are children born crippled/diseased, uncared for, and dying prematurely proof that god does not exist?.
1) what do children born healthy and well cared for prove?
2) what do babies aborted (many of whom might have led a normal healthy life, and some of whom might have contributed much to the society like many scientists, doctors, engineers ....) prove?.
Anointed
It looks to me as if your questions are irrelevant to answer the question about Gods existence. None of them can solve the problem, but they can maybe explain if the questioned God is either;
1 Impotent
2 dead
3 ignorant (or doesn´t give a shit)
4 evil (or maybe psychopath)
the world health organization states that in the year 2015 ,5.9 million children died under the age of 5 years of age.. in 2010 the death rate for children under the age of 5 years of age was 7.6 million.
thats over 13 million in just 2 years .
i dont think you need to be a rocket scientist to conclude that since mankind has been on the earth for however long you want to believe and i`m just going on a conservative estimate of 6000 years by the above figures i quoted their would be billions of children under 5 yearsof age that would have died.
Smiddy!
I think you hit the very core of the theodicy question. God “created” death, illness. Tsunamis, earth cracks, viruses, cancer, malaria and he did really killed all humans during the flood….not only that…he is going to kill all others under terrible conditions. All other humans because they are Muslims, atheist, Buddhist, Jainism, LDS, Pentecostal, or just ignorant enough not to understand he is merciful, good, loving, caring and existing….The theodicy problem have made many intelligent men and women turning in to atheism. Bart Ehrman, Sam Harris, Christopher Hitchens, Richard Dawkins, Bertrand Russel …
If you want good arguments I think you could find them on youtube, here is a link to one oft hem,
i remember once in berlin south germany there was a local needs part for the men only, and how they should use the toilet.
in all seriousness for ten minutes a retarded nigerian was going on about how men need to sit down when using the toilet.
no mention of anything else.. it transpired that some little kraut boy from an "interested" family would aim for the side of the toilet and leave a great big puddle for others to clean up.
Yes I do remember a fellow elderly brothers of mine, who were forced to have a speech in the late 80 ties about the danger of internet. He said that the younger ones shouldn’t at all use computers to assemble facts. It was too dangerous, and they were only one click away from, porn, bad games and other facts that that could reduce their interest in the real truth….This brother was at the time the only brother among the board of elders that had any idea of what internet was. He was picked to have the speech but I could clearly see that he didn´t like what he was saying. Today he is unfortunately dead…
my wife and son were watching the january broadcast and one of the segments was about william tyndale.
william tyndale was a bible translator in the early 16th century.
i always knew that the org held men like tyndale, john hus and john wycliffe in high regard.
Absolutely not...he had a beard;
for those claiming that- how much thought or research have you done?.
objective or non-objective?.
ever read the other books claiming to be from god?
I´m sorry to say that your ”designer” must have drunk or out of order when he “designed” the world. Think of all diseases from mosquitos, bacteria’s, cancer, earthquakes, tsunamis, meteorites, that has almost obligated all his “creations”, all the volcano eruptions, and the famine that kills almost every minute at least 5 under aged children. (Less than 5 years) or Think of a father a God that drown all his children in a flood about 4.300 years ago….???!!!
for those claiming that- how much thought or research have you done?.
objective or non-objective?.
ever read the other books claiming to be from god?
The-Question
I don’t Think that anyone of us have the real true knowledge. We are all on a constant journey, using all our capacity to understand “the world”. Some of us don´t care much about “truth” or evil or God or “understanding”, most of us accept the context of which we are born in. I myself have spent my first 25 years as true atheist. Turned the next 15 years towards a JW. Was an elder, and graduately faded, started to study History of Ideas and Science and Philosophy…. I have read the Bible several times (of course as a JW, and elder) but the reading rose even more questions in my mind. Today I am again un absolutely convinced atheist…I admit that I haven´t read the Koran and all the Suras in there, but I think much of it is only plagiarism…from many of the Hebrew scriptures that were circling around when Mohammed went to war for creating his own Arab tribe religion. If you have the time, pls look up on youtube a professor in old Greek manuscripts namely Bart Ehrman… He has become my “latest” favorite of Schoolars,,,But I am not sure, maybe Jesus will revealed himself for me before I may rest from all the bookreadings..Since you avatar is named the Question, I think you could look up my new started tread “Question” on this site
did the aztecs carve out the beating hart out of their enemy’s breast?.
did the jews “killed all their enemies, men, woman and children - but not the virgin girls”.
did the jews slaughtered cattle, birds and other animals and burned it in the temple of jerusalem.
Why:
Did the Aztecs carve out the beating hart out of their enemy’s breast?
Why:
Did the Jews “killed all their enemies, men, woman and children - but not the virgin girls”
Why:
Did the Jews slaughtered cattle, birds and other animals and burned it in the temple of Jerusalem
Why:
Did the people of God actually accepted and encouraged the habit of taking slaves?
Why:
Did the Christian God have to torture and kill his son to be able to forgive his other creations?
Why:
Why do some people from India suddenly regard “certain” cows as “wholly”?
Why:
Do some Buddhist monks rig themselves up in a rope to stay upright and starve till death?
Why:
Do a loving caring Father and God, let almost all of his children drown In a flood?
Why:
Do Priest. Monks and Popes, let female creatures burn up in fire because they think they are obsessed by the devil?
Answer:
Religious minds
we all 'exit' in our own way and at our own pace but i'm curious, why carry on stuffing yourself into that stiff suit and tie or meeting dress years after you realised the truth about 'the truth'?.
they kept you a prisoner, what's stopping you from leaving now that you have the key to your own cell?.
loved ones?
Family reasons? ?
someone decided to make their avatar almost identical to my old one so i changed mine to avoid any confusion.. <- so lookout for this anytime you want to read some "amazing words of wisdom" from now on :d.
Simon,
Now I know who you are,,, You are "zooro"
a problem for believers!.
a majority of the world’s population acknowledge that they believe in a superior god or in their creator.
they also claim that they have got this special understanding and knowledge of his will and his law.
The question..
I do have consider the facts,,,, and the facts make me somewhat confused…. Not all these religious groups, in fact, none of them that I know of, have proven any proof for the existence of any God. In fact it 99 out of 100 MUST be wrong… And if there is 1 on them that actually is right…Why is it so difficult for this “cult” to prove they are right?
Tepipoultry
I will eagerly consider your proposition “Flying Spaghetti Monster”,,,,,I have heard of this God from a very noble man; Bertrand Russel, Who I do consider as a very intelligent and philosophical human being…
