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  Michael the Archangel

  by UnDisfellowshipped in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  is jesus christ the same person as michael the archangel [chief angel], as the watchtower society teaches?

  what does the bible say?

  here are all of the scriptures that mention michael the archangel:.

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  edp81

  Joseph,

  It is quite obvious to see that you really don't know what you are talking about. In Exodus 3:13, Moses asks God what His name is. God responds that His name is I AM THAT I AM. He tells Moses to tell the children of Israel that I AM had sent Moses to them.

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  You are right in your assumption that God the Father did not do all the work of Creation by Himself. Check out Genesis 1:26, 27. "Let us make man in our own image." "So God created man in His own image." How do you account for this?

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  Where do you ever find the term God applied to a "created angel"? You have failed to provide Scripture as proof for your arguments. In fact, you have failed to produce any evidence for your arguments.

  You cannot find any verse in Scripture to substantiate your hypothesis that the word "angels" in Hebrews 1, 2, & 12 refers to humans. This is just simple not true. Check out Psalm 8:4,5. The psalmist is talking about man when he says, "You have made him a little lower than the angels, and hast crowned him with glory and honor." Also in Hebrews 2:7, we see that man is set over the "works of Your hands" (i.e., the rest of creation).

  In essence, to say that there are people who become angels is to say that these people become a different creature. They are no longer a member of the human race. Would that not be "incarnation"?

  Undisfellowshipped,

  A verse that you may be interested in is John 8:58. Here, Jesus clearly identifies Himself as being one with the I AM of the Old Testament. Jesus is God. Jesus is not Michael the archangel. Or Gabriel. Or whoever else someone may try to make Him into. He always has been, is, and always will be GOD.
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  DA'ing policy for blood transfusions?

  by cyberguy in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  has anyone gotten a scanned copy of the letter sent to co's, to da someone instead of df'ing them for a blood transfusion?

  it seems to me that this policy change has been secretly kept from everyone outside of elders.

  in fact, the co read it to elder bodies, but nothing in writing was actually given to local elders to file in their talmud-of-society-letters!

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  edp81

  I am not a JW and I am not familiar with some JW terms.

  Could you tell me what you mean by "DA"?
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  "Their Lives In Their Hands" You think?

  by morrisamb in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  in recent days, i've been thinking a lot about the "you must scream when you're raped" rule...[thanks big tex for the correspondence on this issue].

  then i read a column by mindelle jacobs in our london free press (i believe she writes for the edmonton sun) that inspired me to write the following rebuttal...although not jw specific, it might still be of interest to some on this forum.

  thanks for reading and any feedback you may care to contribute!

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  edp81

  Thanks for the input Witch Child.

  I am glad to hear that you are healing.

  May the real Lord Jesus Christ continue to help you in this healing process.
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  Why I'm Here...

  by Sara Annie in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  so many stories from so many people.

  i've read with them all with interest and sympathy, and felt that if i am going to stick around and be a productive member, i should probably tell my own.

  i know i am not the only non-jw on this site, and i wanted to offer the perspective of a 'never-was' as to why i am here and participating in the discussions.

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  edp81

  Welcome!

  I am a non-JW as well.

  There is a book on ebay that you may be interested in. The name of it is "Reasoning from the Scriptures with the Jehovah's Witnesses". I have read part of it and it appears to be a very good book. You can buy for approx. $6.

  I hope that you are successful in your pursuit here.
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  nwt bible

  by edp81 in

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  can anyone tell me how to get a copy of the new world translation of the bible?.

  i would also like to get a copy of "reasoning with the scriptures".. thanks.

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  edp81

  Thanks everybody.

  This info helps alot.
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  MAJOR TV SHOW TO DISCUSS JW CHILD ABUSE

  by Scully in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  major canadian tv show to discuss jw child

  abuse scandal

  this is to alert the jw world that a major tv documentary is set to go in canada on the jw child sex abuse issue.

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  edp81

  Please let me know where I can get a copy of this program. One of my profs. in college will be especially interested in this program.
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  do you think that there is a big exodus due from t

  by dannywalsh in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i dont know about you guys but im starting to get the feeling that a big fallaway is on the cards in the wt world what with all the recent scandals and the advent of the internet , information is so readily available to those in developed countries ,i feel that especially in developed nations the wt will suffer huge losses due to apathy and their extreme stand on so many issues, that many will become sick and tired of the wt treadmill of life which is so far away from the simplistic beauty of biblical christianity what do you think?

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  edp81

  I don't know about that growth factor. I used to pass a Kingdom Hall every Sunday on my way to church and they haven't built a new building or even an addition in about 18 years.

  One the that is different with dubs than with other Christians is that it seems that if someone leaves wt that they won't just go to another church like everybody else. It seems like these people will probably shun religion altogether. Maybe I am way off though.
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  nwt bible

  by edp81 in

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  can anyone tell me how to get a copy of the new world translation of the bible?.

  i would also like to get a copy of "reasoning with the scriptures".. thanks.

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  edp81

  Thanks.

  I am not a JW.

  I was kinda looking for a way to obtain these books without having to enter a Hall.
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  Labels for Mags

  by DINKY in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  hey, i wanted to share my latest brilliant idea for pissing off dubs.

  i frequently see the mags in the usual public places: doctor's/dentist's office, supercuts, etc.

  i didn't want to throw them away 'cuz then the idiots would just leave more - and get to count them as placements.

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  edp81

  Someone is apt to think that you guys are dissatisfied with the Society.
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  nwt bible

  by edp81 in

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  can anyone tell me how to get a copy of the new world translation of the bible?.

  i would also like to get a copy of "reasoning with the scriptures".. thanks.

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  edp81

  Can anyone tell me how to get a copy of the New World Translation of the Bible?

  I would also like to get a copy of "Reasoning with the Scriptures".

  Thanks.