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Check your IQ in less than 13 minutes

by JH in

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thanks to quinah and nathan natas of another forum, here is the link to check your iq.

http://www.iqtest.com/.

it says i have an iq of 139 .

Is false hope better than none?

by GinnyTosken in

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between sips of mcginty's cerebral tonic for clear thinkers, i have been reading a book by martin seligman called learned optimism.. seligman began by researching learned helplessness.

he describes one of his early experiments:.

the third dog was left alone.

From my own reading and thinking I see much evidence of evolution and zero to support God. Over the past year I have been keenly interested in evoltuional psychology as it seems to hold many of the keys as to why people actually need to believe in God,

That being said I will try to distill my thoughts as simply as possible here:

As humans our primary function is survival-centric - self preservation is our purpose above all other. Our psyche is also centered to survival and as such fear and hope are dominant to meet that end. Without hope meaning/perceived life-purpose is generally considered lost and without it humans tend to revert back to primitive instincts and behaviors.

I have no hope - and I well know the void I have inside me and how painful it is when I think about that void so I avoid thinking about it. On the otherhand I also despise ALL religion and what it stands for (many play the mental-masturbation game and say they are spiritual vs religious...a kind of self denial - but so be it) and I personally hope that the WTBS is correct in their predictions about religion being destroyed. But on the flipside I understand how key HOPE is to the survival of our species and if their is one thing religion does well it gives people hope (yes the placebo effect works well doesn't it?) so I just don't see this happening and if I am to be realistic I should not want this to happen either and should sacrifice my ideal of a world without religion for a world where hope still lives.

I wish I still had hope - perhaps then my view of life and the world would be different.

Jack

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Quesions about Jehovah

by the real truth in

i am not writing these quetions to offend anyone, i am just seeking honest answers.

will you jehovah's witnesses help me in finding answers?

there is only 1 god.

donkey

AAF,

I am sure you never meant your post to be directed to me.

ASS

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Quesions about Jehovah

by the real truth in

i am not writing these quetions to offend anyone, i am just seeking honest answers.

will you jehovah's witnesses help me in finding answers?

there is only 1 god.

donkey

There is a theory known as the "Theory of Constraints" and in the theory on of the primary problem solving tools is to imagione your issue as a big black storm cloud and then ask: what will it take to make my cloud go away?

The most successful mechanism for making the cloud disappear is to challenge your assumptions because in almost all cases you have made some assumptions which are not based on truth or established fact and without the assumption the issue disappears or is easily solved....just like evaporating a cloud.

Your whole question is based on a challengable assumption namely: The Bible contains the Truth. Until we can establish credibility for the Bible as true why use it to bolster an argument? What will seem to be a ridiculous parallel would be to say: why didn't Cinderella go in search of the prince instead of waiting for the prince to search the whole country with the glass slipper before she was found? This question assumes that the story of Cinderella is true...establishing that the story is a myth or a fairy tale changes your perspective to: "why waste your time even trying to answer the question".

Hope you have a sunny day.

Jack

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Jerry Springer is Running for Congress

by Jayson in

another fine democatic hopeful.

integrity, morality, honor, high cultural standards....hahahahahahah .

these are liberals we are talking about!.

donkey

The republicans are a bunch of biggoted religious bible-bashing thugs

The democrats are a bunch of whiny babies with their hands held out who cannot help themselves.

I think Jerry Springer fits quite nicely in either party.

Jack

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Miss You Mom

by donkey in

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i miss you so much i just cant say how much i hurt inside.

i think back to when i was just a child and how you gave me the food from your plate when there wasnt enough for each of us to have dinner.

you always put me first, your joy in life came from seeing me happy, knowing i was safe and i had everything you could give me.. i miss doing my homework with you, the way you taught me to draw and how much confidence you always had in me and i still remember how you gave and gave until you had nothing more to give me.

donkey

Thanks for your thoughts.

To clarify something...

My Mom has not passed on yet. However she lives in a different country (far away from where I live) and has advancing Alzheimers. She visited me and left 2 days ago to return home. I don't know that I will see HER again (even if I do see her the chances are high that she may not even recognize me ).. In fact it is likely that I just said good bye for the last time...as though she has had a premature death and I am struggling to deal with it so I wrote what I wrote this evening.

Jack

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Miss You Mom

by donkey in

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i miss you so much i just cant say how much i hurt inside.

i think back to when i was just a child and how you gave me the food from your plate when there wasnt enough for each of us to have dinner.

you always put me first, your joy in life came from seeing me happy, knowing i was safe and i had everything you could give me.. i miss doing my homework with you, the way you taught me to draw and how much confidence you always had in me and i still remember how you gave and gave until you had nothing more to give me.

donkey

I miss you so much I just can’t say how much I hurt inside. I think back to when I was just a child and how you gave me the food from your plate when there wasn’t enough for each of us to have dinner. You always put me first, your joy in life came from seeing me happy, knowing I was safe and I had everything you could give me.

I miss doing my homework with you, the way you taught me to draw and how much confidence you always had in me and I still remember how you gave and gave until you had nothing more to give me. I can never repay you I could never give enough in return. You were the kindest person I ever knew. As I sit here and look at your photo with tears streaming down my cheeks - I never knew when the day would come when I would lose you forever.

Becoming an adult was all I ever wanted to do when I was growing up. I never thought about why I just knew I wanted to grow up, get married and have kids. Once all that happened and I had everything I thought I wanted, I realized that it wasn't as easy to maintain as I had thought. Now you’re gone and my heart is heavy with such sadness and sense of the most incredible void I have ever experienced in my life.

Even though I know I will never see you again I just keep telling myself I wish I had told you many more times than I did that “I loved you”. I miss you more with every minute that passes. I don't know how it will ever get better. I do know that I promised you that I would take care of myself and continue with everything you taught me.

Jack

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TED JARACZ OF GOV BODY ASKED TO COMMENT ABOUT DOUBLE MURDER

by rainbow2003 in

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murder question for watchtower bible & tract society's ted jaracz

wisconsin: in the town of ogema:

two brothers, robert and benjamin moore, were shot to death august 30, 1995, and copies of an online police report show some believed perhaps a jw relative murdered them and early on allusion was made to the watchtower teaching that those who die before armageddon can be resurrected to live forever.

donkey

Who in their right mind thinks Ted will answer either allegation?

If he says he is innocent no xJW will believe him and if he says he is guilty everyone will want his ass anyway. There is nothing for him to gain by responding...

Jack

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Williams sisters

by Phil in

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i was recently having a discussion with a jw on the extent to which the williams family are jws.

his statement was that only the mother is a jw.

papa?

donkey

LMAO @ LDH

I cannot stand the Williams sisters - everytime they go on court I support the opposing player. Why would anyone support them? They are effectively a marketing campaign for the WTBS and send the message: "Look we have normal people in our religion and look how successful people can be when they apply our teachings in their lives".

Besides that they are totally boring to watch and sound like monkey's in heat with all the noise they make on the court. Now their Dad...I love him - he is the only Williams with any balls or character - I salute him for standing up to the world and proving his point.

Jack

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Where is the evidence

by KGB in

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many of you make claim that god does not exist, you say that you found your evidence in the bible, what i want to know is where is the evidence.

i am not interested in just mere thoughts but actuall evidence

donkey

I thought that maybe there was some substantial evidence that someone knew that would show evidence in Gods non-existance

.I take it that if you apply YOUR reasoning to other circumstances that you believe unicorns, fairies, pixies and goblins exist - afterall where is your proof that they don't? A ridiculous argument? Yes, but it's yours not mine.

Saying stuff like "you guys used to believe" doesn't cut it...just because people used to believe in something doesn't make it right does it?

Jack - of the it never ceases to amaze me how stupid belief requires followers to be.