hi, there's been so many threads going off on atheism, evolution and science but most end quickly because many can't hold their own without getting abusive, angry and lots of hard feelings against our friends here who helped us get beyond all the confusion and fear plus uncertainty we all felt trying to leave the cult!
when you can bring up interesting topics and share ideas through intelligent discussion it's possible we could lose all the anger that ensues on our adult boards!
here's a book i heard dr. richard dawkins bring up saying he liked the logic and reasoning of peter medawar's book, why not evaluate it yourself?
PPP, you do know that science is a philosophy, right?
The difference between science and religion is that science is evidence based, whereas religion is all about allegedly revealed truth which, not too surprisingly, comes through a single individual or group who just happen to end up in control as a result of "God whispering in their ear."
The former is mankind's best attempt at a rational, objective understanding of reality; the latter is scam at best and a delusion at worst. Often it's both.
ok, l know i am not the first to notice or likely comment on this, but as little as i respect commenting on persons, i am going to do it now.. lett seems like a charicature.
he is so strange-i cringe when i watch him speak.its as ifhe was once given advice to speak slowly and clearly and now he just talks like a cartoon.
he creeps me out.
Steve2: If Lett ever apostasizes, all of a sudden many posters here will see him in a different and much more favorable light and not be so preoccupied with his rubberized countenance and glacial speech rate.
No, even if he starts posting here with vitriolic rants against his former brethren I'll still think he's an idiot.
Stupid is as stupid does.
it was one of the commenters replying to another thread, but i cannot find it.
it was a great rant & well thought out.
it basically put in simple terms how the donation arrangement is like being forgiven of your 10 year mortgage, then being told you should 'donate' an amount equal to your monthly mortgage payment, but indefinitely.. i'd really like to find that person's reply, so i can use the same logic with some of my family members.
Why not read page 2 and 3 to the Congregation. Do they have something to hide?
Yes, absolutely yes. They have a lot to hide! This is just the proverbial tip of the iceberg.
couple of weeks ago an elder took a young man aside and crawled all over him after the tms for wearing a "skinny" tie.
it was one of those 2 inch wide ties.
nothing bright or scandalous about.
Controllers gotta control.
Let's review: It's a cult!
hi, there's been so many threads going off on atheism, evolution and science but most end quickly because many can't hold their own without getting abusive, angry and lots of hard feelings against our friends here who helped us get beyond all the confusion and fear plus uncertainty we all felt trying to leave the cult!
when you can bring up interesting topics and share ideas through intelligent discussion it's possible we could lose all the anger that ensues on our adult boards!
here's a book i heard dr. richard dawkins bring up saying he liked the logic and reasoning of peter medawar's book, why not evaluate it yourself?
Thanks for the recommendation.
It's now on my Amazon.com Wish List
this discovery is a major step in our understanding the diversification of life.. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-32610177.
with all the furor over the jw's cash strapped pleas, i'm surprised no one noticed a different issue with this broadcast.
it was historic!
yes, all 7 of the gb have broadcast in the 7 months of the channel's existence!
wasanelder once: Oubliette, why no review?
I don't want to be too predictable, but since you asked nicely:
Let's review: It's cult!
after the bombshell that is the may broadcast asking for cold hard cash, i was thinking about the mathematics of the money that they want.
details are very few, but with help from a few people we could build up a decent guess about cashflow.
we know that 6 buildings recently were sold for 375 million dollars, tax free i assume.
Every congregation publicly discloses its finances each month. Why doesn't "mother" practice the same transparency?
with all the furor over the jw's cash strapped pleas, i'm surprised no one noticed a different issue with this broadcast.
it was historic!
yes, all 7 of the gb have broadcast in the 7 months of the channel's existence!
Is that not HISTORICAL?
I believe it's spelled: hysterical
not sure if my title is correct.
what i noticed is that in say secular bible research documentation, books, lectures etc, one never (or at least i have never read it) reads a quote from one of the former or current wbts leaders nor do i ever see a reference to one of their publication (unless it is article about the jw/wbts itself).. for example, if you read a book on a bible theme or topic written by a scholar or other bible teachers/professors from prof xyz, you will find often in these books a reference to publications / statements / quotes from other scholars or professors.
but never have i seen a reference to say a wt publication or quote / statement from one the leaders of the organisation.. so, despite the million page printed or conferences organised by the wbts, the material apparently is never considered of value to others or to use as reference material.. in my view, that says a lot..... or am i wrong?
This is an excellent point menrov. The reason is simple: there is no academic value to anything published by the WTBTS.
Real scholars of course realize this. If they ever did quote any WT publications, it would likely be to show how wrong they are.
