Interesting test and confirming what I already had a hunch about Secular humanist here,
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So apparently I'm now a Secular Humanist
by Oubliette ini was doing some research on the subject of beliefs and belief systems when i came across an on-line survey/test that supposedly helps you determine which religion or philosophy is most like your current beliefs.
if you're curious, you can take the quiz here: belief system selector quizafter answering the 20 questions the results were spit out!
tada!!!.
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Hi to all, new one here
by Rambo Morris III inhi!.
been reading this forum for 2 years and this site has been great help for me.. currently my situation is difficult, im slowly fading and trying to make new friends outside jw.. i fear of losing many friends and family members, but i know that some point i just have to do it, its my life not theirs.. havent attendet meetings for 2 years now, life is better and instead waiting armageddon, im planning future to myself.
i will tell more about my situations when im ready for it.... .
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Bugbear
Hi there rambo!
You have just made a lot of new freinds. welcome and a big hug from Scandinavia.
Bugbear
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How True!
by LouBelle in" religious teachings are seductive.
they hold out the promise of wisdom.
this is especially enticing to someone who has problems in life.. you think you are going to gain something extremely important.
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Bugbear
Lou Belle!!
How True you are talking. There is no such thing as the absolute and final truth. All things developes in time and new truth are revealed. The only interesting thing its to keep "on line" and evaluate your thoughts according to your coincensness. Hoping that your parents gave you some basic ideas of etics, moral and humanity.
Bugbear
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Since when is independent thinking equivalent to disobedience?
by I_love_Jeff inthe jehovah's witnesses say that adam decided to thinking independently and eat from the forbidden tree thus committing a terrible sin-disobeying.
how is thinking freely equivalent to disobedience?.
"in keeping with the principle of this proverb, adam acted selfishly and his foolish thinking distorted his way.
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Bugbear
Blondie!
Your knowledge of the Bibel is very impressive. I believe that you have been a witnesses for many years. I will always turn to you when I need a Bible qoute or a reference from the societys viewpoint. I know that you are the only one that could give a correct answer.
But it looks like you know all these things and still belive there is an answer in the Bible texts?! What do you know about "higher Bibel criticism". What do you know about what science today know about the origin of all these texts? Do you have got a chance to study the "original" text often stored in the Vatican library? Who were the person that actually put alla these letters together? What did he exclude as "not being canonical?". It would be nice to have a conversation with you on these subjects.
Bugbear
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Since when is independent thinking equivalent to disobedience?
by I_love_Jeff inthe jehovah's witnesses say that adam decided to thinking independently and eat from the forbidden tree thus committing a terrible sin-disobeying.
how is thinking freely equivalent to disobedience?.
"in keeping with the principle of this proverb, adam acted selfishly and his foolish thinking distorted his way.
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Bugbear
The hole idea of giving independant thinking (a brain with intelligence) and IQ with un avarage of 100 and then say dont use it, it is as absurd as if I have got a car that could be given to fellow or brother or family member saying:
"Here is the car that you could use for getting you to your job or the hospital or wathever, but you are supposed NOT to use it. So I keep the kees to ensure that no onelse will be hurt for your bad driving."
Isn´t that humerous? Or is it just i game that a person with a mental dissorder like to play.
Bugbear
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Ancient giants and their mythology is the source of all religion?
by yadda yadda 2 ini think it's very likely there were ancient giants that thrived in a time in our distant past where earth's conditions were favourable for optimal genetic expression, as was the case with dinosaurs, etc.
there's very good evidence for this.
these giants would have dominated and ruled like gods and would have had their own mythology where they claimed to have descended from gods, such as we read of in the book of genesis with the nephalim.
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Bugbear
According to Science (Archeology) as far as I know, they have found no scheletons, from the period before the flood 4300 years ago, that indicates there were existent giants (human)at that time. How come that we have 100.000 parts of scheletons before the flood and not one of those that were really giants. We know that some animals were "BIGGER" but no trace of human beeings been bigger. The oldest of these BIG animals such as the dinosaures and other speciments, disapeared over 300 millions of year before the "flood".
On the other hand experiments has been done to test various thechniqe to explain how the Pyramids were built, the Stonehenge a.s.f. Some archologist are quite sure that they know the techniqe, using a waste amount of slaves and animal power, such as elephants and others.
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Do some x witnesses shock you despite being one?
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Bugbear
Beeing an Atheist, does not mean that you lack of moral, ethics, or consience. In fact it could be the other way around. If you still believe that a Good should give you a higher etics, higher moral, it depends on what that good tells you. If you listen to JHWH and what he demands you to think, with all slaughter, murder killing of animals, war against enemies .a.s.f.
In my Atheistic world, my conserne, is the suffering of the living creatures. How can I help them? How can I contribute to make the world a better world. Is that a shocking philosofy?
Bugbear
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JWs Most Feared Bible Verse
by JCISGOD98 inthe jehovah witnesses most feared bible verse.
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Bugbear
I have red the Bible several times, both with JW,s and on my own. In fact 20 years ago i was un elder in a JW congregation. But reading the Bible more and more, made me very confused. There was so much violence, killing, human catastrophy, and it all came from a very demanding good. Tha Bible itself contains very much what other scriptures such as the hindu Veda verses, The Gilgamesh Epos and even the Koran.
Everytime you try to induce some "holiness" in any of these scriptures, saying that they are the "word of Good" you are in trouble. The texts themself shows their human background. They are often written by strong leaders that wrote them mainly to "frighten" their people, to obey their interpretations of the texts in order to make the people obeydient taxpyers, worriers a.s.f. If the people do not accept the leaders interpretation, they threth them with hell (catolic) or total destruction in harmageddon...(JW,s) Other punishments are mentioned in other scriptures. It looks like the Kings, the presidents, and other forms of leaders must use some old scriptures to stay in control.
Bugbear
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I kind of envy Christians
by stillin in"faith is not a possession of all people.
" that's what the scripture says.
i guess i'm one of those people.
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Bugbear
Painted toe nail
"I am more at peace now, than I was when being an active JW",
Youre quite right. Beeing "a beliver" amongs JW:s must be hell. All those absolutely rediq. ideas that the GB has served their belivers makes your life to a tradgedy. Families are broken, friends are shunning you, new rules that you have to obay just just to keep you within. I can see all those conflicts very close to myselft, but I am still unable to release parts of my family from this "spider net" that keeps em trapped
Bugbear
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I kind of envy Christians
by stillin in"faith is not a possession of all people.
" that's what the scripture says.
i guess i'm one of those people.
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