let the merging begin!!!.
to all bodies of elders in the united states branch territory.
re: fully utilizing kingdom hall auditoriums.
Know what I find really disturbing? The use (multiple times) of the words "Master Plan." If that's doesn't scream "old Krout-controlling-Nazi-cult-leadership", I don't know what does. That is really creepy and weird.
"Ya Schroeder, Franz told me dat ve hav to cut bach on uzing da gas chambers so much, ve need to conserve da Zyclon-B."
i was just a teenager and have a vivid memory of sitting in a chair doing a microphone for the sunday meeting.
everyone was commenting that it didn't mean the end was far off, and it didn't change the condition of the dead, or the 144,000, or the trinity so we should still remain faithful.
this is my first memory as a kid being just a teen that i ever had a single doubt.
@ steve2:
That was a perfect summation of JW's today. Totally spot on.
i was just a teenager and have a vivid memory of sitting in a chair doing a microphone for the sunday meeting.
everyone was commenting that it didn't mean the end was far off, and it didn't change the condition of the dead, or the 144,000, or the trinity so we should still remain faithful.
this is my first memory as a kid being just a teen that i ever had a single doubt.
just wanted to say hello since i am new to this forum.
allow myself to introduce myself.
lol.
I'll say this; I wouldn't have anything Apostate online like you do. Elders will use it to get your wife to divorce you.
Also, your wife (if educated), may be a lot smarter than most give her credit for. After the reaming you got at your JC, maybe that has already been an eye-opener for her. Also a rude awakening, is the despicable treatment and lack of support she has experienced since you were tossed out on your bum. Face it, are the ELDERS going to pay her bills? Buy her food? Take care of her, as you did? Um, NO. I'm sure she's experienced the "Christian Love" that emanates from these losers. The treatment of loved ones alone is enough to get people thinking, the doctrinal questioning of issues comes later.
You are on the right path with counseling.
i was just a teenager and have a vivid memory of sitting in a chair doing a microphone for the sunday meeting.
everyone was commenting that it didn't mean the end was far off, and it didn't change the condition of the dead, or the 144,000, or the trinity so we should still remain faithful.
this is my first memory as a kid being just a teen that i ever had a single doubt.
I am 36. 1995 was 20 years ago already. 1985 was 30 years ago. 30 years ago the WT's and Awake!'s with the whole 1914 and Generation covers were fresh in our young minds. How big was it? HUGE. As a child of 6 in 1985, there was an older gentlemen in my congregation in Columbia, PA named Charlie Nagle. I kind, tall, then gentleman of 90+ years old. So, he was clearly of that Generation. I remember always asking him how many more years to 100? It was just kind of a kid joke.....and also kind of a joke of the times.....that being, that he wouldn't be an old man at 100, because the "New Order" would be here and he'd be young with me and we could play together. How sad.......Brother Nagle and his wife have long since departed, and at 36 I'm in the early stages of middle age and at some point will reach old age. I am becoming the old man. (though I'm fighting it, as I'm in great shape).
This cult has put such a mind-job on all of us. And it's really mentally frustrating to know and hear about people on a few years younger than myself (30-ish) who don't know about how much emphasis and importance was placed on 1914 and the Generation.....to the point that WE (ex-JWs, etc) actually have to explain it to them, or that they deny it!!!!!! That is very, very nerve-racking to me. It's almost like my childhood belief system didn't even happen, even though I lived it!!!! That is crazy....just crazy!!!
I wish I could say the 1995 change woke me up. Truth is, I was 15 and too busy to even read those idiotic magazines. My parents got the mags, but hadn't been attending much at all since 1991 or so. It was completely missed by my family until later. What a mind-job this cult is.
at the regional they said they need brothers like crazy, but sisters are giveing out the literature and sisters are handling contranution boxes but yet they say brothers are lazy shiftless following at distance can someone explain this.
@ Billy:
Hey! That's my line!!
"The beatings will continue until morale improves."
Kind of like the one poster on here who always says, "........It's a Cult!"
LOL.
it's been four years (has it really been that long) that i haven't been on jwd.. i was back out west for a long while and i came back to new england.
just got an appartment with another sister and things are looking up.
i'm keeping under the radar and avoiding elder visits--not fully out of the kingdom hall yet.
i feel sorry for lark, star in save by the bell tv show.
years ago we.
went to the same kh when she was a child.
well, once again my "friend" has shared their notes with me from the latest co visit.
besides the usual 1914 assertions/ world getting worse all the time/ our day is the worst of all time nonsense, the co mentioned some interesting things.
number one won't surprise you.
Did the CO happen to mention who the the King of North might be? After all, that King has to be made known as well before the End can come. Any mention, and mention at ALL, of the waters drying up, the moon turning as red as blood, and the locusts roaming over the earth? Famine? This CO seems to be in the know, so I'm sure he'll have answers to these questions.
I just love how the King of the North isn't even spoken about anymore. It used to be such a big guessing game and source of debate as to who it was, now it's completely forgotten.
What a mind-job this Cult is.
last wednesday the question was put 'can unions ordain women as ministers in the sda church?
the vote was defeated yes 41.35 to no 58.45.. the dutch churches responded quickly saying they won't be changing there policy and will continue to ordain women.. the north american division and the two conferences in california have women pastors that are already ordained.. the sda pastors in china are mostly women.. the internet is running hot with opinions one way or the other.
here is how millennials feel about there church at this point most are studying at an sda university.
It's obvious to me that SDA's while being cut from the same cloth as JW's (Second Adventist movement) are not nearly as cult-like as JW's. JW's have become more and more extreme and controlling over the years, while SDA's are at least making some sort of forward progress. Think about it: They have hospitals, schools, even a few ordained women! They cut ties with a lot of the Ellen G. White prophetic nonsense, and actually celebrate holidays. Part of me is actually a bit drawn to them, but their remaining controlling tendencies immediately raise red-flags and make me run away. So I'd say SDA's are "cult-like", while JW's are a full-blown doomsday cult.
Oh, I forgot to mention that SDA's also produce literature and have stands at Fair's, etc around the USA and the literature looks eerily like the doomsday crap JW's put out. I mean it's really freaky how similar it all is. That alone gave me the creeps a few short years ago and I stopped considering them.
