Panera or Atlanta Bread is much better. I've been in many a Tim Horton's in Canada though, and I've never had any problems like that, or else I would have never gone bac.
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Tim Horton's sucks. I thought it was supposed to be good?
by SnakesInTheTower inso my wife and i went to th yesterday.
the chain started opening stores in the st. louis, mo area about a month ago.
by now the bugs should be worked out.
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So heres latest from local hall
by poopie ina friend of mine that is df went to hall today someone held door for him he thanked them ,soon after and elder aproached wispered in his ear "you cant talk to anyone" the pharisees .
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I would have been like, "Then the last thing I'll say to you Brother EldAss as I'm heading out the door is, F*ck You, and Good-bye!"
I tell ya, you can really feel the warm gooey Christian love oozing from these Pharisees, can't ya? UGH.
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Child Abuse - "I don't care. I haven't got any children".
by cofty inearlier this week i bumped into a couple of jws who i recognised from the cult cart.
a few months ago i had a long conversation with him one of them and found him to be quite friendly.
he is new to the area in the years since i left.. this time he was very defensive and said he wasn't allowed to talk to me.
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JW Broadcasting is dying.
by John Aquila inonce a month about 15 to 20 elderly jw publishers would meet at the kingdom hall and one elder was assigned to set up the system so they could view jw broadcasting.
these publishers were long time pioneers, former elders, and long time publishers who know nothing about computers or the internet.
they are the last batch of those expecting the generation that saw 1914 or understood it--- to not die off.
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Give the Elderly ones a good dressing down and guilt trip, then turn around in the next breath and ask them to cook expensive meals for the holier-than-thou Pioneers? F*ck those condescending asshats! That would be the last time I'd ever set foot in a Kingdom Hall if I were those older ones.
Like I've been saying, the motto of the JW's continues on,
"The beatings will continue until morale improves."
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You Tube Video Ex-Betheliite Ex-Walkill Worker Layed Off!
by cha ching ini am not sure if this guy is really from bethel, or walkill, but if he is....this poor guy really tells it like it is from the heart.
he was surprised.. at the 'oh so fast, pack your bags, get your stuff outta here' layoff !.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uk1xh1egjcu
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The behavior of the "Loving Shepherds" at "God's House", as related by former workers in this thread is absolutely shocking and disgraceful. To not even be able to obtain freakin' cold medicine while volunteering your time without having to pay a quarter (.25 cents US) is a sick joke, and an absolute symptom of the bean counters running amok and partially running the show at HQ instead of the Holy Spirit and Christ's Love. If I had been that sick volunteer, I would have told them that the pills WERE already paid for by 1.) my previous generous donations and 2.) Christ's ransom sacrifice. I would have LOVED to have seen them deny me medicine then. How sad is it that a JW could go to the Red Cross or Salvation Army and get medicine or free meal, but at JW HQ you are charged for medicine, food/meals, A/C, phone calls, and whatever else they can use to suck every last nickel back out of your pitiful "allowance" that they generously "allow" you to have every month. What parasitic leeches, what vipers!!!!!!!
Truly, by your fruits you shall know them.......by the love they show one another. That isn't something we hear about coming out of JW HQ's.
I like many others on here, am appalled and disgusted at this treatment and behaviour. What I also find appalling is the tidbit I've heard about in some of the stories about 1.) rampant drinking and 2.) playing sports. These were strictly forbidden in our area (only 3 hours from Brooklyn mind you) Especially sports. NO ONE is allowed to play sports in school, NO ONE. Yet here, the freakin' Bethelites are playing sports in teams between departments? Double standards much?
Something else that really has me seething. Finding out in the plans submitted to the City of Warwick that the new HQ is going to have tennis courts, basketball courts, swimming pools, gyms, and various other recreational facilities all on the dime of worldwide donations. Again, normal JW's can't even join a local "Y" to use the gym (for fear of being DF'd) and are basically forbidden (or at the very least strongly marked) for joining gyms to exercise, but here Worldwide HQ gets the very things the rest of the rank and file have been denied our entire lives. Hypocritical douchebags!!!!!! That really pisses me off.
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Will the Watchtower ever turn against K-12 public education?
by cappytan inwhen i was in school, you never heard about critical thinking skills...not till you started taking college level courses.. i work closely with the public education community.
now, the big rage in public education is instilling critical thinking skills from kindergarten on up.. and i'm in texas!
imagine what it's like in more liberal areas.. i would not be surprised if the watchtower started denigrating and discouraging public education (k-12).. it would likely start like this: .
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Even the SDA's & Mormon's encourage higher education, albeit their own colleges. What do JW's offer? Nothing! Just keep 'em dumb and dependent. I'm 36, and live in Pennsylvania. Huge push around 1990 onward to get your kids in home schooling if at all possible.
It was to:
1.) isolate us from the "world" and it's influences
2.) give us more time to spend in the Pioneer work, since the End was so-so close (and many did, at the expense of their own ignorance)
3.) Keep us from even talking to Guidance Counselors about college or university.
4.) We were to learn a trade if a boy, and if a girl, learn to be a secretary at most, and submissive Stepford wife at least.
This isn't anything new. And yes, all of the home-schooled kids around here turned out to be morons and social retards. Ugh!
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Just Sharing a couple of experiences I heard in the last day or two about ones leaving the Borg.
by Crazyguy ini was having breakfast with a friend and former jw just yesterday and he informed me that the place we were eating in is owned by a former witness.
the story goes as he tells me that the wife and husband or on the outs and getting a divorce.
now just so you know the state i live in, a divorce is not quick, mandatory waiting period etc.
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Wow.....thanks Millie210. It's nice to know something I posted positively effected a new reader on here.
Honestly, I have many more experiences of my time growing up in the Org, that is just one of the more heartless ones. I don't miss that "Organization", not one bit. I was born into it, and all it did was take, Take, TAKE, and give absolutely NOTHING back in return.
In contrast, the very next day a van with my mother's so-called "worldly" co-workers showed up to visit my mother on her last coherent day on earth. Not one JW came. Not ONE. It was her nurse coworkers who took a day off, rented a van, and drove 250 miles to UVa Charlottesville to visit my mother, raise her spirits, thank her for her kindness, and then buy me lunch at the UVa cafeteria to relate stories of her to me. Of how she would always carry a small photo album of pictures of me in her purse, and show them to her friends. That she was proud of me. I hadn't met these people before, but they had watched me grow in her pictures. I cried into my salad. I was floored. And then......even then and there........I was amazed at the loving kindness and Christ-like love I was shown by them. And the JW's? No where to be found. Those same coworkers of course came to her funeral as well. The sisters my mother once used to work field service with couldn't be bothered.
I am so done with that heartless religion.
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Wolves in sheep clothing
by Israel Ricky Gonzales ini was baptized then i was 15 years old and just entering high school.
i had been a perfect jw teenager through out my high school years, although i craved to be a little bit worldly.
when i graduated high school, i moved out and got a job working with my older non-jw brother.
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I learned about "preferential treatment" at a very young age - 10. An MS and his family moved into our Congregation with his family, which included a 13-yr old bold named David. Of course, since Daddy MS was an MS already, he had instant authority. David, (who had to repeat a few years of school because of his family moving around so much) was in my 4th grade class. David was a totally two-faced double-lifer manipulative bully. He hated and resented that I was a straight-A student, and overall JW goody-two-shoes at the time. So, David took it upon himself to gather the other bullies and have the crap kicked out of me on almost daily basis. After several Principal calls later, my parents were fed up with this incredible treatment, and actually took photos of my bruised body. (this was 1989, BTW). A meeting was called between our families one Saturday at the Kingdom Hall. At said meeting, I was questioned by this Daddy MS about what I was doing, etc and eventually it was stated by Daddy MS that "I" must be bringing these beatings upon myself!!!!!!! Basically, we were treated to a, "Blame the Victim Party", and I was the guest of honour. I was 10 years old, David was 13!!!! WTF???? I can't recall how my parents handled it, but I left that meeting bawling, and I never saw the Organization the same way ever again. So much for "Divine Protection." I never had a lick of problems in grade school up until this point, and now a 13-yr old JW had kicked the crap out of me repeatedly and somehow, "I" was responsible for my own belittlement??? Something switched on in me that year. I said, "F*ck this hateful environment", and never trusted another JW ever again. Several years later (I was 16 I believe) I was visiting a different Congregation for the Memorial. I was taking a leak in a stall when David and some other guy walked in. They didn't know (or care?) that anyone else was in there. They were talking about which Pioneer Sister they wanted to bang. At the Memorial!!!!! What a freakin' scumbag that guy turned out to be. Be he was a manipulative narcissist, so everyone thought he was just great!! Well guess what? They can have that douchebag. They can keep him. I never had to sit in a JC, but sitting in a meeting were an MS who was new got to question me about my own beatings, and then turning it around to make it out like it was my fault and deserved it, was enough for me. I was 10! I can really feel for how you all. I felt so violated and like I didn't matter..... -
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Question and answers for fisherperson regardingy time at bethel
by _Morpheus inso fisherperson sent me a pm asking a bunch of questions re my time at beth hell.
rather than respond in a pm i will post the q/a here as i have nothing to hide.
q:what years did you serve in brooklyn bethel?
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Oh I like reading about Bethel experiences, but I'd estimate 75% of this thread is the "Fisherman" BS back-n-forth.
Sheesh.
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I just luv how they are already looking ahead to selling off all of the vehicles, tools, and equipment they have used in order to squeeze out every last "nickle" and dime. What greed. How about donating some of those vehicles to the less fortunate ones in congregations who need them? How about giving or loaning all of those wonderful tools and equipment to RBC quickbuild sites, etc in order to save THEM money and expense? It's like they don't have any foresight or care at all about anyone outside of the Warwick bubble.