Posts by GrreatTeacher

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So I woke up and Trump was president

by notalone in

so i live in the u.s. i had family that lived in germany when hitler came to power.

i had family that was in london during the blitz.

being raised as a witness i was obsessed with everything having to do with the rise of the nazis.

GrreatTeacher

It's on Reuters. I'm trying to paste on my tablet and I'm having trouble.

I'm going to try again.

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So I woke up and Trump was president

by notalone in

so i live in the u.s. i had family that lived in germany when hitler came to power.

i had family that was in london during the blitz.

being raised as a witness i was obsessed with everything having to do with the rise of the nazis.

GrreatTeacher

Warm congratulations today to the new president-elect from Vladamir Putin, and the French National Front.

No joke.

That actually happened.

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KH for sale--Ryde --isle of Wight--UK

by stan livedeath in

sheer joy.. the local kingdumb hall is up for sale.

a quick build from 1984. i went in there once--for a relative's wedding.

half a million pounds.. http://www.rightmove.co.uk/commercial-property-for-sale/property-44198850.html.

GrreatTeacher

Surprised they're giving it up seeing as it's so close to McDonald's.

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2016 death of my father who told me don't come back if your a Witness...still hurts my soul! Warning you all!!

by Witness 007 in

i last spoke to my father in march 1990. we finished a "quick build" kingdom hall and i had a 17 year old spiritual awakening and decided to drop high school to pioneer full time.

(yes i was a dumb ass) he was not happy since my parents were divorced he was catholic.

we had a arguement and he said stay in school get a degree...and dont come back if your a witness!!

GrreatTeacher

Thank you for sharing, Witness007.

My mother still speaks to me, but always tries to squeeze in a little preaching.

Sometimes I get frustrated at "being the bigger person" and not taking the bait.

But, it's cautionary stories like yours that help me stifle the urge to blow it all up and tell her what I really think.

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a random thought occurred to me today.. i actually feel genuinely sorry for witnesses who cut contact with ones they feel are no longer "spiritual" .. they do this based not on anything that the person has actually done to them personally, but due to an imposed view from the society.. it must play havoc with their inner conscience as they try and reconcile that the person they cut off has not actually done anything to harm them, but they have to view them as evil.. it reminded me of this thread i started some time back.

https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5751633187176448/all-my-friends-organisation.

GrreatTeacher

I think that they are aware on some level that it is wrong and they feel bad about it. But, they are also secretly pleased that something that feels so bad and wrong is justified so they can feel just fine about behaving badly.

It almost enables sociopathy. I imagine it attracts quite a few. Finally, doing bad things is perfectly okay, in fact, righteous!

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Pyramid Schemes

by schnell in

several years ago, i was introduced to a "wonderful" company called fortune hi tech marketing by a brother and his wife.

they had been introduced by a former sheriff who claims he had researched the company and found no leins or judgments, and that former sheriff had been brought in by a pastor.

you can read what happened with fhtm on wikipedia if you so desire.. this whole new idea of multilevel marketing had my brain reeling, though, and soon enough, i actually signed up with none other than prepaid legal.

GrreatTeacher

If you have some time, look at the website Pink Truth which exposes Mary Kay cosmetics.

Just a tiny percentage of recruits ever make the money promise, and it's not because you didnt work hard enough, as they'll tell you, but because the business can't support all the thousands of consultants that they keep recruiting.

In fact, it's usually a losing proposition in which the recruits actually spend more money than they ever make.

It's a clever expose of a supposedly "respected" home party plan (MLM) business.

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If the GB changed a major teaching, would all witnesses just go along with it?

by stuckinarut2 in

so if the gb changed its "bible based beliefs" on some teaching, would witnesses all of a sudden change their individual beliefs too?.

witnesses like to claim that "their bible trained hearts and minds" make them believe as they do, but we know that the reality is that all witnesses hold their "deep seated beliefs" according to what they have been told to believe.. so what would cause the average witness to question those that dictate their "personal convictions"??.

thoughts?.

GrreatTeacher

Oh, yes, even if it wasn't practical from a human standpoint, they would go along with it.

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What Comes After the Watchtower Collapse?

by schnell in

i was going to put this in my thread about pyramid schemes, but i thought it's discreet enough to warrant its own.

1) there are many faithful jws.

2) there are many men and women who could take control and fill the void if the watchtower collapses.

GrreatTeacher

These kinds of schemes keep popping up because there are buyers out there.

Something could be exposed as totally a fraud, but others keep popping up because there are plenty of people who are in the market for cultic religions and multi-level marketing schemes.

It sucks, but there is a certain percentage of people who are so disposed.

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Lost and Sad, Then He Found Me...

by Sorry in

well, i got myself in a dilemma.

i'm currently 18, being baptised for a year.

i had my doubts, but due to a variety of reasons (getting subtle flack for not baptised, not having a support system even if i wanted to leave).

GrreatTeacher

You are going to lose something.

THis is not a pain-free situation, including your life right now. You are in distress trying to have everything, and you will not be able to keep it all.

NOw, after having just been brutally honest, I will tell you I chose the boy and we have been together over 2 decades.

My parents and I have a "cordial," but somewhat strained relationship. Fortunately, my sister and brother all eventually left, too, and are free of the bullshite.

Try to fade or don't try to fade, but know thyself, first. What kinds of distress can you tolerate; losing your family of origin? Losing your mind living a JW life? Losing a person who might (or might not) turn out to be the best thing that has ever happened to you?

Choose what you can stand to lose, but understand; there will be pain involved. Nobody gets out of this cult pain-free.

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Canada - Macleans article, Oct. 28, 2016: A Jehovah’s Witness and her deadly devotion

by AndersonsInfo in

http://www.macleans.ca/news/a-jehovahs-witness-and-her-deadly-devotion/.

a jehovah’s witness and her deadly devotion.

did a jehovah’s witness die after refusing a blood transfusion, and should the state have let it happen?.

GrreatTeacher

The Hospital Liason Committee are vultures.

I've seen them in action several times.