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  Saw this and had to share

  by ItsMyLife in

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  2. friends

  i intend no offence to those who have a firm belief in god.

  i myself am currently on the fence.. http://i.imgur.com/9gajkpy.jpg.

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  Oubliette

  IML, I never saw Labyrinth. Now I'll have to!
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  I just want to say this forum is a minefeild of mind boggling information of facts and questions that no JW is ever going to receive at a Kingdom Hall

  by smiddy in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i thank you for this site , and all the people who contribute to it with their knowledge and input into it.. subjects need to be discussed , and different ideas need to be considered , and debated .

  that is healthy for the mind.. the wtb&ts dictates what their members are to beleive and no questioning is tolerated.

  that is unhealthy to the mind.

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  I prefer to think of it as a "treasure trove" rather than a minefield. Nevertheless, trolls do stop by from time-to-time to annoy and pester.
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  Only if you're a Brit! LOL

  by tornapart in

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  http://www.buzzfeed.com/lukelewis/things-youll-find-funny-if-youre-british.

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  Oubliette

  I laughed at most of them even though I'm not British. The only one I didn't get right away was the Nonce rappers, ... that is until I googled it!
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  2013 July Our Kingdom Ministry!

  by Atlantis in

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  2013 july our kingdom ministry.send space (link in the blue box by blue arrow)http://www.sendspace.com/file/iz0wma.file swap (click on slow download)http://www.fileswap.com/dl/kcsokdcsx5/.file flyer (click the green download button)http://www.fileflyer.com/view/izeucaf..1984 songbookclick the link in the blue box by the blue arrow.http://www.sendspace.com/file/kr6sxj.

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  Oubliette

  Thanks, as always!
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  A question concerning the OSCE and the WTBTS.

  by DATA-DOG in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  first of all, here is a good link with some information.

  http://perimeno.ca/letters_1107_osce.htm .

  so, has anyone actually spoke to their elders about the un and the osce from a confused sheep angle?

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  Snippet from Instructions for Credit Card Donations at Circuit Events

  by Splash in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  thought this was a clever little ruse.. it's on page 11 of the instructions booklet.. .

  the refund function is used to reverse a credit card transaction after it has been settled.. the refund function has been disabled.

  any donor whose debit or credit transaction.

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  Oubliette

  No refunds. Pretty funny!

  "Hey, Armageddon hasn't come. I want my money back!!!"
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  Watchtower Quotes Condemning Disfellowship for dissenting views as Radical, Satanic

  by BU2B in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  "rather, like the church of rome their ["religious leaders of today"] influence is exerted to restrain investigation within the sectarian limits.

  with the implied threat of disfellowship, they urge their ministers and students not to search continually for truth, but to accept the voice of their sect as infallible.

  " watchtower 1887 apr p.923.

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  Oubliette

  From jwfacts.com:

  Historical Watchtower Development

  As late as 1947, the Awake described the practice of excommunication as an unscriptural, pagan practice, using Hebrews 10: 26-31 to show it should be left to God to judge individuals.

  

  Notice toward the end of the article how this WT describes the practice as a "weapon ... by which the clergy attained a combination of ecclesiastical powern and secular tyranny that finds no parallel in history."

  I guess the WT Leadership wanted to see if they could out do them!
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  What is the most damning watchtower publication?

  by zound in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i want to purchase a couple of vintage watchtower publications to help in my helping jw's break free.

  some of the older ones are expensive or hard to come by - i know you can buy them on cd's but i'd like to own one or two of the "classics of propaganda"- some of the ones that speak for themselves as to the ridiculousness of this religion.. of course any magazine i pick up today speaks to me of the ridiculousness, but you need something much more hardcore for the jw's.. any recommendations?.

  "children" has some pretty good quotes in it..

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  The amazing thing about the Watchtower Quotes website is that it proves how wrong this religion is by ONLY using quotes from their own literature and generally doing so without commentary!

  Let the contradictions and flip-flops speak for themselves.
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  Establishing the Premises Regarding "Jehovah's Channel"

  by Ding in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  typically, when the topic of new light arises in discussions with a jw, it come about this way:.

  1. wt critic cites discarded doctrines or false prophecies to the jw in order to undermine his faith in the gb.. 2. jw counters by citing proverbs 4:18, saying that changes are fine because the light gets brighter and brighter.. 3. wt critic gets frustrated because any sort of nonsense can be overlooked via that type of thought-stopping "logic.".

  perhaps a better approach is to start by asking the jw to explain how the "jehovah's channel of communication" process works.

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  Ding: Given all the ludicrous things we've shown them, how can we know if the current teachings of the slave are really what Jehovah wanted communicated to them?

  We can't, but to paraphrase you: JWs must assume that it is.

  

  It really doesn't matter whether the FDS is right or wrong; the only thing that matters is this: Listen, Obey and Be Blessed!

  We KNOW the FDS is the FDS because they tell us so.

  
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  FACT: "Apostates" are more loving and understanding than JW's

  by El_Guapo in

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  2. friends

  i love this site, it has been instrumental in my "waking up" as i have read thread after thread i realized something, people who have left the borg "apostates" (i used that term loosely, and mean no offense) are much more understanding and loving to someone who's learning the ttatt.

  once someone states they don't want to give out too much personal info.

  while telling "their story" (for obvious reasons) no one attacks the person and says if you really believe the ttatt you need to defend it all times!

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  Oubliette

  John 13:35: By this all will know that YOU are my disciples, if YOU have love among yourselves.

  Matthew 5:46 - 48: For if YOU love those loving YOU , what reward do YOU have? Are not also the tax collectors doing the same thing? And if YOU greet YOUR brothers only, what extraordinary thing are YOU doing? Are not also the people of the nations doing the same thing? Y OU must accordingly be perfect, as YOUR heavenly Father is perfect.

  2 Timothy 3:1 - 5: But know this, that in the last days critical times hard to deal with will be here. For men will be lovers of themselves, ..., having no natural affection, ..., without love of goodness, ..., having a form of godly devotion but proving false to its power; and from these turn away.