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  The Last NWT in America

  by NeverKnew in

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  so, my non jw cousins have been telling me about a couple of jws that have been "coming over a lot and talking about their religion" (it's hilarious that my cousins don't see these sessions as "bible studies").

  it seems that i've been hearing about these ladies for at least a year but i doubt that my cigarette smoking, pants wearing, no-dress owning, flip-flop wearing, verbal swearing cousin they come to meet with isn't always available.

  i was told that the last time they were there, they asked my cousin to get her bible.

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  Bob_NC

  Your cousin likely did get the last NWT. It must have been deep deep in someone's bookbag.

  Isn't that an amazing mindset of the Witnesses. They come by on a supposedly innocent visit to have a Bible discussion. How nice. But at the slighest hint that you don't agree lockstep with everything they say, "You have a problem" or "You are confused." No, I'm not confused, I'm just reading exactly what the verses say. But they deduce your confusion in less than a second but have absolutely no idea what your background might be.
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  Quick Poll - How many are...

  by mrhhome in

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  how many here are (a) ex-jw, (b) non-jw with jw relatives or spouses, (c) inactive jw, or (d) active jw who stay in for your own reasons?.

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  Bob_NC

  By WT rules (c) inactive JW on purpose since 2000

  Reality, I don't believe any of it, so I am (a) ex-JW

  Interesting to see so many here that are regular publsihers and so forth. The WT doesn't stand a chance long term.
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  Who is your favorite "Apostate"? Who helped you see the truth about "The Truth"?

  by minimus in

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  i would have to say that ray franz was the biggest influence for me.. when i first got on this board, a poster by the name of james, a former bethelite and organization heavy, helped me understand a lot of the inner workings in the upper echelons of the society.. .

  and of course, farkel's common sense approach was (usually) helpful..

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  Bob_NC

  Ray Franz for me too. He is a perfect example of "The pen is mightier than the sword." His use of the pen, his writings, has been one of the most powerful tools to freeing people from the WT brainwashing that I know of. Helped, of course, by writings of Carl Olaf Johnnson, James Penton and others.

  Even as I was reading CofC years ago I was wondering if Ray maybe still believed in the WT. I could not yet conceive that someone could really leave the organization after being on the GB. Now the organization and its supposed power is laughable.
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  My Daughter Is Having Her Own Apostofest With 30 "Inactive" JWs At A Local Restaurant Saturday Night

  by minimus in

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  she has planned to get together with all these 35 plus year olds and it originally was going to be about 10, then word got out.. she is calling it "fallen angels"....(my daughter is too funny!

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  Bob_NC

  Gopher, the ones that come in and leave,

  they are serving Jehovah for the wrong reasons (don't know what wrong reasons, just wrong)

  they are being sifted out

  Jehovah didn't draw them ;D
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  Am I wasting my time?

  by mrhhome in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i am the husband of an ex-jw.

  she left when she was 18, because she was dating a non-jw.

  they got married, and he began openly cheating on her.

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  You did more good than you know by blasting that nonsense and calling it what it is. They are not used to being confronted about their petty nonsense. I can assure you that several JWs felt the heat of the truth. You did well. Now you can be the nice guy, but they will never forget that day that you called them out. They know you were the only one being truthful that day.

  Now, let me go back and read all the other poster's comments.
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  1914 to 1975

  by Bob_NC in

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  back when i was preaching that this generation of 1914 would by no means pass away, that they were all very old, having been old enough in 1914 to understand the significance of the events of that year...it was just me running ahead.

  i made it all up!

  running ahead with ideas of my own.

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  Bob_NC

  Ucantnome, just make sure to turn in your time by the 6th. We have to complete this service year....then the big you know what.
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  Gay MS??

  by andysmiles in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  about me, i am being raised in a jw family.

  all of my family expect for one aunt, who had left but not disfellowedshiped thankly, are in jw.

  my father is an elder and so is my grandfather.

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  Welcome Andy. I don't know how much it helps to know that many many people do not share the "condemn homosexuals" mentality. I am so glad to see the progression of gay rights so that gay couples can marry and have the same status as heterosexual couples.

  This from a straight man and former long time elder. Many of us feel no desire to say anything about who someone loves and how they express it.
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  CoC - Almost half way...

  by MissConfused in

  1. watchtower
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  thanks to all who suggested me this book.

  almost half way through the reading.

  it sheds light to the darkest secrets of this cult.

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  Bob_NC

  Ray Franz' best service to humanity was his two books. I read them both twice. COC rang true all the way through.
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  Looking for advice

  by Liveandlearn in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hello, i've finally been approved here so it's time for my first post.

  i got disfellowshipped a few months ago as i was unrepentant in my judicial.

  i'd lived with a situtation for a long time.

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  Bob_NC

  Hi Liveandlearn. I am one who believes that The Watchtower and the religion of Jehovah's Witnesses is a snare and a racket, a scam, and a burden to its members. BUT...

  You cannot have it both ways. You cannot live as you wish and also become a reinstated member. Measuring whether association with worldly friends will count against your reinstatement is trivial. You just made the choice to be DFd when the elders were offering a way out. So what has changed? You still want to live as you wish. That is not how being a JW works. My advice, for what its worth.
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  1914 to 1975

  by Bob_NC in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  back when i was preaching that this generation of 1914 would by no means pass away, that they were all very old, having been old enough in 1914 to understand the significance of the events of that year...it was just me running ahead.

  i made it all up!

  running ahead with ideas of my own.

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  Bob_NC

  Back when I was preaching that this generation of 1914 would by NO MEANS pass away, that they were all very old, having been old enough in 1914 to understand the significance of the events of that year...it was just me running ahead. That's right. I made it all up! Running ahead with ideas of my own. It had nothing to do with the Watchtower Society. People say, well the WT Society said this and the WT Society said that. I don't know anything about that! It was just a bunch of us rogue brothers running around with big ideas in our heads. That's all that was.
  
  And this business of preaching that the end was likely to come in 1975. And that the 7th jubilee and 70th jubilee years practically guaranteed 1975 as set in stone. That was just a bunch of us local brothers trying to get something going. You know, get the congregation excited about something. Oh, and did it ever work! You shoulda seen all the publishers becoming pioneers...over night almost. And the Bible studies, they were coming to the Hall in droves.
  
  But then the Circuit Servant came around. Boy was I nervous that we were in for trouble for stirring up the friends with this generation of 1914 talk and focusing on 1975 as likely the end of it all. But then the CO looked at the congregation report. He'd never seen anything like it! Peak publishers in the congregation, all reporting record hours and placements in the territory. No problems at all, just busy glowing publishers out in service all the time, talking about being prepared for persecution and all. So what was he supposed to do? He can't tell us to slack off and pipe down about all this. No. So he made his report to Brooklyn and Brooklyn never said anything about it that I know of. Oh! We rogue brothers got a lot of assignments on the assembly programs, gave a lot of experiences on the programs. That was pretty cool.
  
  So all this talk nowadays about the Watchtower leading people down a path of false hopes. I don't know nothing about any of that. It was just a bunch of us brothers saying this and that.