Posts by Slavenomore

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Rebuttals:"Wait on Jehovah"

by Emery in

ok i think most of you at some point have come across the apologetic saying "wait on jehovah" from jws whenever an injustice occurs in the organization.

many have also used this expression to abandon evidence against the "truth".

this has easily become one of my biggest pet peeves now since speaking to others about ttatt.

It's the same old canard...the missionaries and priest told the enslaved 3rd world workers living in utter poverty and oppression that their reward is in heaven! The Dalit class in India are told to work harder and wait til reincarnation. The Christians are told to carry their cross. All the while the elite religionists, industrialists and politicians get richer and more powerful. Religion is indeed a thought stopping opiate.

On the other hand, what if there was serious financial corruption and/or fraud or the appearance of which going down in the corporation that jws worship? Jesus was quick to denounce the money changers and unscrupulous profiteers. Jesus didn't wait for His daddy to change that. if people are supposed to walk in his footsteps then why not make a fuss. Start with the RBC and "relief" work scam.

So that might be an angle to interrupt the thought stopping crappola of "wait on daddy".

Just a thought

Slavenomore

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JW's like when tragic events the Boston bombing happen.

by El_Guapo in

jw
friends

so i get a text message this morning from an elder (also an old friend) from my hall.

(mind you i haven't been to meetings in months) he says the following:.

elder: did you hear about what happend in bos?

Slavenomore

I can just feel the love oozing from his self confirmation...good response EG! It honestly makes me sick to think i was a part of this mind control. It's just so f..king exciting seeing blood and gore o the streets. Is it? They would get a warm amen from the Westboro baptist church...those pagans had it coming to them. Did they? Meanwhile back at the ranch this guy has no problems touting the street creed of a pedophile protecting cult which gets all excited about innocents being killed. But then again they are just reflecting the "love" of the genocidal maniac they worship...that we also worshipped before being unplugged...who has promised to do much worse...

Makes me feel ashamed.

This elduhs moral and ethical and compassionate meter at zero and still going down.

Sorry for the rant, but this attitude just infuriates me....ahhhhhgh...

Slavenomore

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I need some serious advice...

by confusedteenager in

jw
friends

i'm almost a year out of high school and of course, i'm not in college.

i'm a pioneer (sigh) with little to no work experience and having a really hard time finding any work.

i want to go back to college, but it's going to be difficult now that i'm a pioneer, and my parents cannot really afford the loans that will incur should i pursue going to college.

Slavenomore

CT, sounds like you are on the right track by asking questions now. Definitely good advice has been given to you. Take it...a 2 year college that has an agreement with a 4 year university to accept the credits you will get there would be a good short term/medium term goal. To have credits transferred will save you money and time later on good luck in your decision. pioneering will not help you and your future at all. I pioneered for 7 years biggest waste of my life I.e. Don't believe the hype. Believe in yourself and take comfor you are not alone, for many have walked down this path. slavenomore

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My View and Bobby Dylan's View of AntiWatchtower Special Groups

by Band on the Run in

jw
friends

my computer crashed so i am not fully informed of the recent antiwatchtower organization.

i must vent, however.

perhaps i am the only one on the face of the earth (or the entire universe) but i found cedar's opening announcement insulting.

Slavenomore

Bob Dylan's song subterranean homesick blues was quoted "don't follow leaders" it's the closest Dylan came to rap.

No matter what happens with whatever group or groups the multi billion dollar WTBT$ is here for the long long long term. So instead of using the revolutionary war(over in a short time 5-6 years) as an analogy I think the star wars trilogy is a more apt comparison. My point though with the OP is asymmetric warfare conducted by washingtons troops were exactly that conducted, ie lead by him, the leader and his control became more and more apparent as he turned his farmer/warriors into a legitimate army capable of attacking another legitimate army. The terrorist style ambush attacks were for the most part accomplished in the beginning of the fight before organization took root. And I would argue that without said organization it never would have been successful. He also needed a lot of diplomacy to get the French on board in fighting the British as they had a lot to lose being geographically closer. But as I said before in the end it was pure luck. If the British ships came with supplies and men as Cornwallis expected Washington would have lost...if it wasnt for king George's dementia...

Thus it would be better to think about working together supporting all causes to attack the common enemy. Thus the expression an enemy of my enemy is my friend.

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My View and Bobby Dylan's View of AntiWatchtower Special Groups

by Band on the Run in

jw
friends

my computer crashed so i am not fully informed of the recent antiwatchtower organization.

i must vent, however.

perhaps i am the only one on the face of the earth (or the entire universe) but i found cedar's opening announcement insulting.

Slavenomore

Interesting since we are mentioning Washington. He had joined forces with the French in the final battle of Yorktown. Two army's two different styles fighting together but in the end the dual army assault got lucky. But they worked together. However, in spite of any strategy, it might just come down to one jury member.

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My View and Bobby Dylan's View of AntiWatchtower Special Groups

by Band on the Run in

jw
friends

my computer crashed so i am not fully informed of the recent antiwatchtower organization.

i must vent, however.

perhaps i am the only one on the face of the earth (or the entire universe) but i found cedar's opening announcement insulting.

Slavenomore

Band on the run,

...watch your parking meters...

Although I don't have a dog in the race, and I think that, personally, the more groups the merrier, and to quote Rodney king "why can't we all just get along"...why does one anti watchtower group diminish another or vice versa? Two candles are brighter than one. And perhaps you were overlooked, as I am sure many revolutionaries were during the war. As I am sure it didn't go without notice that the so called leaders during the revolution, as I am sure you are aware, whittled there time away in monarchist France while the patriots were on the frontlines. But both groups were responsible for bringing about the needed changes we benefit from today. And when really was there any real change anywhere without a strong charismatic leader(s) willing to stick his or her neck out for the "cause".

Organization by itself is not necessarily wrong or bad. For an organization to really work you need workers and leaders willing to work. Looking at cedars website and his accomplished missions of surveys does it not show that for him at least there has been proven results? Although I'm not familiar with others except grundys and Anderson's work, again proven results Why not wait and see what the results will be. Like Dylan said

If you got nothing you got nothing to lose...

Slavenomore

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Your worst convention experience.

by zeb in

by a split second rescuing our handicapped son from being pushed down the stairs by a flood of sisters rushing out to see as the drama had started.. the main offender being a special pioneer..

Slavenomore

I couldn't for the life of figure out the excitement aroused by the DCs?! Probably cognitive dissonance kicking in to make the elduhs and dubs feel better about sitting in an echo chamber on hard plastic seats bored out of their gourd. Then again it's like what Steve Hassan says just a yearly reindoctrination! I would sum up all DCs I attended at the Syracuse war memorial, blue cross Rochester and lastly the concrete tomb of Wachovia arena in wilkesbarre as painful memories. Although eating out at fine Thai restaurants with good friends, of which i still have today, made me happy!

From reading hassans book I think that the repetition and ritual at the DCs promoted a hypnotic trance like state to effectively stop thinking and thus be programmed to feel spiritually superior and enlightened. I felt bad for families with small children, what a struggle they had.

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New here, well, sort of...

by L3G in

been lurking here for years but finally decided to come out, at least partially.

of all things, the post of 'bats in the belfry' re: the supposed break up of gb member geoffrey jackson and his cute (ex-?

) fiancee a few days ago spurred me to do so.

Slavenomore

L3G,

Welcome!

Its like cat and mouse

They will get tired of you in time as long as you don't give them anything to feed on. Elduhs get tired and bored after a while dealing with unresponsive ones. Often they will not put that much effort into reactivating someone as they will stomping out the dreaded scourge of apostasy. Even the word will fill an elders meeting full of spine tingly holy spirit turning even the meeker one into spear slinging Jehu. You must have had a good effect on the Congo and they just want you back...if only they knew the truth of it, then they would run to the hills

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New here.

by joe134cd in

hi everyone.i have been reading the blogs here for some time and have just decided to have an in put.

i am still a current member of the wts and am sort of planning to fade.

i realise 2 things (1)i have to build bridges in order to replace the ones that will crumble behind.

Slavenomore

Joe,

Great job in awakening. You will look back at this moment in your life one day and see a true demarcation line of when freedom begins. Keep reading people's experiences on here, it helped me to know I'm not alone, in fact it is often said there are more who have left the org then in, and I think you are beginning to see why. Warm welcome.

Slavenomore

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THE REAL REASON WHY THE WATCHTOWER NEVER WRITES ABOUT ISLAM OR MUSLIMS IS FEAR!

by ÁrbolesdeArabia in

for a religion that claims to be "fearless and bold" the watchtower has avoided writing about islam and muslim practices and how they are part of babylon the great.

the attacks on christendom are not a bold move because the "tower" and "gb" know the christian church is not going to send a suicide bomber into a kingdom or district convention.

it's not fair to christendom to receive all the hate speech from the "leaning tower of brooklyn", why don't they write the truth about islam?

Slavenomore

Jehovah Akbar