Great idea to get her to the counsellor. Never underestimate the ability of a child to protect the organization, though. I hope she finds a counsellor who understands high control religions and undue influence.
Great job, Dad.
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I got half custody!
by outsmartthesystem inso it has been quite a while since i've last been on this site.
the jist of my story is that about 5 years ago, i started a research journey that took me 2 1/2 years to complete.
against the advice of this board, i decided to show my wife because i mistakenly thought she valued truth.
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I got half custody!
by outsmartthesystem inso it has been quite a while since i've last been on this site.
the jist of my story is that about 5 years ago, i started a research journey that took me 2 1/2 years to complete.
against the advice of this board, i decided to show my wife because i mistakenly thought she valued truth.
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GrreatTeacher
Congratulations on you custody win. It seems the courts really have a problem with alienating behavior. I'm sure you are documenting all overt examples. But, what about covert alienating behaviors? Do you think this has just driven your ex wife's behavior underground?
I'm glad you have had good success with your youngest and hope your oldest makes great strides soon, too.
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Be nice to theists - they are victims of their genes
by cofty inidentical twin studies show there is a strong inheritable component to religiosity.
thomas bouchard studied identical and fraternal twins raised apart and tested them on religious attitudes.. the correlation for the former turned out to be 62% compared to just 2% for the latter.
his colleague.
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In the nature vs. nurture debate very rarely can you completely control for one or the other. Monozygotic (identical) twins allows science to completely control for the nature portion because they have the exact same genetic code.
So,the remainder of the behavior would be a function of nurture, right? Not so fast, because twins are raised in the same environment. So, finding a pair of identical twins (same nature) raised in a different environment (different nurture) would allow us to draw the conclusion that similarities of behavior would be a function of the similarities of nature (in this case the identical genome). The environment (they grew up in different homes) would, in this case not be a cause of similarity at all since it is completely different.
Straight causation would need a 100% similarity of behavior rate ( in this case, religiosity). In this case, there was a 62% similarity of religiosity behavior. Is this significant? Yes, because no correlation at all would be 0%, and this is very nearly the statistic found (2%) in the case of fraternal twins raised apart. They had different nature (genes) and nurture ( environment.
So, we can conclude that there is a 62% correlation between genes and religiosity. Statistically speaking, this is a strong positive correlation.
However, this leaves room for other factors as well.
This is why the natural experiment of identical twins raised apart gives us tremendous insight into the relative amounts of nature and nurture that cause certain human behaviors.
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Just ask simple questions and make street witnesses move along
by OnTheWayOut inyou don't have to know much to talk to jw's and show them they don't want to really discuss the matters.they consider a discussion on the matter they are pushing to be "confrontational.".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfw_txpmsj8.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lqtadagucq.
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GrreatTeacher
The JW in the first video actually seemed like a nice guy.
The one in the second video seemed like a condescending, holier-than-thou, pompous ass. He has a great future in the organization.
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what type of faith do you REALLY want?
by atheist_R_stupid ini find that when talking people who say they "used to be a jehovah's witness" they say words that show they have in fact, never been one.
it's like a man that worked for the post office for 30 years in a main major urban hub like chicago or new york... and you ask him, "in your last position, what was your rdo?
" and the man says "whats an rdo?".
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Good for you working indoors now, truthseeker! I always wondered at the irony of the term Inside Wireman! -
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what type of faith do you REALLY want?
by atheist_R_stupid ini find that when talking people who say they "used to be a jehovah's witness" they say words that show they have in fact, never been one.
it's like a man that worked for the post office for 30 years in a main major urban hub like chicago or new york... and you ask him, "in your last position, what was your rdo?
" and the man says "whats an rdo?".
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You certainly would call yourself a Journeyman in the US, as in Journeyman Wiremen. It's all over the IBEW Journal. You might also say you are a Master electrician if you've passed the Master's test. This distinction does come up on the job.
If you are an apprentice, you might call the electrician you are working under your Mechanic.
Sometimes you might "pull a nooner" (leave at lunch), "get some gook" (skim some copper wire off of the job to resell), or even "drag up" (quit), and "go get your money" (collect your wages up until the last moment you've worked).
You might need a "pair of dykes" (small diagonal cutters for snipping small wires), but your company may have realized how offensive the term is and banned its use, especially if there are women on the job.
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Lets pretend jw's disappeared
by atheist_R_stupid inand joined your ranks.... this means...youre talking about a people, that currently are pushing no sex till marriage.
that would end and join into the messages you currently push regarding youths and sex.
that would be sex, with condoms.
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GrreatTeacher
If JWs disappeared, nothing would change appreciably in the world. They are a tiny drop in the bucket of world population.
They just hold outsize influence in their own minds.
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Why are the Jesus people so obsessed with spreading their message?
by fulltimestudent inare they fearful that they are mistaken, so they must argue with everyone, and try to prove all otehr religions wrong, but their's right?.
i'm not talking about the well-known jw persistence, in which we all once shared.. i'm talking about nearly all brands of christianity, the witnesses and their other branded counterparts.
here are two incidents to demonstrate.. a week or so back, i read in a chinese newspaper of a complaint by two tibetan buddhist women in the city of xining, qinghai province, in western china.
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I think I would've called that lady on her rudeness, FTS.
I remember feeling uncomfortable preaching and now I know I was uncomfortable because I was being rude.
I wish people had been honest and would've just told me I was being rude.
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Why Do Atheists Struggle So Much Against God Who Supposedly Doesn't Exist?
by Perry inan athist made this casual statememt on another thread:.
this would suggest to me that there are at least some atheists that do have consistant beliefs.. .
as an atheist, how could he possibly trust the reason that suggests this to himself?
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"Hello? Perry? Perry? Hello?"
The line has gone dead...
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Should I attend Kingdom Hall meetings to discreetly "preach"?
by CrytoJesus inchristians, should i attend kingdom hall meetings to discreetly "preach" to jws about the real jesus and the lies of the watchtower?.
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i plan to go undercover and plant seeds into them.. .
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GrreatTeacher
The reason this man thought you were attacking him is that Witnesses have poor boundaries and a permeable sense of self.
In their eyes, God and their Organization are the same. They also sometimes mix themselves in there as "servants of God's Organization."
They also have poor boundaries with other JWs since they are all servants of Jehovah. Then this extends to those that the preach to.
Watch. You may have to defend your personal boundaries. Personally, I think that asking a perfect stranger to give you their phone number is a boundary violation.