I wasn't born until 1979. I very rarely ever heard anything about 1975, & my parents didn't start studying until late 70's after they were married. I'm 36. For me, the 1914 Generation doctrinal fiasco was the "kicker" for me. Actually, what I heard about and wandered about as a child was the whole Pyramids of Giza proving 1914 BS. Even as a child, I wandered how in the world measurements in the pagan Egyptian pyramids proved anything about the Bible? Why would they need to? They are pagan, and the Bible is truth and Christian, correct? Seemed whack, even in 1984. In 1998, I started searching Yahoo! search engine about this stuff......1914 and pyramids, and oh man......what a traumatic experience to learn and have it confirmed that it was all total BS. Dominoes fell, and continue to fall to this day.
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Looking Back In Retrospect To 1975...
by titch ingreetings, folks: so, it's been 40 years since 1975. and, if you were actively involved with the witnesses back then, the mindset of many was, that by early autumn of 1975, it would mark the anniversary of 6000 years of human existence.
and, the hope was then, that it would mark the start of the 1000-year of christ, from the heavenly realm.
but, looking back now, 40 years ago, in june of 1975, only 3 more months remained until early autumn.
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Candace Conti Case
by truthseekeriam infiled:.
letter dated june 22, 2015, notifying the court that petitioners, watchtower and fremont congregation have reached a settlement with respondent, conti.. .
click here to request automatic e-mail notifications about this case..
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I hope to God she didn't accept a "Gag" order. To me, that would be a "win" for JW WTBTS. I know she got a lot of air time in before this settlement, but a "Gag" order would be a real killer.
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Strange Moment During The 2015 Regional Convention
by JW_Rogue inhi, i'm new here but hadn't seen this mentioned anywhere yet.
during the "imitate jesus" rc there was a strange moment where they played a video of a brother trying to explain the 1914 teaching.
the brother quickly goes through all the scriptural "proofs" and the householder is dumbfounded.
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I just LOVE how 607 is spoken of as if it were purely FACT. Any householder with a grain of education in history would immediately call out that false date for the fall of Jerusalem and point them towards the incredible mountain of evidence for 587, and the JW would be left looking like a total moron. How dumb do the GB think normal, educated people are? What am I saying? Did that "householder" look like an educated person to you? No.....he looked like a slow, simple-minded halfwit.....just like the JW's like to recruit. Slow, dumb, and uneducated is what they are after.
I was almost floored by the laughter from the audience in this clip. To me, is really signals that the majority of the R&F think it's total BS as well....made-up, convoluted BS.
Like someone said above, this religion has jumped the shark in recent years. The serious religion of my youth is DEAD. This is what is in it's place....dumbed down idiotic nonsense. At least the Oracle Fred Franz's stuff wanted you to think and examine things.
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Dawn Bible Students Association and Ken Fernets
by Hold Me-Thrill Me inthe dawn bible students association has a problem.
ken fernets, when on the phone, shows his true colors to women who call.
he engages in flirtatious speech.
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WingCommander
He invites these women out for coffee.......in the daylight? At Starbucks, Panera, or possibly.......(Gasp!) - Tim Horton's??? The NERVE of this barbarian!! Doesn't he know that women are to be seen and not heard? That their place is barefoot, in the kitchen, pregnant, and fetching the man his cold beer and chicken pot pie?
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Why a new "World Headquarters"?
by 4thgen ini just dont get it.
the gb moved to patterson and are conducting business from there, right?
they are not printing as much literature as they once were and they are still operating walkill for the magazines...er a ....pamphlets.
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The Mormons have Salt Lake City. People's Temple had Jonestown. The Branch Davidians had Waco.
The WT cult will have Warwick, NY.
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i'm stupid, right?
by embarrassed ini am on here as another member, but even with a username and not revealing my identity, i am still too embarrassed to use it.
had to make up a new one.
that being said.... my boyfriend is watching pornography, and it seriously hurts my feelings.
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My Story of Waking Up - in retrospect
by cappytan inso, many of y'all know bits and pieces of my story of waking up, but i thought it might be nice to have it all in one place.. i was baptized at 11, auxiliary pioneered every summer, regular pioneer at 17, ministerial servant by 19, then went to bethel for a year.. i always had minor doubts from time to time, but nothing serious.
always dismissed doubts and decided to "just have faith.".
after leaving bethel, i was never really firing on all cylinders "spiritually speaking.
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Hello El Cappytan! You've come a long way, you! I'm actually kind of surprised it was the 607 and TOMO III "Tight Pants" thing. I would have thought Bethel service would be enough to awaken anyone to the incredible hypocrisy of the WT cult. Oh well, whatever gets you out!
I'm glad to hear your wife is on the outs as well.
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Why a new "World Headquarters"?
by 4thgen ini just dont get it.
the gb moved to patterson and are conducting business from there, right?
they are not printing as much literature as they once were and they are still operating walkill for the magazines...er a ....pamphlets.
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Same reason Jim Jones up and moved People's Temple from San Francisco to the jungle of Guyana. Control, control, and MORE control. And control and manipulate in secrecy, out from under watchful eyes.
Wait and see, they'll start buying up property around Warwick so that in a few decades, they'll "own" that small town. They're already at it, actually.
Cult Compound, ala WT style. Scary.
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Example of shunning
by enigma1863 inhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eueuwshs1cg&feature=youtu.be
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Legit Questions:
1.) Is this guy a locally known Apostate from another denomination? As in, has he in the past picketed, demonstrated, or gone all crazy like outside these conventions? If so, I wouldn't have spoken to him either!
2.) I wonder if someone wearing a new suit, being filmed by a pro camera on a tripod, with a "Apos 8" square thing on a better microphone would have gotten a better reception? You know, fool them into thinking you are legit media, then put them on the spot about their shunning?
If this had been me as a JW approached by a guy like this, I would spoken to him. What's to be afraid of? My gut reaction, is that this guy has previously been a pain-in-the-ass trouble maker type, no matter what he "claims" now, and this is why the people couldn't get away from him fast enough. Think "Mr Coffee" of at Columbia Heights. Total obsessed nut-job.
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Well another one leaves the Borg.
by John Aquila ini took a quick trip to the store and i happened to see a young man (about 26-28 years old) who got baptized about the same time i was leaving- about 2 years ago.
a couple of pioneer sisters found him in the door to door work.
one of them, a very attractive girl.
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Bravo!! Bravo to that young man! One less "victim" that the WTBTS can fleece of youth, life, and liberty.
I wish I could have been with you. I wish I could have heard him speak. His words could have very well been mine, even though I was born in. I had similar conversations with my parents growing up, about how uppity and smug JW girls were....that nothing you did was ever good enough. The constant bashing of higher education, while some Elder's kids secretly obtained degrees anyway, and no one knew until they got a good-paying job.
It's experiences like this that confirm to me that leaving was the right thing to do, and that I in fact am not crazy. THEY are the crazy brainwashed Cult members. I hope you gave that young man this website address, as well as told him he was lucky to have escaped a highly-controlling CULT.
If the JW's had their way, this young fellow would have immediately dropped out of college, started his own janitorial business while full-time Pioneering beside a literature cart, and giving every cent to the contribution box and every ounce of life to the cult. Guess he wasn't having any of that? Guess he didn't want to be a complete LOSER all his life, huh?
Incredible story......really made my day!