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  Looking for advice

  by Liveandlearn in

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  hello, i've finally been approved here so it's time for my first post.

  i got disfellowshipped a few months ago as i was unrepentant in my judicial.

  i'd lived with a situtation for a long time.

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  Bob_NC

  Hi Liveandlearn. I am one who believes that The Watchtower and the religion of Jehovah's Witnesses is a snare and a racket, a scam, and a burden to its members. BUT...

  You cannot have it both ways. You cannot live as you wish and also become a reinstated member. Measuring whether association with worldly friends will count against your reinstatement is trivial. You just made the choice to be DFd when the elders were offering a way out. So what has changed? You still want to live as you wish. That is not how being a JW works. My advice, for what its worth.
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  1914 to 1975

  by Bob_NC in

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  back when i was preaching that this generation of 1914 would by no means pass away, that they were all very old, having been old enough in 1914 to understand the significance of the events of that year...it was just me running ahead.

  i made it all up!

  running ahead with ideas of my own.

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  Bob_NC

  Back when I was preaching that this generation of 1914 would by NO MEANS pass away, that they were all very old, having been old enough in 1914 to understand the significance of the events of that year...it was just me running ahead. That's right. I made it all up! Running ahead with ideas of my own. It had nothing to do with the Watchtower Society. People say, well the WT Society said this and the WT Society said that. I don't know anything about that! It was just a bunch of us rogue brothers running around with big ideas in our heads. That's all that was.
  
  And this business of preaching that the end was likely to come in 1975. And that the 7th jubilee and 70th jubilee years practically guaranteed 1975 as set in stone. That was just a bunch of us local brothers trying to get something going. You know, get the congregation excited about something. Oh, and did it ever work! You shoulda seen all the publishers becoming pioneers...over night almost. And the Bible studies, they were coming to the Hall in droves.
  
  But then the Circuit Servant came around. Boy was I nervous that we were in for trouble for stirring up the friends with this generation of 1914 talk and focusing on 1975 as likely the end of it all. But then the CO looked at the congregation report. He'd never seen anything like it! Peak publishers in the congregation, all reporting record hours and placements in the territory. No problems at all, just busy glowing publishers out in service all the time, talking about being prepared for persecution and all. So what was he supposed to do? He can't tell us to slack off and pipe down about all this. No. So he made his report to Brooklyn and Brooklyn never said anything about it that I know of. Oh! We rogue brothers got a lot of assignments on the assembly programs, gave a lot of experiences on the programs. That was pretty cool.
  
  So all this talk nowadays about the Watchtower leading people down a path of false hopes. I don't know nothing about any of that. It was just a bunch of us brothers saying this and that.
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  A hello!

  by Oogie in

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  hi, i'm newly awakened and just needing reassurance that the wt is indeed a mind-control cult.

  i have two lovely children (under 5) and a husband who is currently asleep..

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  Bob_NC

  Agreed snare&racket. May I add Oogie, you don't have to "do" anything right away. I understand wanting to. I wanted to run screaming up and down the aisles of the Kingdom Hall. I didn't. My JW friends whispered among themselves about what might be wrong with Bro. Bob, but hardly anyone said a word. The elders and the CO did of course. And just like with snare&racket, their concern was whether I was going to talk and contaminate the congregation.
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  Another story... possibly final story

  by confusedandalone in

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  this is the exchange of text messages i had with my super spiritual brother.

  it is sad... it is pathetic... it has helped me realize that i have no connection to these people anymore.

  i feel free today.

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  Bob_NC

  Wow, oh wow. I sort of love it. Just glad it's not me. I get knots in my stomach. But the presumptive audacity to come into someone's home and begin calling the shots like "Brother Jones will pray for us." Oh yeah?

  I was going to suggest that you could make the minimim payments on your dad's credit card bill if would cut up the cards. He did say that his yes means yes, not his yes means yes you will cover him. But then, he might as well pay the credit card as pay you back $100 a month. By the way, the credit card company will be happy to accept an arrangement of $100 a month from a senior.
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  A hello!

  by Oogie in

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  hi, i'm newly awakened and just needing reassurance that the wt is indeed a mind-control cult.

  i have two lovely children (under 5) and a husband who is currently asleep..

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  Bob_NC

  I am so happy for you. It takes a while for the feeling of guilt to go away, but it will. What replaces the guilt, at least for me, is a feeling of disgust and agitation for being fooled and hoodwinked for so long.

  Maybe it is better to talk with your husband early on rather than when you become really upset with anything WT? And yes, the literature turns my stomach.

  Maybe some honest nonaccusation talk with husband about how you got to where you are now.

  NC Bob
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  Something odd just happened when I logged on!

  by tornapart in

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  i typed in my name, password and the captcha, expecting to see my name come up in the top right corner and what i actually saw was someone else's name!

  (the name was another member of this board).

  i looked at it for a few seconds feeling a bit puzzled and not sure what to do about it and as i looked it automatically changed (whithout me doing anything) back to my own name.. has anyone else had this happen to them?

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  Bob_NC

  Well dang! I logged in and its just plain old me, bob_nc. Y'all prolly have demons anyway. :)
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  If a Witness in 1974, how did "Earthquake" in "Sensaround" affect you?

  by Wasanelder Once in

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  for those who dont know, the movie "earthquake" was a huge film with big stars in 1974. it was mass destruction of watchtower armageddon proportions all presented in "sensaround".

  the soundtrack was augmented by a low tone that affected a person's inner ear making it seem the seat was moving beneath them.

  it was awesome.

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  Bob_NC

  I did not go to worldly movies back then. And we were far too busy in the life-saving preaching work during the final months of this old wicked system of things.
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  4 sincere questions for those that believe there is a God

  by S EIGHT in

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  greetings.. allow me to set the questions up.. after 30 years in the truth (i'm now late 40's) and having established the truth about the truth i consider myself agnostic going on atheist.. i struggle to believe there is a god when i observe life yet i try to convince myself there must be something out there.. here's the basis of my question: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-23583116 .

  in summary, 2 young boys have been killed by a snake that escaped from a pet store in canada.

  it made it's way up through the ventilation into the apartment they were staying in.

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  Bob_NC

  Agree and agree.

  How about this...you pray that you do well on your talk. While you are giving your fine, but soon to be forgotten talk, 2 kids and their parents are killed in an auto accident in the same town.
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  My first experience at KH

  by InChristAlone in

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  thank you to all of you who commented yesterday.

  no doubt you gave me an accurate description of what to expect.

  when i first walked in, i was greeted by the jw who calls on my house.

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  Bob_NC

  The most telling part of your observation was noticing the distinction among Jehovah's Witnesses for always "taking in knowledge", an activity, versus knowing and experiencing God, a state of being. That is on point and precisely why you did not experience rejoicing or praising during either meeting. Rejoicing and praising are foreign experiences to JWs.

  Bob in NC whom you sort of know
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  I'm thinking about going back

  by Corboy101 in

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  i have been out for 22 years.i was raised as a jehovahs witness.

  i was baptized in 1986 but soon after left the religion.

  theres a whole lot to the reasons why i left, but i left.

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  Bob_NC

  Corboy...Wow, people are really piling on to this topic. I will be brief.

  Doctrine only. Here is what worked for me while I was an active JW. I read the "New Testament" through starting with the book of John and ending with Luke. There is nothing like getting a straight story, right? I was surprised with what I came away with.

  I was more than surprised, I was mildly shocked. So I read the whole thing again. Yes, the whole NT again, to be sure. It took about 2 months altogether. I was an elder and a JW for 32 years. Reading the NT by itself broke me of that bad habit. I will never go back.