Oubliette

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  How hard is it to attend a congregation outside of the territory where you live? Consequences for doing so.

  by hoser in

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  2. friends

  i need to change congregation but stay living in the same place.

  any experience with this.

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  Just go. Or better yet, just stop going.
  
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  Convention Cartoon

  by freemindfade in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  so last night they played the convention cartoon.

  there were a few laughs from the audience, overall though people seemed a little taken aback and tight lipped.

  like no one gushed about it afterwards, no applause, just like it was nothing new at all.

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  I just talked to a local JW and they said it wasn't shown in their hall.

  Is this only being shown just before a DC?
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  "Normal family affections and dealings" continue - If only?!?

  by LHS123 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i am new to this forum - it is only a couple of weeks since i have allowed myself to acknowledge and research my doubts.

  i am trying to be fair by reading both sides of the story and considering jw official explanation of confusing matters.

  one of the issues i have been looking at is shunning - and i was shocked to see the misleading information about shunning on the jw.org website: .

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  Vidiot: ... if you have to cheat to defend your beliefs, your beliefs don't deserve to be defended. I actually want to get this tattooed somewhere.

  How about on the forehead of each member of the GB!
  
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  Cult Classics Comic Strip

  by New Demosthenes in

  1. social
  2. humour

  arg... okay, i've been trying to do this on my phone and it's been giving me fits.

  here is what i had attempted to post.. i'm at work, night shift, and nothing is going on.

  i thought a comic strip would be an amusing way of telling my story to people outside of this community.. it's a rough draft, i'm open to feedback.

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  Don't put the dialogue bubbles over the characters. It makes them hard to read. Notice how they are placed in published comics.
  

  That being said, if you're trying to do satire on JWs, your dialogue isn't very realistic. A JW mom wouldn't tell her daughter to "flirt" or "snuggle" with anyone, even another JW.
  
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  OK....IM TOTALLY CONFUSED ! !

  by brandnew in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  ok, so....does everyone who has ever been born, and lived on this planet called earth....get ressurected?.

  doesnt that sound like pissin in the wind?.

  destroy everyone......just to bring em back......to destroy them again....... seems like a neverending cycle..

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  No.

  You have this one life. This is it. Don't waste it on foolish things like joining a cult.
  
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  Shutting down the Judicial Committee "invite".

  by kairos in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  judicial committee invitation comes, with be there or be square consequences.. ( come or we will df you ).

  what are the sure fire, tested and true tactics that will keep the elders off your back?

  ( for good ).

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  Oubliette

  Kairos,

  Sorry you're going through this.

  Nothing quite demonstrates their complete lack of love as much as a letter like that.
  

  It only further proves what I always say: It's a cult!

  
  
  
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  I want to take them down

  by cookiemaster in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  hey guys!

  some of you might know about my latest clash with the elders.

  i see the pressure this cult is putting on my family.

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  CM, we hate it too, but it is a waste of precious time and energy to try and destroy them.

  Living well is the best revenge.

  Try and help the people you love, but know you can't change another person. It's hard enough to change ourselves!
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  Do You Think Humanity Will Ever Be Completely Free From Religion?

  by InjusticeSystem in

  1. social
  2. current

  i realize that many here still have a form of spirituality or faith, and i mean no disrespect to those individuals.

  i suppose i am posting this question to those, like myself, who have come to the conclusion that religion in general is a major hindrance to the progress of our species and needs to be put aside so that we can advance to our full potential.

  so my question is, do you think this will ever actually happen, and how do you think we can get there?

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  Only can only hope!
  
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  Convention Cartoon

  by freemindfade in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  so last night they played the convention cartoon.

  there were a few laughs from the audience, overall though people seemed a little taken aback and tight lipped.

  like no one gushed about it afterwards, no applause, just like it was nothing new at all.

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  Personally, I like RSA style animation as a way of teaching.
  

  There are some pretty amazing educational videos that use this technique (see below).

  My gripe is not about the form or the format of the message, it's with the content and the manner of the message.

  The WTBTS leadership treats its members like children that need to be told how to behave in public.

  Let's review: It's a cult!
  

  RSA Animate - Drive: The surprising truth about what motivates us (Dan Pink)

  RSA Animate - The Secret Powers of Time (Philip Zimbardo)

  
  

  
  
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  The Culability of Jehovah's Witnesses and Pedophilia

  by AllTimeJeff in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  the subject of pedophilia and the sexual abuse of children often is complicated.

  by that i don't mean that it is complicated to know how to deal with pedophiles.

  they have a despicable problem in their minds and need to be identified and controlled for all children's sake as well as for their own sake.

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  I have often wondered if god exists, why he made us with such strong sexual impulses only to forbid their use except in the strictest of circumstances. There is much about such a view that is illogical.

  OK, if there IS a god, and as far as I'm concerned the evidence is less than scant, he/she/it/ is certainly not anything like the tribal desert god of the bible. That conception of "god" is of a severely mentally disturbed, deluded being. Simply put, it reflects the superstitions, fears and paranoia of the primitive people that created him.

  In simple terms: Jehovah is one fucked up God. If a human acted like that, we'd all want to put him in prison. The Bible account of Jehovah paints a portrait of a psychopathic, narcissistic person that is capricious, unpredictable and pretty much insane.

  According to all media accounts, the average Mafia Don is a nicer guy than Jehovah.

  Going back to the thesis implicit in the statement quoted above, this is a very good point. According to the Bible, God made us so that we all want to fuck as often as possible, but then he said that if we DO THAT, then we are bad.

  That just makes no sense.

  Seriously: God makes us to want to do something and then says we are "bad/sinful" because we want to do that.

  Do you really want to worship THAT god? Really?
  

  Evolutionary biology has a much more plausible explanation: Survival of the species makes us all want to fuck as often as possible, but we have also evolved cognitively to the point where we can consciously be aware that that might mean we consider who, when, where and how often we copulate. Why? Because there are consequences which anyone with even a sub-par IQ can understand.
  

  The Bible doesn't really go there. Why not? I dunno. Ask Jehovah.
  

  But until he responds: So you have it. We have outgrown the Bible. It is a relic from our Bronze Age past which--if it's studied at all-should only be considered for its historical and cultural significance relative to influencing how we got to now.

  It most certainly is not useful or relevant to the 21st Century. Heck, it hasn't been relevant for over a thousand years.

  Let's review: It's a cult!

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