just interested in experiences any of you have had working for other witnesses or companies owned by witnesses.
i heard mutterings occassionally from other witnesses they would never work for another witness.
regardless of anything i said, the owner was adamant in his refusal to believe i had ever done anything more than being a delivery driver.
@ Rebel8: I would have literally kicked the sh*t out of that Elder's daughter for being such an underhanded piece of sh*t! Imagine, taking food out of you and your families mouth to feed their JW friends at a weekend BBQ!! I would have immediately quit, then kicked their azzes! That is just appaulling behavior. Screw them!
I've heard too many horror stories myself.....I would NEVER work for a JW - EVER!!
- Wing Commander
question fit for blondie types.. happiness book:.
"19 one tactic that he has used is by encouraging the view that there is no devil or satan.
he is like a criminal who spreads the idea that a crime syndicate does not exist, thus lulling persons into a false security.".
w 2013/7/15
Was Jesus foretelling that there would be an evil slave class in the last days? No. Granted, some individuals have manifested a spirit similar to that of the evil slave described by Jesus. We would call them apostates, whether they were of the anointed or of the “great crowd.” (Rev. 7:9) But such ones do not make up an evil slave class. Jesus did not say that he would appoint an evil slave . His words here are actually a warning directed to the faithful and discreet slave.
Wow, what a set-up this line of reasoning is, and clever to boot. With this line of reasoning, they can very cleverly say that Ray Franz (and other Governing Body member thinking of a coup) can be immediately dismissed as being part of the Evil Slave Class and everything they say dismissed as heracy, no matter what spiritual backing and logic these present. Brilliant! Well played JW.org spin-docters, well played.
- Wing Commander
what was the most outrageous comment you ever heard during a wt study?.
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please share your experiences..
@ Millie210:
It's hard to not be angry and bitter. I was born into this cult in 1979. My parents were exposed to the JW literature thru their youth due to accepting some publications throughout their youth. It helps to do research on the history of this cult, it's failed prophecies, etc. Reading books on psychology and how manipulators and pschopaths operate also helps, as it teaches you how to see and recognize how you were decieved, used, and manipulated, and controlled for so long. That has helped me immensely to get over this farce of a religion, and also helped me to see and weed out other abusive, toxic people in my life.
I'd say the only thing I really feel, is resentment for the fact that the WTBTS Cult stole my childhood, my prospects for education, etc. You can't get those things back. All those Assemblies and Conventions, spent sitting still as a child miserable listening to now what is considered "Old Light", and for what? I am now middle-aged with no prospect of even a Great Tribulation in sight, much less Armaggedon!!!! So much time lost to this cult, when instead my parents and I could have been at a park having a picnic, having fun at an amusement park or some other vacation. I never even went to an amusement park or even a movie theater until I was 15-16 years old!!!! How insane is that??? SAD.
- Wing Commander
to cut my long story short, having left the religion in 2006, my marriage with 2 young kids involved went through a fairly difficult time.
for a few years.
as i rebelled against the belief system i was astonished that having pointed out reasonable & logical objections, my wife just stood by the religion.
Short answer? Divorce. How do you feel about being in the exact same position 8 years from now, with kids 8 years older (and possibly baptized), and drinking the kool-aide? AND, you'll be 8 years OLDER and more miserable. Cut your losses, and save yourself and your childen.
- Wing Commander
howdy....well, what do you think?
of everything?
is it all crazy?
I now live with my first born daughter, two grandsons and my son-in-law. I help them pay off their mortgage so they can fulfill their lifelong dream of . . .
ugh! MOVING TO ALASKA and living in some god-forsaken wilderness in a cabin they build for themselves.
I kid you not. Can you imagine?
Actually, I think this dream is great. If you build your home right, it can be efficient and completely off the grid. Imagine having no gas, water, or electric bills? Have a simple 4WD Jeep to get into town. You wake up every morning, and look out onto nature's incredible scenery from the security of your chalet. No nosey neighbors (except curious bears and animals). Sounds like a slice of "Paradise" if you ask me. Also, I've heard Alaska's taxes or very low to non-existant. I wouldn't live up above the Arctic Circle, but Fairbanks, Jeunoa, or similar parts would be fine. I'd also settle for areas of Oregon and Washington state.
- Wing Commander
what was the most outrageous comment you ever heard during a wt study?.
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please share your experiences..
Most appauling thing I've ever heard from an Elder happened like this:
After my long-suffering JW mother recieved a liver transplant about 10 years ago, the transplant did not take with multiple complications. As she was nearing death, I called our current Presiding Overseer at his home. Granted we were 250 miles away at University known for "bloodless" (or as near to bloodless as any steak can be). Anyhow, she was nearing death. I was sitting alone in my car in a parking garage. I called this trusted PO and asked if he'd come offer some spiritual assistance, comforting words to my dying mother, etc. His response? "I'm in the middle of dinner right now, please call the local body of Elders, and I'm sure they'll be able to offer you some assistance." He then hung up, and I was left picking my jaw up off the floor. It was then.....right then and there, thru my tears and suffering, that I realized that these "Princes among men", did not give one flying f*ck about me, my family, my dying mother, or anything else besides whether or not you were stuffing a chair at every meeting and stuffing your income into a donation box. You are not a person, you are a number.....an EXPENDABLE number, and they don't give a rat's azz about you or your problems. They no more shephard a flock any more than a wolf would. This "loving shephard" was killed in a freak construction accident about 2 years later. It was then I realized kharma was straight up for real yo! I have many more "Elder Dozies", but the one I just relayed takes first prize. Want to know who DID come and visit my dying mother on the last day of her life? Three of her so-called "worldly" co-workers took off work, rented a mini-van, and came down unannounced to cheer her up, which they did. She cried upon seeing them. I was floored. Here, the JW's didn't give two sh*ts, but her coworkers did. I thanked them over lunch in the cafeteria. Truly, by their "love" you will know them.
- Wing Commander
what was the most outrageous comment you ever heard during a wt study?.
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please share your experiences..
An older lady once said that if you don't scream Jehovah's name out while you are being raped then you are liable for the rape. The conductor was horrified.
Don't know why the conductor would have been horrified. She was actually quoting learned WatchTower position on that subject for years. Conductor apparently wasn't up-to-date on WT understanding.
- Wing Commander
this is my first time posting here, although i have been a visitor to it for around a year.
after doing a simple google search under "jehovah'switnesses" over a year ago, i found ttat.
i was deeply unhappy with the congregation and decided to educate myself, and boy what an education i have gotten so far.
No doubt about it, probably one of the top 5 DA letters I've ever read, as it is short, to the point, and hard-hitting. An Elder reading that one will be punch-drunk.
Welcome to our site. I did much as you did right around 1999. Typed "Jehovah's Witnesses" in the Yahoo! search engine and couldn't stop reading. I was 19. I am still learning incredible details about this twisted cult I was born and raised in. It's maddening at times how dupped we all were.
- Wing Commander
i have tried researching, but this pesky organisation always packs out the list.
you seem to have to drill down several layers before reaching christadelphians.. is it a recognised idea among other peoples/religions?.
Seventh Day Adventists belive this was well.
three months ago i had to stop driving my car.
it wouldn't pass inspection and it would cost about $3k to get it up to par.. well, it's a 98 honda accord with about 179 thousand miles on it, what did i expect?.
.. i decided i would switch to riding a bicycle instead.. it has worked out fairly well.. i put about 10 miles a day on it.
I'm sorry, but you got robbed TWICE. There is no way in hell that that bike is worth $650.00 USD. No freakin' way. So whoever you bought it from robbed you first. That particular Diamondback is not worth that.
Here's a bike I highly recommend with good components and an affordable pricetag. Won't ROB your wallet either at the checkout. Not sure if you have a Target around you, but if not you can find it other places.
Here's a hybrid (shocks, bigger tires):
And here's strictly a road bike:
Both of these below $400.00, with Shimano components at Target. I'd also highly recommend Trek cycles. There are a few models below $650.00 that are heads above any DiamondBack.
- Wing Commander
