Posts by Oubliette

I vaguely remember a branch letter advising new halls not have windows as a security thing, but that's lame as it's as easy to kick in a door as break in through a window. My recollection is that this was early '90s but I'm not certain.

In typical WT fashion, you know they had another reason, but they weren't saying what that reason actually is/was.

Someone that had been on the RBC and paying attention might have more to offer on this.

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How do you overcome this JW excuse?

by EdenOne in

during one of those meetings that took place before my jc, one of the elders, who was a good friend of mine back then and used to come up with a few outlandish personal views about some teachings, attempted to counter one of my arguments like this:.

eden - "well, if the truth doesn't change, why is it that what we teach as 'truth' has changed over the years (several examples given)?

how can we dogmatically claim at any given moment that we have 'the truth' if our teachings keep changing?".

Oubliette

CFS

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2014 Year of the.......

by sparrowdown in

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tight-pantsgate?.

the great wt rebranding?.

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Oubliette

Simon: If you believe the WTS then you have to believe that Jesus is the bigest waste of space the world have ever seen - 100 years of rule and nothing to show for it.

This is not true. The WTBTS has plenty to show Jesus has been busy as their invisible ruler.

As several posters pointed out, a District Convention part made clear that Jesus ensured his organization was on the cutting edge of technology, first with the Photo Drama of Creation and now with the new fangled jw.org internet thingy.

Satan's system of things ain't got nothin' on ol' Jesus. No how, no way!

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Why must we APPLY for everything?

by Tech49 in

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i was thinking about this today, after seeing another thread on the subject of serving in israel, of all places.

there have been many comments on the recent thread, and the ones a little older, about how utterly ridiculous that premise is.. the bigger question is why do i have to apply?

permission?

Oubliette

It's almost as if these people can't even tie their own shoes without being told to do so.

"Tight Pants" Tony will be getting to that soon now that he's laid down the law on colored socks and Spanx.

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What is truth?

by Heisenberg in

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well, i have been lurking on this site for several months and i recently decided to join as a member.

i have made several observations and would like to make a few comments.. first, i am perplexed by the attitude of many on this site that are either former or active (but apostate) jws.

they seem to have a strong hatred for the wts and also for rank and file jws.

Oubliette

EdenOne, I really appreciate your post #1447.

It's really nice to see how much you've changed, grown and developed since you first began posting here!

Well done.

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Public Speaker Training stifled by wt, it's new 'school' programme.

by prologos in

the 2015 school setup, discussed this week eliminates the last "school talk" by brothers in favour of 'demonstartions" (a la sisters conversations) of family worship sessions and the like.. is this not a shift away from encouraging bright young ones to hone their (under-estimated) speaker skills ---to.

now using more of the die-hard, org-bound, --even elders in indoctrination demonstrations?.

do you see this trend?

Oubliette

They have "demonstrations" of how to have "Family Worship"?!?!?

WTF!!!

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To all my congregation Elders :

by RULES & REGULATIONS in

thank you for coming to my house so often because you were so concerned about me missing so many meetings.. ( actually, the only time you visited was when the circuit and district overseers were in town.

you really showed them how concerned you were about your sheep.

i now know that it is more of a duty than a concern.).

Oubliette

SCENE: Chance encounter with a JW while out shopping

JW, enthusiastically: "Hey, how are you? I've missed you!"

ME, skeptically: "Really? My phone number hasn't changed ...."

JW, flustered for a moment, but then attempting a recovery: "Well, the phones work both ways you know!"

ME: "That's right. They do. I called you last February. Your wife answered the phone. You were 'out in the ministry.' I heard her tell you it was me and I heard you tell her to tell me that you'd call me back. Do you remember?"

JW, sheepishly: "Um, yeah. I do."

ME: "So how've you been?"

JW: "Busy .... "

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Christmas Beliefs!

by J-DUBBED in

do jehova wingnuts believe jesus birthday isn't dec 25?

or do they just plain and simple not believe in any birthday?.

Oubliette

Jesus was almost certainly NOT born on December 25th.

That being said, the peculiar beliefs of Jehovah's Witness have developed over the last couple of centuries. As different individuals have taken control of the organization over time, they each have made significant changes in doctrines, practices and "beliefs" in order to create a religion in their own image.

Charles Taze Russell, as misguided as he was, likely actually believed he was discovering (or perhaps "rediscovering") revealed truth. In his time they celebrated Christmas.

After he died, Joseph Rutherford, who was an opportunist and a bully, drastically altered the religion, again morphing it into his own image. As a lawyer (of questionable credentials) he transformed the religion into the highly legalistic entity it is even to this day.

From Rutherford's time until now the emphasis has been on being different and unique. The Bible, while omnipresent, has largely been a mere prop to lend credibility to their doctrines and beliefs.

Oddly, the current Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses has recently made changes that superficially make the religion appear more mainstream. Although they still don't celebrate Christmas and they will disfellowship you for openly criticizing the WT leadership, they now have their very own TV show very much like the 700 Club and a myriad of other televangelists.

Oh, and they need your money. Lots of it!

Let's review: It's a cult!

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That's what's missing from our family

by dissonance_resolved in

tonight as i was putting my son to bed, we were looking out his bedroom window from his bed, down upon the neighbors' house across the street.

they have a beautiful, big sparkly christmas tree in their front window and my son gazed at it and said, "that's what's missing from our family.

" talk about daggers through the heart!.

Oubliette

What your family is REALLY missing is warmth and love. Since hubby's not likely to start taking the lead in that area anytime soon, I suggest you make it your mission to share as much warmth and love in your family as you possibly can.