Yes, JW's and SDA's are children of the same 1800's movement, the Milleritte Second Advent movement. It's all so convoluted and absurd. They are sisters, but completely renounce one another. Oh, the irony.
WingCommander
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Jehovah / Yahweh must be blessing the Seventh Day Adventist movement and not the Jehovah`s Witnesses.
by smiddy inif you look at the facts and history of both of these religions , you do see a similarity , not only in belief , but also the timing of their origins.
end times ., paradise earth ( similar to the christadephians , baptists ,and other end times religions ) etc.. the jehovah`s witnesses s put a lot of weight on everybody doing door to door work in the ministry .and counting the time spent doing so.. the seventh day adventists do a fraction of the time doing door to door ministry by everybody in their religion , if they even require every body to go d2d and count their time.
i do not know.. what i do know is that the s.d.a.`s have more than twice the number of active believers than the j.w.`s do , over a similar time of history .. so does that not indicate conclusively that the god of the bible is blessing the s.d.a.`s over the j.w.`s ?
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Jehovah / Yahweh must be blessing the Seventh Day Adventist movement and not the Jehovah`s Witnesses.
by smiddy inif you look at the facts and history of both of these religions , you do see a similarity , not only in belief , but also the timing of their origins.
end times ., paradise earth ( similar to the christadephians , baptists ,and other end times religions ) etc.. the jehovah`s witnesses s put a lot of weight on everybody doing door to door work in the ministry .and counting the time spent doing so.. the seventh day adventists do a fraction of the time doing door to door ministry by everybody in their religion , if they even require every body to go d2d and count their time.
i do not know.. what i do know is that the s.d.a.`s have more than twice the number of active believers than the j.w.`s do , over a similar time of history .. so does that not indicate conclusively that the god of the bible is blessing the s.d.a.`s over the j.w.`s ?
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WingCommander
I thought this for a long time. The same could be said for another 1800's cult - Mormonism. (LDS)
When I was early out of the JW's, I felt the need to research their history, etc. I came across Seventh Day Adventists. I liked what I saw, and that the belief structure was similar, but not as strict. I too liked that unlike JW's, SDA's have hospitals, schools, private schools for children, charities, and outreach programs. They have abandoned some of the more whacky Ellen White prophetic nonsense. (think Millerite/Russell crap) However, upon even closer inspection I saw the same Pharasitical pattern of strict rules, odd/whacky beliefs, authoritarian dictates, Mosaic rules/laws, and familiar end-times apocalyptic literature. (yeah, they have stands at county fairs too with this same type of crap!!!). This combined with a similar Ex-SDA online presence was enough to send me running for the hills. Guess what? They also practice SHUNNING, though they'll flat out deny it, just like the JW's try and gloss it over. I'd never get involved with them now that I've done my homework.
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JW History in Pictures #1
by Wild_Thing inthe death of a cult leader.
the gaudy and ostentatiousness of the proceedings following the death of charles taze russell is really interesting to look at.
i can't decide if it is further proof of how much of a cult they were, even back then, or how much they are just like other religions, like the catholics.
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WingCommander
What a far cry from the little bit of NOTHING that regular rank and file JW's get at their "Memorial Talk".
5 minutes about the abused.......errrr......deceased, then 45 minutes of a WT recruitment informercial from a WT HQ approved "outline."
Absolutely disgusting! As for Russell or any of the other WT leaders "funerals", can you say, "Create Worship? Idolatry?" I knew you could.
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Only a few days ago I was entirely lost and without hope the rug was pulled out from under me
by elderess inonly a few days ago i was walking around the house in a mindless wander thinking if i needed to seek professional help.
then i got the courage to seek the comfort of complete strangers on the internet and found a world of support here on this website.
thank you simon and whoever else has made this website possible.
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WingCommander
John Aguila, is this YOU, but in female form? Sounds too good to be true. I hope it is true, but the long windedness and flat-out "whooper" writing style seem very similar. C'mon John, I know you're out there somewhere! -
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Special meeting this weekend in canada anyone know what it is about?
by hoser init is announced for sunday afternoon.
i am just wondering if it is a local thing or national.
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Fat-assed Geoffery Jackson DEMANDS more maple syrup! The real stuff, not that Aunt Jemima crap! -
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Today's Daily Text - Being Uneducated And Ordinary... WTF!!!
by Divergent inthursday, march 3. they were uneducated and ordinary men.—acts 4:13.. in recent years, the spiritual instruction provided by jehovah’s organization has reflected an increased emphasis on simplicity and clarity.
consider three examples.
first, there is the simplified edition of the watchtower.
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WingCommander
Pure, contrived, BS!! Luke was a doctor. Paul was a tax collector (math, anyone?) Funny, when WT HQ comes calling, they want EDUCATED lawyers, accountants, and engineers to work in the big house. Those who clean toilets and wash windows are a dime a dozen, and fully expendable. People need to get a clue and see this for what it is - a total farce of a religion. -
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Add your Stupid title of Winess books that did not come true
by Witness 007 in"millions now living will never die.
" -1922. sorry rutherford but they did!.
"god's kingdom of 1000 years has aproached!
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WingCommander
The Young People Ask article that never was:
Revelation; How NOT to Grand Climax in Your Hand.
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Memorial campaign with videos??
by BeautifulMind ingood morning from the east coast.
i have a question.
a friend of mine texted me and one of the things she said was that they were getting a lot of great responses with the campaign because they are showing the video.
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WingCommander
Scientologists have a slew of crazy videos too, produced down in Clearwater, FL. I don't watch any of them either. -
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Damn it feels good to be free and on my own without the pressure to do more as a JW slave
by No Longer a JW Brother ini don't know where to begin but damn it feels so good to be free of mind control.
i'm only officially out since this past december but i was out mentally for two hot years under the close watch of my batshit crazy psycho parents who bothered me every sunday to see what i thought about the meeting.
it was necessary for me to lie through my teeth.
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WingCommander
lol at Flipper. Yes Flip, you get a Gold Star! Nicely done. That Neo-Nazi ended up stuffed in his own display case for the world to see. lol. Falling Down was a great movie. Can't believe it's 23 years old. Wow! -
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Ten years out.....
by snare&racket ini'm not sure how useful this post will be, but i feel compelled to write it.
with many of my older posts, i wrote them with a younger jw version of me in mind.
with this i write it with a younger newly ex jw in mind.. ten years ago i went to my presiding overseer and told him my concerns about wt owning 'rand cam' military stocks, about unfulfilled prophecy and human error in the governing body and the theocratic consequences of such.
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WingCommander
S&R:
So glad to hear from you again. I've been reading your posts from the very beginning, and have always enjoyed them. I agree with a lot of what you wrote.