metatron you just made my day HUUGEEEEEEEE HUGS FOR YOU!!!!! THAT MAKES ME FEEL SOOOO MUCH BETTER LOL
thanks so much
love nelly
nelly1
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Some Old Bethel Wisdom
by metatron ini survived years at bethel during a period of great tension - there were lots.
of nervous breakdowns and people suddenly leaving because they couldn't take it anymore.. one lesson that i never forgot is: watch out for the self righteous types - they're.
often the first to flip out.. the rest of us complained and got drunk - chased tail at witness 'get togethers'.
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Poll: Which is worse, Dubs or Morons???
by WingCommander injust a poll for today:.
which is worse, the j'dubs or the mormons (moroni)????
in my opinion both are pretty screwed in the head.
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nelly1
what it boils down to is, what does the creator want from us?? not any organised religion, nowhere in the bible does it say it has to be organised, all jesus did was sent our his apostles to tell people there was a better future than that under the yoke of the corrupt jewish religious leaders, and he didnt say to them right keep up the hours and pioneer I want you to pioneer and dont forget to put your report in the box and if u r a bad bad boy u will get publicly reproved and wont be able to answer at the meeting on sunday, or maybe i'l privately reprove you but you still cant answer or maybe if u really rreally bad youl get dissfellowshipped and you cant talk to me again until I say so.
think about it people, its not what its all about, god is a god of love, and he is the ONLY ONE WHO KNOWS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WEAKNESS AND WICKEDNESS, hes a reader of hearts we cant do that, so he is the best person to judge us, so at the end of the day the judging the saving and the destroying will be by him and only him at the hands of his wonderful son who was the most loving fair person that ever was, so no need to worry he has his finger on the pulse
love to all nelly
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What happened inbetween?
by freedom96 ini used to ask my elder dad: what about those who lived inbetween the bible days, and when the witnesses started?.
the wts teaches that no one will survive unless they are a witness.
they may dance around that issue with a "wordly" person, but, that really is the way they teach.. so we have the people talked about in the bible, and then we go until the very end of the 1800's.
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nelly1
you are so right i always used to think about that too, doesnt make sense does it? grrrrrrrrr
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What are they saying? Competition.
by dmouse inok, i was having a chuckle to myself this morning looking at this month's pictures on the jw calendar, which depicts the cheesy activities of the elders.
i was wondering if folks would like to suggest what they are actually saying on this picture: .
my suggestion is: .
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nelly1
oh boy oh boy that organisation is in a bigger mess than the catholics, only the catholics dont actively self righteously condemn other religions
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More Statistics - Even more to die at Armageddon!
by eyeslice init comes up time and again in the wts literature and meetings just how jehovah is patient and loving by allowing this system to go on, thus allowing more people to be saved.. but, the figures dont add up.. i know that witnesses dont really believe that baptism is being born again, but on the other hand, it is implied that those who are not baptized are in danger at armageddon.
this was brought out at this years dc, where young ones were urged to "seriously consider getting baptized".. .
i am aware that figures can be made to say anything but in the table below, i have attempted to look at the difference between physical births and "spiritual" births, i.e.
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nelly1
oh man you know what eye? we had a Co visit before i left and 3 times he said this in a talk and we had students in the audience, he said you must be a dedicated baptised person to enter into the new world and survive armageddon, I thought god what about the unbaptised publishers who are doing the same as baptised ones but technically arnt baptised, that is like saying jehovah is partial and he most certainly IS NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! that makes my blood boil with righteous indignation.
I remember ones in my cong getting annoyed about what he said and challenging him and you know what he reiterated that yes he believed they wouldnt make it unless they get baptised, you know why they want us baptised ?? because then they can hold judicial commitees on us whereas they dont have the authority if u r not so more control grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
love nelly
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some comforting thoughts
by nelly1 in.
i was thinking about jesus and how the bible says he is the exact representation of jehovahs very being, and u know what it is nothing like these awful so called christians, and i was thinking jesus himself had to abandon his own religion because its leaders were gross hypocrites and treating his sheep like dirt, so he left it and condemned it and he to as a result was severly shunned and u could say dissed in a form because they denounced him as having anything to do with jehovah if u remember, and he was persecuted also by these leaders just like the ones who leave the organisation today they too are persecuted by the so called true religion so it is coming further and more clear to me as days go by if we look further below the surface we see that he the only begotton son king of gods kingdom went through exactly what we are going through he was abused called a liar they said he was a seditionist the list goes on and he too had an illegal trial ( could be called a judicial) by the religious leaders of his day and his sentance was death, and we know that the jews were his chosen people we dont know that the wtbs is.!!!
!..now that i think about all this stuff it is such a comfort to me, as so many are experiencing illegal trials at the hands of the elders(pharissees) and i know this because i was one of them i had a illegal trial where lies were told just like poor jesus, so he of all people knows only too well what these dear brothers and sisters have suffered, and i beleive with all my heart that he will pay back to those ones they have no future, and one day we will have the happiness we deserve at his hand and anyone else who deserves to including all of you every last one whos heart is right and loves jesus and the creator, i know he will not forget any of us and what we have suffered, jesus was for the underdog not the high and mighty proud know it alls, so take heart and hang in there.... lots of love nelly
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nelly1
ps utpopian my dear friend yes get me a bucket and a straw with maybe some jack daniels in it that oughta do it LOL love you utopian xxxxxxxxxoooooooo
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some comforting thoughts
by nelly1 in.
i was thinking about jesus and how the bible says he is the exact representation of jehovahs very being, and u know what it is nothing like these awful so called christians, and i was thinking jesus himself had to abandon his own religion because its leaders were gross hypocrites and treating his sheep like dirt, so he left it and condemned it and he to as a result was severly shunned and u could say dissed in a form because they denounced him as having anything to do with jehovah if u remember, and he was persecuted also by these leaders just like the ones who leave the organisation today they too are persecuted by the so called true religion so it is coming further and more clear to me as days go by if we look further below the surface we see that he the only begotton son king of gods kingdom went through exactly what we are going through he was abused called a liar they said he was a seditionist the list goes on and he too had an illegal trial ( could be called a judicial) by the religious leaders of his day and his sentance was death, and we know that the jews were his chosen people we dont know that the wtbs is.!!!
!..now that i think about all this stuff it is such a comfort to me, as so many are experiencing illegal trials at the hands of the elders(pharissees) and i know this because i was one of them i had a illegal trial where lies were told just like poor jesus, so he of all people knows only too well what these dear brothers and sisters have suffered, and i beleive with all my heart that he will pay back to those ones they have no future, and one day we will have the happiness we deserve at his hand and anyone else who deserves to including all of you every last one whos heart is right and loves jesus and the creator, i know he will not forget any of us and what we have suffered, jesus was for the underdog not the high and mighty proud know it alls, so take heart and hang in there.... lots of love nelly
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nelly1
i know i know im terrible for that, when im writing and have lots to say, i tend to run off at a tangent, but that all came to me in a revelation while lying in my bed where i do my best thinking, awwww thank you brummie that made my day.
I just wanted to bring some comfort to you all, i had never thought that either about jesus before and then it just hit me, and you know what else???? Jehovah never dissaproved of how Jesus handled it he let them (PHAIRISEES) have it and called them offspring of vipers, which is a nice way of saying you pack of *&^%$$ a** holes LOLOLOL from what i can understand calling someone the offspring of a viper was a pretty nasty insult in those days, so u know we need not be so hard on ourselves because if our creator allowed his beloved son to condemn his so called chosen race and religion which was set up by jehovah himself given to moses, then we for sure can condemn any that claims to bear his name and does such dispicable acts of wickedness, HOLD UP YOUR HEADS YOU GUYS AND REMEMBER TO SAY "I ( INSERT NAME) LIKE AND BELEIVE IN MYSELF AND I AM IN CONTROL" now go say that to yourself in the mirror, and do it as many times as you can it builds you up and replaces the self esteem and feelings of empowerment that they took from you. LOVE AND HUGGGSS TO ALL OF YOU
NELLY
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some comforting thoughts
by nelly1 in.
i was thinking about jesus and how the bible says he is the exact representation of jehovahs very being, and u know what it is nothing like these awful so called christians, and i was thinking jesus himself had to abandon his own religion because its leaders were gross hypocrites and treating his sheep like dirt, so he left it and condemned it and he to as a result was severly shunned and u could say dissed in a form because they denounced him as having anything to do with jehovah if u remember, and he was persecuted also by these leaders just like the ones who leave the organisation today they too are persecuted by the so called true religion so it is coming further and more clear to me as days go by if we look further below the surface we see that he the only begotton son king of gods kingdom went through exactly what we are going through he was abused called a liar they said he was a seditionist the list goes on and he too had an illegal trial ( could be called a judicial) by the religious leaders of his day and his sentance was death, and we know that the jews were his chosen people we dont know that the wtbs is.!!!
!..now that i think about all this stuff it is such a comfort to me, as so many are experiencing illegal trials at the hands of the elders(pharissees) and i know this because i was one of them i had a illegal trial where lies were told just like poor jesus, so he of all people knows only too well what these dear brothers and sisters have suffered, and i beleive with all my heart that he will pay back to those ones they have no future, and one day we will have the happiness we deserve at his hand and anyone else who deserves to including all of you every last one whos heart is right and loves jesus and the creator, i know he will not forget any of us and what we have suffered, jesus was for the underdog not the high and mighty proud know it alls, so take heart and hang in there.... lots of love nelly
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nelly1
I was thinking about Jesus and how the bible says he is the exact representation of Jehovahs very being, and u know what it is nothing like these awful so called christians, and i was thinking Jesus himself had to abandon his own religion because its leaders were gross hypocrites and treating his sheep like dirt, so he left it and condemned it and he to as a result was severly shunned and u could say Dissed in a form because they denounced him as having anything to do with Jehovah if u remember, and he was persecuted also by these leaders just like the ones who leave the organisation today they too are persecuted by the so called true religion so it is coming further and more clear to me as days go by if we look further below the surface we see that he the only begotton son king of gods kingdom went through exactly what we are going through he was abused called a liar they said he was a seditionist the list goes on and he too had an illegal trial ( could be called a judicial) by the religious leaders of his day and his sentance was death, and we KNOW THAT THE JEWS WERE HIS CHOSEN PEOPLE WE DONT KNOW THAT THE WTBS IS.!!!!..now that i think about all this stuff it is such a comfort to me, as so many are experiencing illegal trials at the hands of the elders(pharissees) and i know this because i was one of them i had a illegal trial where lies were told just like poor Jesus, so he of all people knows only too well what these dear brothers and sisters have suffered, and i beleive with all my heart that he will pay back to those ones they have NO FUTURE, and one day we will have the happiness we deserve at his hand and anyone else who deserves to including all of you every last one whos heart is right and loves jesus and the creator, i know he will not forget any of us and what we have suffered, jesus was for the underdog not the high and mighty proud know it alls, so take heart and hang in there...
lots of love nelly
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Blessings, Superstitions ..and Bull$**t
by metatron input down your new world translation.. stop quoting your time- worn texts.. look at your life, for god's sake, mr. average witness!.
all this obedience and constricted living is supposed to get you blessings!.
i simply gave up - both as an elder and a long-time witness.
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nelly1
oh boy you are so right, i have a wordly friend that i have had for years and she is more loving than any of them could ever hope to be, and once i remember i had a bible student and her and I went out to dinner and shopping as a girls thing together as she and i had the same sense of humour and we had such fun, we both got a babysitter to watch our kids at the same time while we went and it was at her house, well who should call there on service but this elders daughter who is a right cow and my students 15 yr old son answered the door and this sister automatically assumed when she saw my daughter that he was babysitting her when in fact the adults were out the back, and this sis rushed to the CO and her father who was an elder and i was subsequently dragged into the creche the next day at the meeting and told off for associating with a worldy outside study time and for leaving my daugther with a 15 yr old boy!!!! man it takes the cake, they didnt even give me a chance to explain,
and as for telling me not to go places with my student oh man i couldnt beleive that, just blows the mind, good job she never found out, she never took to the truth thank goodness , she fell in love with an army officer she met and i encouraged her to find happiness so now shes with him, im glad i did, but u are so right in what u say, i used to get so tired going to meeting after meeting and the expense of going to assemblies and conventions all the time, it just wears me out, i remember being a single parent and going to conventions and being left to have lunch on our own with no one to talk to because my cong used to scatter and never ask us to join them, that was the loneliest time of my life and im so much a social person with a wicked sense of humour and in th world i attract alot of attention because im a very charasmatic person. but in the truth HELLLLLL NO!!! i was ignored and they were sooo jealous of me because they had personalities like dead ducks and if they were caught smiling i swear their faces would have cracked.
but now i have friends in the world and oh what a difference even x jw friends who are so sweet, and the org teaches us hooooowwww nasty the x jw apostates are so wicked in fact u should be more scared of them than u should of a dangerous mass murderer, i could write a book for all the times that that organisation made me feel unloved unwanted depressed lonely, you know i had to be single for 14 yrs because i never even met 1 available single brother, it was so darn frustrating, and when i found one i liked he played me like a violin then threw me away like trash he was such a player, liked to make me think he was interested then humilate me, when i could have found a nice partner in the world and been happy for those years, and u know no one cares there was not even 1 social occasion in all my 13 years in the truth in my congregation, yet we are not meant to associate with worldly non jw ppl, so i spent many years looking at my 4 walls when i was at home and not working, that was such a lonely time in my life i hated it.
and for my poor children who grew up in it with no little friends to play with only their mom and now at the end of all this my poor daughter is struggling to make friends in the world, for yrs she asked to go on the school and this poor excuse for a christian elder said no then when she finally got off and he decided to lie about me to a judicial commitee he promptly took her off after only 1 week till her talk was due to be given, her little heart broke. i wanted to kill him.
but there is so much more to say and not enough volumes to fill
so maybe next time il vent more with more horror stories to share
thanks for that tho metatron its very empowering to read others ideas and be able to relate to them
nelly
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How would you answer?
by sunshineToo ini hate hearing, "you left jehovah?
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i get angry.
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nelly1
no kelsey but i think if they wanted to they would give it a jolly good go grrrr