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  Are JWs more negative than normal people?

  by Julia Orwell in

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  compare a typical conversation with a jw to one with a random non-jw:.

  run into jw in the shops.. .

  jw:[surprised] julia!

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  Since my wife is still in, I hear sometimes rumors from the cong. And I have noticed, that almost every one of the congs. Members are in some way “out of order”. I hear dysfunctional diseases, such as ADHD, Paranoia, fibromyalgia, headache’s, depression, a.s.f. Especially, pioneering sisters, often call my wife in the morning saying they cannot go out in the fields today, but maybe next week. My wife seems to be quite happy with it, this makes her free from this field service another day. No wonders why preaching ours has being slow down in northern Europe. My guess is that of 35 members of our congs. Only 10 are effectively active.

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  What Do You Read?

  by minimus in

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  as a jw, i read all the publications and tried to understand all "theocratic" watchtower policy.. i read 3 newspapers a day and rarely read a book or magazine, other than wt.

  stuff.. i read the bible a number of times and still find it a good read.. i love to read the internet news as well as the cherished drudge report.. what's your favorite read??.

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  I like to read fact books, with subjects like History (ideeas, ecomical, or religious). Books written by scholars within these subjects and maybe essays from Archeological excavation, give me ammunution when CO:s and elders are coming to talk me into better thoughts. Usually it only takes 3-5 minutes for their visit. Then they raise their asses and run away in a hurry, they say they have sooo many other brothers to visit. (which I know they havent)

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  Are Baptism numbers going down?

  by Julia Orwell in

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  One obvious conclusion is since the number on humans increase with about 82.000 million people per year and the number of publishers only with approx. 260.000 tousands per year, god must be very busy in killing non JW´s at Armaddon even more for every day that passes til Armageddon really comes. I wunder how many Angels he must use to finish the job, when it comes?

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  Quick Poll - How many are...

  by mrhhome in

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  how many here are (a) ex-jw, (b) non-jw with jw relatives or spouses, (c) inactive jw, or (d) active jw who stay in for your own reasons?.

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  Im inactive since more then 15 years. Disassociated, since 3 years. Wife still in. My whole family, (6 children) all are free and out of control from the org. In fact the only one that suffers from my disassociation is my wife. She cannot ever invite her "friends" to our house.

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  The Beauty Of This Site

  by minimus in

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  the diversity.

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  This is the only site that is totally democratic,in where all (who wants) could express their feelings or knowledge without fearing beeing shunned och disf. Its a breathing hole for all those who never hear serious questions discussed at the KH. Here they can find support for their doubts, and facts for what they believe. In fact what the WTBS do with their belivers is very much similar to what all previous political ideas did to ther inhabitants. The communist, faschist and religious ideas always tries to silent their critics with hard methods. It is also curruption preventer. Leaders dont like their followers to know what they actually are doing.

  Thanks for this site..

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  Parallell scriptures does anyone know how many?

  by Bugbear in

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  Thank you for all your help. I have been wundering how all these parallells come to be. One exponation from a Bible critical University I have read is that all hebrew scriptures originaly was not written down. Yhey were sagas litterary learned by hart. A number of men/boys were taken out to learn some texts by hart and remember it to be read on the ceremon in the synagoug. Some times goes, and those poeple who actually could write some hebrew, was taken out to write those "Learned by hearth" sagas. Of course they wrote dawn listen to the people who know their storyies by hart - on scrolls not codex. And of course it is far more difficoult to see similarities between texts in a scroll then in a codex. Year by year these by hart learnet masses of texts were written down and nobady noticed that the already hade copies of copies of copies.... When Athanastasious (a greek Bishop) prescribed all these texts as "Canon" He didn´t know either. In fact some Jewish sects and some Islamic congreation still use the consept of learning by hart.

  These are the reasons why the bible cannot be "Gods wholly word". The bible is still one of the most intressting litterature we have more then 2000 years old but it is nothing in it that could face common scientific facts. The same goes with the Choran.

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  Parallell scriptures does anyone know how many?

  by Bugbear in

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  I have noticed that a number om Biblical books are quite similar to each others. For instance the books of Kings and Samuels and Chronical do contain exact the same phrases in many chapters. In some cases just a few names are different and switched to another. i have understood that these chapters are called the "parallells". Is there anyone who knew which chapters are equal? Is there anyone who made a computer run to se which chapters are only copies of the other. 40 years ago I remember that the Aid book tried to answer tha question with that the writers wieved it from diffrents standpoints. As an academic I must say that if you are to write un accademical essay, this "coping" will automatically disqualifing you from an excim. Please anyone there who could help me? Bugbear
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  Parallell scriptures does anyone know how many?

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  Improving Critical Thinking Skills

  by GloomySunday in

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  i'm out of the jw religion, but still have trouble thinking critically.

  when i was in, i had no idea what a logical fallacy was, i used all sorts of false arguments, yes, even "if man evolved from monkeys, why are there still monkeys?".

  i would fall for just about everything.

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  If you want to study the subject on a higher level (University) you could start with book from the UK. The book is written by Richard Feldman and named: Reason and Argument , publisher is Prentice Hall 1998. >This book is very expensive, but if you are eager to find Reason and Argument, I think it is a good start to become a Philosofer. Bugbear
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  The Bible and it's promise of Heaven and various other things

  by confusedandalone in

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  now in no way am i trying to discredit anyones beliefs or make fun, but once you get to heaven what is the plan once you get there.. of course, we always overlay extremely physical things upon the experience of heaven... milk and honey... ruiling over the earth etc... truthful the whole idea sounds so boring / mundane /monotonous.

  spending all of eternity serving god by carry messages here and there?.

  watching humans... i guess spending time with family that are also there and reminiscing.

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  For thousands and thosands of years humans have had the Idea of a god. No other explanation of life were at hands.Muslims pray (if they are not secularized) 5 times (or8?) a day. Chatolics pray every day in their churches. Pentacoast people pray in tounges. Many africans pray to a stone or some figure they believe is a God. Pharaones had the idea that they should unite withtheir ancestors. Socrates belived he should unite with the heavenly gods. It seams to me that the idea of a god, was un evolutionary necessaryidea to make humans sustain in live and to keep the next generation with some hope. Not one of all these prayers can ve.s.s.frify that one singleprayer have been heard by god.

  300 hundred years ago some clever men and women, discoverd the absolute absence of a god. Many of them became deist. (God is absent)some of them become Pietists (god is whitin my heard and I have a personal feeling that I can speak to god with my heart) Today we know that god is not necessary for life. And less and less people feel the need of praying. Why continue to pray to someone who hasn´t heard you for at least 6000 years. This despite from which religion the prayers come. Humans are stucked up with ideas they have learned from their fathers, mothers, teachers, mullahs, preast. And they are stucked up with what they WANT to belive. Look at JW:s. They still believe in that there are some truth in what the GB says. Some people also believe in what the Bible says. I feel pity for all humans.

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