Posts by nelly1

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As A JW How Did (Do) You Get Over ...

by SpannerintheWorks in

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everywhere i go at the moment, ...it's christmas!.

constant "reminders" - the shops, the tv, the magazines, the newspapers... .

whilst you were still a jw, how did you manage to get through it all?

nelly1

you hit the nail on the head, its all about time with family, i agree thats what i missed the most,not all the pagan stuff, altho i miss the food and the social times, instead me and my kids spent 13 yrs all alone at christmas time, and beleive me the witnesses didnt compensate, theyd have their little clicky gatherings and we wernt invited, because i was a sole parent and not connected so to speak, and they didnt want kids around

in this org, there is no love, no caring, i was just a robot going to meetings, going to service on and on... what a waste....

love to all

nelly

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How the West sacrifices the rest

by expatbrit in

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sometimes you can only shake your head:us blocks cheap drugs agreement.

the united states has blocked an international agreement to allow poor countries to buy cheap drugs.

one-hundred and forty-three countries stood on the same ground, we were hoping to make that unanimous.

nelly1

my boss who died nearly 2 years ago was an appeal judge for the WTO, he would have fixed all that he was a kind man...

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seeing as we woke up??

by nelly1 in

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seeing as most of us now realise that the organisation is not what it claims to be, then i was thinking what is mathew 24 verse 14 refering to?

and i dunno what to think other than satan has used this organisation to mislead millions but he used this one the most, as its easy to see that the catholics etc made huge bobo's but the truth was disguised to be the one and only true religion and many were fooled, i know i was for 13 yrs.

although things happened and i just brushed it off as imperfection.

nelly1

seeing as most of us now realise that the organisation is not what it claims to be, then i was thinking what is mathew 24 verse 14 refering to? and I dunno what to think other than satan has used this organisation to mislead millions but he used this one the most, as its easy to see that the catholics etc made huge bobo's but the truth was disguised to be the one and only TRUE religion and many were fooled, i know i was for 13 yrs. although things happened and i just brushed it off as imperfection.

but look at how they controled us it was very very clever and cunning scheme and very effective,even down to communicating with any other cong u might move to so that you never got away with anything, its like all corrupt organisations the higher you get the more corrupt it gets its par for the course, I beleive that satan wouldnt be doing his job properly if he wasnt successful in misleading those who have good hearts........it was pointed out to me that most good people who were witnesses had hard lives and difficult backgrounds and were drawn to the promise of family brotherhood and love...... just the same as gangs do to attract members, preying on the vulnerable..... i know because i was such a vulnerable person at the time. I sat there all those years and in the last 3 I knew something was seriously wrong, as i didnt seem to get the same treatment as elders families MS families etc etc...... in other words i wasnt in the elite group.....and like someone else said they throw all that sickening love stuff at u when you study but as soon as the honeymoon baptism period is over then look out,ignoring you becomes the order of the day , unless of course you are bringing in new recruits by the droves.....hard to try to make sense of it all although one or two have posted here who have said things that I relate too so much its like we all seeing it through the same glasses with the same perceptions that has to count for something as we as humans all perceive differently.

food for thought??

love u all

nelly

Edited by - nelly1 on 19 December 2002 21:2:9

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What Double Standards Do JW's Practice?

by minimus in

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one double standard that always got to me was how a body of elders would talk about how a brother needed to "qualify" for some privilege by being a good example for weekend service and yet a number of elders would hardly ever go out in field service at all!

or how they would use 2 hours to literally gossip about everyone in the congregation, and then give a local needs talk on the need of not talking about the brothers and minding our own business.........what double standards got to you?

nelly1

You read examples in almost every WT publication about how "love" motivates JWs to help, encourage and support one another through various crises. When it happens to you, unless you're a study progressing toward baptism (and therefore a subject of 'love-bombing') or an elder/ pioneer/ ministerial servant/ or one of their family members, you are up Sh!ts Creek without a paddle. As a matter of fact, if something bad happens to you, you are blamed for somehow being at the root of the problem anyway. You get told that the solution to the problem is to go out in service, attend all the meetings and pray more.

Also, the way JWs brag about how they are the MOST honest people on the planet. Yet they espouse the doctrine of Theocratic War Strategy, which allows them to only be truthful with those who "deserve" honesty.

Those are the two biggest examples of hypocrisy, IMO.

ohh boy scully are you ever right!!!!! u hit the nail right on the head mate.......grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr after i read all that is done to people in their name i want to screaaaaaaaaaaaaaaammmmmmmmmmm!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! that poor brother with the cerebral palsy etc bless him, our god will reward him greatly for what happened to him and all others who have suffered i feel sooooo sad and so angry , sheesh hard to have those two emotions at once, lately i feel like i want to slap the elders in my cong and all other pple who do this stuff....... sorry i just get soooooooo mad........

i love u all

nelly

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Overseer's Visit & Hypocrisy

by JH in

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why is it that when the overseer visits the congregation, that just about everybody shows up to the meetings and they all go in the field service?

a whole week of endless zeal just to prove that they are all so spiritual.

is gone, they all come back to normal.

nelly1

its called coming out of the woodwork darling and beleive me it happens everywhere, i have seen it myself, what a bunch of ass lickers huh? blehhhhhhhh

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nightmares and anxiety

by nelly1 in

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does anyone here have nightmares about the witnesses after leaving, i seem to be having alot lately, and i cant stand banging into them they terrify me.

like if i think i see a person who looks like someone in my cong, and its not just looks like them i have a panic attack.......... im wondering because that is not normal for me...

nelly1

thank you all so much for the encouragement, and you too dede, i dont know if u remember me i used to chat to you in about.com when you were still a witness, we missed you when it shut down, how is rotty and the kids? e mail me sometime and we can catch up.......hugss

thank you all im glad to know im not the only one, it was starting to worry me that id have these panic sessions in a supermarket its soooo not like me...im not shy or anything, but what they did to me has left terrible emotional and mental scars on me and i think thats why im like that but thanks all of u...

love to all nelly

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nightmares and anxiety

by nelly1 in

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does anyone here have nightmares about the witnesses after leaving, i seem to be having alot lately, and i cant stand banging into them they terrify me.

like if i think i see a person who looks like someone in my cong, and its not just looks like them i have a panic attack.......... im wondering because that is not normal for me...

nelly1

does anyone here have nightmares about the witnesses after leaving, I seem to be having alot lately, and i cant stand banging into them they terrify me. like if i think i see a person who looks like someone in my cong, and its not just looks like them I have a panic attack......... is that normal and does anyone else experience that? is it a sign of post traumatic stress?

im wondering because that is not normal for me...

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What the WT took from me.. is it gone 4ever?

by LyinEyes in

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i was raised jw, so i have nothing to go back to as far as belief.

the wt has been exposed to me as nothing but a bunch of lies, coverups, failed predictions, interpreting the bible to fit their teachings etc.

now i stand here,,,,,,,,,,,, with no belief system at all.

nelly1

you are so right utopian, i understand what everyone else is saying too, and like utopian i have not long stopped going to meetings but it was friends who are still in ho told me things,

and then this board that helped me see what is really going on and helped me to make some sense of the craziness that was happening to me at the hands of my so called friends at my hall, and the elders who so mercilessly treated me with no semblance of a concience, heartless is a goodword.

they are like robots, I think it all started ocuring to me when our PO"s daughter ran off with a DF lesbian, she was 22 the other was 40 and I already knew that that sister was having an affair with her roomate who was also a witness I am very perceptive, but i said to a sister the week before those too are lesbian she said noooooooooooooo they r not and that is slander I said u mark my words and watch, sure enough a week later that PO's daughter left the roomate lover DA herself and ran off with the 40 yr old.. from that day my blinders started coming off and that cong went down hill like a rolling snowball....

the elders got cold and acted like robots whatever smidgen of kindness or love that was ever there dissapeared faster than a speeding bullet ( not that i ever experienced any love) from any of them...

but my gutt which runs like a well oiled machine was screaming at me something is wrong this went on for 2 yrs even though i never did anything about it, the elders got worse the gossip got worse the meaness to me and others got worse, till in the end they turned up the heat on me just a humble single parent trying to do her best even though she was ignored

dede I totally understand where you are coming from, and I think all here have gone or are going through what you are, I for one certainly am.. greif, dissolusionment, mistrust, horror, anger, hurt, confusion, fear, anxiety................the llist goes on and on, i do still beleive in god and what his word says but i beleive that he will save individuals not a group as a whole, he cant not after what is going on now in the society it is tooo corrupt, his word says he will uncover things done in the dark and he has.

we need each other to comfort each other and that is what we do here, he knows our pain, and yes like one other person said we should be thankful we are not rumaging for food in a dump and starving, there is always someone worse off than you.....i always say when in a crisis" oh well it could be worse" then i feel better it really helps me..............but remember the creator knows what they did and i tell u i wouldnt want to be in their shoes after what they did to all of us, we were jesus sheep and you know what he said about stummbling one of us, and it aint nice....so u hang in there and take one day at a time dede, and the rest of u too

huggssss love nelly

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Evil CO's wives

by PopeOfEruke in

does anyone remember particularly evil wives of circuit overseers?.

i remember one, a little chinese "lady" known as norma.

absolutely hated kids.

nelly1

ohh man dont start me off, we had one ohh man she was a nutter, we were on service once and her and i were sitting in the car and she said ohh i bought a CD the other day classical music but i had to smash it because it had an organ on the first track and i dont want a demon attack..

I remember thinking ohh gimme a break just cuz its an organ and they use organs in churches ohh PLEEEEEEEEAAAAAASSSSSSSSSEEEEEEE

I remember the gossip going around from whomever had that co and his wife to stay during visits, that the wife was weird because she was compulsive about things and would clean out peoples cuboards till they were her standard and shed hide her suitcase under the bed clothes and she was so fanatical about food one day she sat at someones house for lunch and picked all her vegetables out of her soup and piled them onto a plate, and apparently the nose gets out of joint if you dont have chocolate biscuits( cookies) in the house, I tell u this couple were so unbalanced that they kept thinking everything was a demon attack, this co's wife had a serious speech impediment and when she spoke she sprayed so much that drought use to break in ethiopia im not kidding, people use to make jokes and say her name and eccentualte the last part of her name by making a hissing snake sound...

and her husband was the one who yelled at me right in the hall in front of everyone, i cant stand them, but what goes around cuz not long after he had 2 heart attacks and had to come off the circuit and now needs a bypass.....what a shaaaaaaaaaaaaammmmmmmmmmmeeeeeeee

he was going through the circuit removing elders like they were warts off of someones hands... caused a terrible stir and gave him the nik name " mac the knife" i bet a few of u maybe from here would know who i mean......ugh i cant stand him....

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Don't Accept Witness Rudeness!

by metatron in

a lot of what elders ( and others) ask is just plain rude and you should tell.

i've informed elders that 'inquisitions and interrogations are unchristian.

and rude'.. imagine people showing up uninvited at your home, asking questions about your private.

nelly1

i had the dreaded visit, and it took them 3 months and you know what i said? " i dont want to talk about that" and they couldnt say anything i then said but u have a nice day byee and i shut the door, if you think about it what can they say to u if u say that???? nothing, and if they keep talking just keep saying i dont want to talk about that.... and in the end they have to leave, i guarantee they wont bother after that, theres nothing they can do