakesInTheTower in"mental wondering in the wilderness"... uh oh.... it's a long post from snakes.... lol.
yep... i think that is the best way to describe where i am at in life right now.
if you have read my past posts (mostly in the private section) you know some of my history as a life-long (now former) witness.. i have been away from the jw religion, for all intents and purposes, since dec. 06, though it was not until sept 07 that i stopped attending meetings.
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Wow. I'm almost where you were at 7 years ago. Still staring at the inevitable reality of having to move back to the States and going to college. Currently in procrastination mode. So, if you don't mind, could you fill us in? What has happened over the last 7 years? -
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Labeling one self "Atheist" is Unscientific
by LAWHFol ini have not meet all atheists, and it would be foolish for me to assume that all atheists, share the same prototypical view points.
i am inclined to feel that this classifies the views of a large percentage of atheists.
"atheism is, in a broad sense, the rejection of belief in the existence of deities.
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I don't understand why almost all the threads that run the longest on this site have to do with atheism/theism debates. You say toe-mah-toe, I say toe-may-toe. Nothing changes or results from these threads.
There are more important things to consider in the post JW life:
Who's gonna win the world series?
Do my wife and kids feel sufficiently loved by me?
How long should I grow my facial hair?
What beer / wine should I buy tonight?
Have I watched Terminator 5 yet? If not, am I making a realistic plan to do so?
How many peanuts can I safely shove up my nose?
How long can I hold my breath before I start feeling faintish?
Can I wiggle my ears? Yes. How about my nostrils? Yes.
Priorities people!
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I Was Given The New Return To Jehovah Brochure
by minimus ini read it but it certainly didn't apply to me.
nobody stumbled me or hurt my feelings.
i just know crap when i see it.
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A few facts to ponder
by Nitty-Gritty ini have been in correspondence recently with silentambs and a few interesting things have been highlighted.
some of you may know, that bill bowen has twice tried to get the fbi involved in investigating child molestation issues in the jws org.
this is what he said to me, i quote: we have reported to the fbi on two occasions and were rebuffed due to them not wishing to get involved with a religion.
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Nitty Gritty, thanks for coming on here to update us on the past activities of Bill Bowens. We are so happy to have apostates like you who have connections with the major bigwig apostates. I know you wouldn't molest a child right? I'm sure you are just trying to look at things from a fair and balanced perspective. The fact that you are on here as a budding apostate shows that you have other issues with the org. Clearly THIS issue isn't as big a deal to you as other issues are, like perhaps unscriptural shunning or the unscriptural reinstatement arrangement. Perhaps the North Korea like information control techniques that the society employs disturb you as well.
You are commenting on a very emotional issue that people on this site have suffereed from, or perhaps their friends or family haver suffered from. Don't be surprised by the emotional backlash of from your posts. People are angry. People have been wronged and those are the facts man.
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Is It Time to regroup?
by John Aquila inhow much do you want to bet that the organization has already started preparing articles for the watchtower magazines, convention talks, circuit overseers talks and letters to bodies of elders, to refute what is happening in australia?
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right now the most important thing for the wt to do is protect their image that they are gods visible organization.especially in the u.s. and latin american countries.
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The (k)GB already knew this was going to happen, which is why in the July broadcast Lett said it was all apostate driven lies. It was said preemptively to attack the integrity of the royal commission hearing. I hope they use Lett's soundbite in the hearings next week.