The hug and kiss from my young son every morning and evening.
The smell of new shoes.
- WIng Commander
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It's the little things.
by rolling rock inwhat little things really make you happy?
new socks.
sleeping in my own bed, after i have been working on the road for 6 weeks.
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What Is The Jehovah's Witness Religion To You?
by minimus into me, the witness religion is either a hardcore group of watchtower dogma believing "kool-aid" drinkers or a group of non-believing, mentally and spiritually lazy zombies who value their friendships and family over principle.. there are those in the middle who i believe are too fragile to even want to think about reality..
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They are.......
The religion that sucked my parents into a study in the late 1970's, and then ruined my childhood and family life.
They are the #1 reason why I had the shit kicked out of me in grade school. .
They are the ones that kept me from going to college initially.
They are liars and deceivers, uncaring and unloving.
They are the ones that didn't care when my whole family died in the space of 8 years.
They are as useless as tits on a boar hog when you REALLY need spiritual, emotional, and physical support.
They are a publishing company that makes millions of $$$ off of the free slave labor of their members.
They live almost entirely under the old Mosaic Law.
They deny you access to God through Christ, as they are in Jesus' place.
They brainwash you, slowly and steadily erroding your trust in "Worldly" family and friends that truly care about you.
They are a hurtful, demoralising, self-rightous CULT.
They are the splinter in my mind, and something has never been quite right about them, that is until I took the red pill. All I was offered was the truth; all that I found out was about a lie-filled cult.
- Wing Commander
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The best Anti -Witness
by Wordly Andre ini think most jw's expect that your world will fall apart once you leave the org.
you will start using drugs, sleeping around, tea party with demons, you know all of the typical bullshit horror stories like oh did you hear that (insert name here) left the truf, and now his wife left him, he lost his job, he is homeless and being ass raped by demons!
oh no thank jehovah we are all still in.
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See, here is the problem with JW's. No matter what the outcome, it is always an example of how Satan has control over you. Let me explain to you using the JW Bullsh*t goggles.
**Uh-Hem** - Putting JW Bullsh*t goggles on.....
1. You leave the Borg, somehow lose your job, wife, and become ill and on welfare living in a VAN....down by the river.
--- JW Perspective: You lost Jehovah's blessing and therefor are being punished and get what's coming to you now, and also when the Big A comes. You bird fodder!!
2. You leave the Borg. You go to college, graduate. You get a top-notch job, make loads of $$$, buy a BMW. Eventually meet a hot woman, settle down, have children and very nice home. You are active in your family life and also the community, helping with the kids soccer games and volunteering money and time to local shelter and food kitchen.
---- JW Perspective: You lost Jehovah's blessing and are now favored by Satan, the ruler of this evil, materialistic system of things. You now have Satan's favor, which can be proven by your "Worldly" success and "showy display of materialism", all of which Satan has provided to you in order to make it appear that you are a good person; because after all, Satan can show himself (And others) as an angel of light. Congratulations bird fodder, you are now an example to the youth of what not to be. (Successful and happy, apparently)
See how twisted this all is? No matter happens, if you are not in the Borg than you end up as "fleshy bird fodder" after the Big A. It absolutely doesn't matter what you do, say, how you act, how Christian you are in your actions and deeds, if you are not out preaching than eventually end up as bird fodder. As a child, I used to wonder about people in Australia (my dream vacation) you know, the Crocodile Dundee types that lived in the outback and had never seen or heard of the JW's. I asked people what would happen if the Big A came and they were judged, what would happen? The Answer: They would be destroyed, because no matter how good they "might appear", they are not baptized publishers serving God's Earthly Organization, and therefor did not have Jehovah's blessing. This answer I got from many different people, and as a child I was astounded and angered that God would be capable of such a thing. Eventually, I got a few, "Only God knows there heart condition, and this is what he will judge people on," but this answer was rare and didn't show up until the mid-90's. I believe the hardcore answer is still their main point of view.
No matter what, you can never win in God's eyes unless you are a time-slip turning-in baptized publisher. That's really F*cked up, isn't it?
- Wing Commander
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Call to Blondie, Minimus, all other WT date fact finders........
by WingCommander in1879 - will be resurrected.
will not be resurrected.
1965 - will be resurrected.
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WingCommander
I know this is an unusual request, so please bear with me. A co-worker of my wife's has family that has just started studying with the JW's. I have a document prepared for just such an occasion that shows how much the New and Old Light "Flickers." Actually, it was compiled from someone else on here, but I have modified it for my own use. What I want to do, is have those of you that can, please put a WTBS source, edition, page number to the date/fact that is shown. I want a prospective JW or JW looking at this to be instantly blown away by seeing an actual WTBS source shown.
After I received your replies (you can PM me if you want as well) I will incorporate your sources into my finished docment. My finished document is meant to be a shocking eye opener of research and something to make a prospective study, or maybe a long-time JW think about. Anyone wanting my finished document can PM me. It would be alot to just post on here, and it has pictures.
So, please find below the dates/facts I need backed up with WTBS sources. I know this is short notice, but I also know what for a fine group of researchers we have on here in which to pull such fine "spiritual food at the proper time," from. Thank ALL in advance for this help.....
- Wing Commander
The end of the world:
1874 (borrowed by C.T. Russell from Second Adventist teachings)
1888
1914 - “The generation that saw these things will not pass away” – Slogan dropped from Awake! magazines in 1996.
1918 (could occur in 1920)
1925 (“Millions Now Living Will Never Die!”) – Guess what; they’re dead!
1932
1975 – Fred Franz declares at 1968 Baltimore assembly, “Stay Alive until ’75!”
New light - 2034? Noah had 120 years, maybe we will too. Special Pioneer now! 1914 + 120 years = 2034. See, anyone can make up apocalyptic dates!
Who is The 'Lord' as mentioned in Romans 10:12-16:
1903 - 'Lord' refers to Jesus.
1940 - 'Lord' refers to Jehovah.
1978 - 'Lord' refers to Jesus.
1980 - 'Lord' refers to Jehovah.
Will the people of Sodom and Gomorrah be eligible for resurrection:
1879 - Will be resurrected
Will not be resurrected
1965 - Will be resurrected
1967 - Will not be resurrected
1974 - Will be resurrected
1988 - Will not be resurrected
1988 - Will be resurrected
1989 - Will not be resurrected
Who are the ‘Higher Powers' mentioned at Romans 13:1:
1916 - 'Higher powers' refers to governments.
1943 - 'Higher powers' refers to Jehovah God & Jesus Christ.
1964 - 'Higher powers' refers to governments.
When will the separating of the 'sheep and goats' take place (Matt. 25:31-46):
1919 - will take place after the time of tribulation
1923 - is taking place now, before the tribulation.
1995 - will take place after the tribulation.
Blood, Blood serum and blood fractions:
1940 Blood transfusions are acceptable
1945 Blood transfusion are not acceptable
1956 Blood serums should be treated as blood and are banned
1958 Blood serums and fractions acceptable
1959 Storage of own blood unacceptable
1961 Blood fractions are not acceptable
1964 Blood fractions are acceptable
1974 Blood serums are personal choice
1975 Hemophilia treatments (Factor VII & IX) are not acceptable
1978 Hemophilia treatments (Factor VII & IX) are acceptable
1982 Albumin is acceptable
1983 Hemodilution is acceptable
1990 Hemodilution is not acceptable (Blood Brochure)
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New Experience: I went to a Christmas service at a church Monday night....
by WingCommander init was my wife's sister's church, a lutheran church.
i wanted to see my neice's sing in the choir and also just to take in the whole experience.
i have been married for 4 years (to non-jw woman) and have only participated in christmas activities breifly.
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ADMIN: I'm sorry, I meant to post this in the "Experiences" section of this website. If someone from ADMIN could move if up there, I'd appreciate it!!!!
Thanks so much for everyone's feedback,
Wing Commander
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New Experience: I went to a Christmas service at a church Monday night....
by WingCommander init was my wife's sister's church, a lutheran church.
i wanted to see my neice's sing in the choir and also just to take in the whole experience.
i have been married for 4 years (to non-jw woman) and have only participated in christmas activities breifly.
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My first, ever. It was my wife's sister's church, a Lutheran church. I wanted to see my neice's sing in the choir and also just to take in the whole experience. I have been married for 4 years (to non-JW woman) and have only participated in Christmas activities breifly. As I was raised a JW and haven't been an active JW since about 1999, I just can't seem to get all excited about Christmas. There is this whole JW ingrained fear that I shouldn't be giving thanks to God for Jesus being born. Also, I'm for some reason constantly reminded in my head that I'm going into "Babylon the Great," or that I'm, "Laying down with the scarlet colored Harlot." All images from that wonderful Revelation book I believe. Anyway, I wanted to experience a regular Chrstian service but these old feelings give you anxiety attacks, ya know?
Anyway, we got all dressed up and headed out early to sit with our relatives for the 8:00 service. I wasn't sure if I had to cross myself when entering the sanctuary as Catholics do but I didn't have to because they are Lutheran. Wouldn't have bothered my either way I as I honestly don't see anything wrong with it. Anyway, what struck me was how very nice the church was as they have a complete Sunday school (broke down by age groups) youth groups, activity and fellowship halls, etc. Pictures adorn the hallways of past group and social events, charity benefits, upcoming event posters, etc. Seems like Christendom keeps it's members active in "following the Christ" after all. I noticed a small room where an older gentleman sat to monitor the security monitors and also control the lighting, sound, etc by computer. All top notch and nice; a far cry from the bare bones audio equipment from Radio Shack that some teenager MS-wannabe controls at the Kingdowm Hall. What a differance from the bland classless atmosphere of a cookie-cutter Kingdom Hall. Anyway, we entered and found our seats next to my in-laws. It was filling up quickly. 15 minutes later it was totally packed. They had very nice programs printed up with the hymnals to be sung, outline of the service and sermon to be given, etc. All very nice and new to me. Everyone was friendly and kind. Still, I was nervous, especially when I saw at the end where everyone rises and makes their way to the front to take communion. "Communion!!!" - Something I had never taken in my entire life, as I was never worthy enough to recieve it according to the JW's. Anyway, when the service started and everyone started to sing I was totally blown away, completely astounded by the lovely singing and praising of God and His Son, Jesus. What a far cry from the monotonous, heartless, barely audible droning of the JW's over the canned music of the KH pa system. I now felt embarrased for the JW's "Singing Praises to Jehovah," because this was some real singing.
The service was interesting, as Lutheran is really Catholoc-Light, so there is alot of repeating of some things and up and down from your seat, which was competely favored by me after having to sit for 2 hours a meeting for nearly 20 years and be bored to tears. This was anything but boring to be honest. I took it all in, the atmosphere, the people, the singing, the praising of God and of His Son's birth, FOR US ALL. This was the message of the sermon given, that this day symbolized the day of Christ's birth, even though it may not be the exact date, but that it He was born into the world as a sacrifice for us ALL, and of all the people he was born among he was born among the lowly shephards, not kings or queens. There was also a message of hope, to come to God and Jesus as you would come out of darkness in tunnel towards the light. It was a moving sermon, and the entire service, ritual, sermon, communion, singing, etc last about 1.5 hours. It went quick, probably because of it's newness to me. When it came to take communion I was nervous, as I honestly don't feel like I'm worthy, but I did it anyway for the sake of doing it, "In remembrance of me," as Jesus commanded his disciples to "Keep on doing."
At the end, I just can't help feeling what a great, freeing experience it was for me. I also can't see anything wrong with it, nor for praising God for giving us his son, singing praises and rejoicing for Jesus just as the angels did on that very eve so long ago. I can't imagine Jehovah being angry at us for giving thanks and rejoicing in such a way. No wonder everyone sees JW's as twisted, socially retarded cult members.....that is what it seems like to me now. Sometimes, like when I was sitting in that church Monday night, I caught myself thinking, "What is wrong with this type of worship? What is/was wrong with me for all of those years? I don't see anything wicked here." While I don't fully embrace the belief of the Trinity, I still found the experience to be praising/worshipping the Father out over the Son, but managing to give thanks to the Son, etc.
So, that's my first real Christmas experience so far. Christmas Day was the usual around my house a large bruch at the in-laws, gifts being exchanged, and then our mid-afternoon nap. The evening was capped off at my Aunt-in-law's house with my cousins, another first for me.
I hope everyone had a great holiday.
- Wing Commander
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How was you Christmas ?
by oldflame inmine was the best i ever had.
22 years ago my ex wife committed parental kidnapping of my son.
i could of pressed charges then but decided not too because i did not want my son to grow up hating me for it.
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Wow...this gets the "Post of the Day" nomination from me....what a truly beautiful event in your life!!
Just think, if you related this experience in a Kingdom Hall, they would gasp because you had a myspace page and then condemn you for being on there......probably totally overlook the joy of finding your son and instead focus on how you weren't following the Borg's direction.
Anyway....gald to hear about your reunion.
Regards,
Wing Commander
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JW Grinch e-mail poem I recieved and my reply
by moomanchu ina christmas poem.
she asked if she could modify the assignment by just writing a poem on the origin of christmas and if true christians should celebrate it.
christmas poem.
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I just love how JW's (my past self included) just love to look back on history, but yet do not take into account what the BIBLE itself has to say on the subject. Now, I don't know chapter and versuses, but don't Jesus himself state something about "not keeping people from gatherings and festivities?" Also, in the Gospel, isn't there an account that states that the very angels themselves REJOICED when Christ Jesus was born? Surely, if the angels where rejoicing and celebrating such a momentous occassion, than how can we be wrong to observe it as well?
As for "not touching the disgusting thing," as in using Celtic symbols (Trees, wreathes, lights, etc.) to observe Jesus' birth, the WatchTower itself has answered that with their own QFR a while back concerning Pinatas. It stated that using something that was once pagan to observe something now is ok due to the pagan origins no longer being in memory, etc.
Talk about picking everything apart, straining the gnat, etc.
Regards,
Wing Commander
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The JWD awards for 2007 your votes please
by karter inthe categories are.
1: best overall poster .
2: best supporting poster.
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WingCommander
Oh goodie, I'm the first reply! In light of everything and everyone, let me be the first to nominate MYSELF - Wing Commander! While I don't post nearly as much as NVRJHK or whatever hsi name is and Minimus, I feel that my posts have substance and generally worth reading. I mean, I have been here since 2000 or so, but yet I've only posted like 200 times. However, I read here almost daily.
So, I having nominated myself and due to all others probably agreeing, what do I win? lol.
Regards,
- Wing Commander :)
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Is Higher education strongly discouraged in 2007 district convention?
by dark angle intoday in our rehersal, i met with our district convension overseer.
he told us that college or higher education is now strongly discouraged by the society.
i argued that such policy is not practical here in the philippines since most jobs now require some sort of college education unlike in other countries where there are demands on skills regardless on educational attainment.
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See, here is the thing with those "experiences" given at assemblys from people that couldn't cut in college......
Usually, you have a bro or sis on stage confirming that college is nothing but a drunken orgy of frat parties and illicit sex. What no one sees, and it is failed to be mentioned, is how socially retarded those are that are raised in the "Truth" really are, so that when they get to college and are free from the chains of their overbearing parents they just go crazy on the freedom high and do everything they were never allowed to do or experience before in their lives. They have no social gauge or self-control in which to say, "I'm not goig to down that half bottle of Captain Morgan and then screw 3 different guys." - it just isn't there. They are away from home for the first time, out from under the microscope of their parents constant JW watchfulness, and feel so free and high spirited that they go overboard all at once. Most kids aren't like this; my neice is going away to college and although Lutheran, is not the Devil's tool at all. She has been given freedom by her parents, but doesn't even have a boyfriend, smoke, or even stay out. She is too busy with her LIFE in band, school studies, choir, church youth activities, etc to be immoral.
JW youth and young adults are completely socially retarded and clueless as to how to behave themselves around other people away from mommy and daddy's constant belittling. I know, I was raised in and used to be a social retard just like the ones you see in your local congregation, and I went to college as well. I think I know what I'm talking about.
Regards,
Wing Commander