i'm a great problem solver.
give me enough time, and i can find the solution to anything you care to name.
i can always find the answer.
I am convinced that some of the most intelligent people are their own biggest problem. They literally drive themselves into dissatisfaction by the problems their own minds create... just for the sake of solving them...out of bordom, or the inability to control their creative instincts.
If you are anything like me, this, in all honesty, cannot be our problem. But isn't it an attractive sounding description of why we are such a putts?
hey all.
i am so pissed off at the elders right now that its not even funny.
my spiritual grandmother died recently.
"They forgot her in life and they refused her in death." Your anger is justified, I hope the venting helped, that it was more effective than counting or deep-breaths. I have no answer other than the obvious, just please know we feel you.
more and more lately when i have occasion to read any of the society's publications or any postings here at this site which quote the society's publications i find more and more lately that i become really irritated, annoyed, chafing, at the redundant phrase "anointed christians.
" it just irritates the hell out of me.
i don't necessarily understand the "why" of this annoyance only that i recognize that i have it.
LOL @ Un-annointed annointed ones = the other sheep. Oddly enough there's some real logic in that, if they would adopt the term, they would be a little closer to the truth.
Thanks for the laugh, keep up the good work.
a friend and i recently had this conversation in email.
i feel very bad for everybody involved with the project, the families, etc.
as a male child of the 60s i grew up enthralled at the whole nasa project -- building gemini models, posters on the wall, "where were you on 7/20/69", etc.
I agree that the term hero is loosely defined because of its overuse. My thought is that a hero is someone that acts on someone else's need at great cost to him/her self. Unquestionably setting the right example for all of us. Courage and moral/ethical solidity is what sets the stage. I cannot take anything away from the Columbia crew, I admire and appreciate what they do so very professionally and with tremendous bravery. However I struggle to consider them heroes, at least on the level of the 9-11 firemen. They saved lives where I can't say the same for the astronauts. Yes, their deaths were a terrible loss and all the world agrees, so much so that I don't really oppose them being called heroes given the benefit of my doubt.
I am simply saying that the better definition (by example) of a hero would be the people who attacked the terrorists mid-flight or the firemen at the WTC. Maybe it (for me) hinges on protection, or the attempt to save someone's life, which doesn't (to me) apply to the Columbia crew..even as much as I respect them.
i still can't believe it.
knowing that the jw's have a qualification system in place to evaluate the preparedness of teachers, publishers, and other positions in their heirarchy...schools in fact...having even to qualify for baptism:.
how in the world did this guy pass?
I still can't believe it. Knowing that the JW's have a qualification system in place to evaluate the preparedness of teachers, publishers, and other positions in their heirarchy...schools in fact...having even to qualify for baptism:
How in the world did this guy pass? We were speaking about whether or not the earth would be consumed by fire and this representative of God decides the way to convince me is to put a bic lighter to a handful of dirt...saying "see, it doesn't burn." I was honestly speechless while trying to comprehend that he was serious. Finally I managed "have you ever heard of magma/lava?" I'll spare you the rest of the story but can anyone top that for severely ignorant logic?
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because of the connations(sp?
) of `mother goddess', a pagan super goddesss,should a jw use this phrase?.
As much as I hate to admit it, it is a clever play. Mother is to be submissive to the father, but still very much an authority, and the mother is more or less on the same level as the inheriting son...which is what their doctrine clearly teaches.
more and more lately when i have occasion to read any of the society's publications or any postings here at this site which quote the society's publications i find more and more lately that i become really irritated, annoyed, chafing, at the redundant phrase "anointed christians.
" it just irritates the hell out of me.
i don't necessarily understand the "why" of this annoyance only that i recognize that i have it.
I mean absolutely no offense but your question "are there any phrases in the Society's literature that irratate you?" made me laugh. Your irritation grows and will continue to grow proportianately to the amount of literature you read. I, for one, haven't yet gotten to the point of being emotionally immune to the deceitful and arrogant attitudes and claims, and I honestly doubt that day will come.
The contradictions and hypocritical writings are endless, the more you read and research, the more you find. This isn't the result of having concluded they're wrong and simply, without due examination, assuming them to be wrong in the first place. Most everyone here agrees, they condemn themselves without needing any help from me.
I appreciate your "anointed anointed ones" example. Again the contradiction, christian means "belonging to Christ" and although they claim to adhere to this fundamental doctrine, in practice it plainly doesn't bear out. They are Jehovah's people and proud enough of it to boast about it with no restraint or shame. Hense the constant reliance on the phrase "Jehovah's organisation/arrangement", which is one of many phrases that irritate me.
i've read my fair share of their pubs, and nowhere, ever have i seen a clearly stated repentance or a humble confession on the part of the wts.
i know that they have delicately admitted a mistake here and there, but it's always overshadowed by the self-praise logic that overall we should be thankful for the mistake.
the bible specifically speaks against that.
I've read my fair share of their pubs, and nowhere, ever have I seen a clearly stated repentance or a humble confession on the part of the WTS. Have any of you? I know that they have delicately admitted a mistake here and there, but it's always overshadowed by the self-praise logic that overall we should be thankful for the mistake. The Bible specifically speaks against that.
I think this would be a great new category for Quotes, don't you? A comprehensive list of pseudo-apologies where the WTS's best effort to take responsibility can be clearly seen for what it is.
on saturday i had a full on, hate to say it, arguement with my jw friend.
i'm ashamed to say i lost patience and said many things i have previously avoided - knowing it would be too much for them, especially so much at once.. anyway, i know they went to sunday's meeting, so who's food was at the proper time?
mine or theirs?
On saturday I had a full on, hate to say it, arguement with my JW friend. I'm ashamed to say I lost patience and said many things I have previously avoided - knowing it would be too much for them, especially so much at once.
Anyway, I know they went to Sunday's meeting, so who's food was at the proper time? Mine or theirs? What was the topic of the talk and subject of the WT study article? I'd like to know whether what I said rang a bell or did the article and talk recover nicely? Any info would help...I will try to get a copy of the WT mag but tell me about it and the talk if you can. Maybe it was another one about how Jah requires that they keep their lawns and lawnmowers and houses and gutters and storage sheds and garbage cans and mailboxes nice for all the worldly people to see that they don't place value on worldly things. No, seriously, please help.
I gotta tell you, it was liberating to say exactly what I felt needed to be said...I've wanted to explain that you can't make chicken soup out of chicken $hit for a long time now. WHEW
was there a single scripture that finally made perfect sense as you were tempted to leave and allowed you to do so in good conscience?
maybe it was the one that never made sense until you were out?
was there one that seemed to sum it all up after you left?
Was there a single scripture that finally made perfect sense as you were tempted to leave and allowed you to do so in good conscience? Maybe it was the one that never made sense until you were out? Was there one that seemed to sum it all up after you left? One that made your departure the right thing to do?
Any number of scenarios...what scripture spoke the most clearly for you as you discovered the WTS
