in a minimus moment, i find myself interested in knowing which buzz-words and phrases in jw publications stand out the most to you?
when i read wt literature, i constantly find myself astounded by how transparently cultish the language is.
in an earlier, unrelated thread, i said the following: .
we must PRESS ON!!!!!!!!!!!
first it was kingdom misistry, then changed to kingdom servic, went back to kindom ministry..then in that kingdom ministry we were supposed to check up on our back calls, but that got changed to return visits.
then we were told how to do incidental witnesseing,,,,,oooops that got changed too to informal
OHHHHHHHHH I AM SOOOOOOO CONFUSED>>>>>>BUT I MUST PRESS ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i have noticed on past threads from posters from other countries than the usa that they would be hanging out in pubs and such while still jw's.
in the us i believe that going to bars would pretty much be a df/da offense.
in other countries is the policy different?
This subject kind of goes along with some others such as tattoos and r rated movies. In some areas they are so frowned upon but really are conscience matters.
I have found though when you really start reading the magazsines with a diff view that they will state that things are a conscience matter but then the following paragraphs pretty much try to make your conscince up for you.
they will state that going to bars etc. are a conscience matter however we need to see how others wil view us IF they see us there and will we stumble someone by our conscientious decisions......
I think they need to concentrate a little more on allowing people to use that conscience they way the feel is ok with them and tell others not to get so offended instead of making us all feel guilty if we do decide to do something that is a conscience matter even if others think it is bad.
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i understand from talking to some one who had some knowledge of the situation but could not find the reference material , that the society has something in writing which says if a person believes they are scripturally free and that they are willing to stand before jehovah and face the consquences they can get married -- (this in effect leave the elders out of the equation and they can not do anything to you.
) does anyone know where this reference can be found -- i need it as soon as possible.
i can not find it.
Dont let this article fool you. This is where you find out just how NON unified they really are.I know someone who admitted to three witnesses (NON elders) about adultry. Since this person would not admit to elders They were told based on that same article that they were not free.
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i thought this might be a fun "fluff" thread.
someone posted the other day that marc anthony (the singer) is their cousin.
i have done extensive genealogy research so i know a few famous relatives.
I was related by marraige, but since I am now divorced only my kids are related to (don't know the correct spelling) Byrl Ives....the guy who said EVERYTHING was edible and was on the grapenuts commercials....They are also related to some old famous baseball player but since I dont know crap about sports I cant remember his name...I know it began with an L.......lol
my mother was born and raised in Germany, came to USA when she was 18. I never knew any of her 8 brothers and sisters so I dont know who I am reelated to over there.
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i was 15, quite old compared to some.. a friends child has just got baptised at 13.....to think that she knows what she wants for the rest of her life at that age seems ludicrous.. so, who here got baptised at the youngest age?.
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it was July4th 1975.......I was 15.....actually for being the day we should all remember as the best day in our lives, I can only remember it becasue it was on that horrible nationalistic holiday of July 4th....and my kids were baptised even younger I am so agrivated about this subject.they shouldnt let children get baptised. if they are following Jesus example he was NOT a chld.
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i am interested to know whether jw's or ex jw's on this board really did believe 100%.
did you have doubts all of the time, did you have some confusion or did you never doubt at all?
i recognise that most on this board will have had doubts at the end but was this always the case when you were a good dub?
I believed everything and treated some in a way I am so ashamed of now. you just tow the line but when they flat out lie to me and change the scriptures that is when I started doubting everything. There are still some interpretations that I can swallow but as having the market on truth I dont believe that anymore. I just had a sheperding call 3 days ago. So generic, I told them I doubted and that is why I havnt been there. They saiid that thier hands were tied.WOW!!!!!.....that sure made me lose those doubts
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we have all read and watched so many of the child abuse / sexual abuse scandals, and it makes us all sick to our stomachs, i want to touch on a different kind of abuse, i am not trying to draw a parellel between child abuse and being abused.
the abuse i am talking about is just as bad but so different.
i remember growing up a jw, basically having no choice, whether i wanted to go to the meetings or in service, and i always resented this in my parents.
blacksheep......
mestrual cramps were not a valid reason, he figured you could do calls and sit most of the time in the car.....(SERVICE NAZI)
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we have all read and watched so many of the child abuse / sexual abuse scandals, and it makes us all sick to our stomachs, i want to touch on a different kind of abuse, i am not trying to draw a parellel between child abuse and being abused.
the abuse i am talking about is just as bad but so different.
i remember growing up a jw, basically having no choice, whether i wanted to go to the meetings or in service, and i always resented this in my parents.
TRUE SO TRUE........
I dont think any of us had a normal childhood or even adulthood. I had a good friend who HAD to go in service every saturday. Her dad (the PO) would tell them if they were sick he wanted to see the proof in a jar.....so if they puked or had the runs they had to bottle it as proof to stay home......
SICK SICK SICK
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hi everyone.i just wanted to see if i could get some help here for a male friend of mine.
he is having a hard time with the romance deptartment.
i gave him a few ideas of my own but i thought if i threw the question out there maybe i could get him some views on how to romance a woman..... thanks for any sugggestions.
BINGO!!!!!!!.....Maverick..
you got that one on the nose, I used to hate it when I tried to talk to my ex and he was always in front of the sprots....he wouldnt stop and listen he would tell me I was in his way.....
thank you for that comment, ita can also apply to women thought, some women dont really listen to thier men either.....
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hi everyone.i just wanted to see if i could get some help here for a male friend of mine.
he is having a hard time with the romance deptartment.
i gave him a few ideas of my own but i thought if i threw the question out there maybe i could get him some views on how to romance a woman..... thanks for any sugggestions.
WOW!!!!
I am amazed at the response from men opposed to women saying what it is that a man can do to romance them.....
and EDTEE....you are the first woman that has mad any signs of thinking the rose pedals are romantic.....someone told me the other day that when she came home from work one day her husband had lined hershey kisses on the floor from the front door thru the house down the halls to their bedroom ...when she got to the room he scattered kisses ALL over the bed and had a big sign on the bed that said....*I STILL KISS THE GROUND YOU WALK ON*.....that one game me a big *SIGH*
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