Posts by WingCommander

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Another generation....

by joey jojo in

it has been 21 years since the 1995 article that pretty much buried the idea of the '1914 generation'.. remember those guys?

the ones born in 1914 that would still be alive when the end of the system arrived.. i'm glad i'm old enough to remember going from door to door, preaching this belief.

the reason i say that is because i have a lot of 'still in' jw friends and family.

Honestly, this (1) topic cannot be brought up enough. I'm 36. Growing up as a young child in the 1980's, it was constantly drilled into our heads from not only the literature, but also from the podium in particular that us "kids" surely wouldn't ever grow up to be adults in "this System of Things.". The 1984 literature in particular really drove it home and worked everyone up into a preaching frenzy. For God's sake, the entire 1914 Generation doctrine was used as "absolute Proof", that the Society had the "Truth", and if people didn't accept this twisted biblical mathematical wizardry, well then they were going to be in the Lake of Fire along with Satan himself! Honestly, growing up in the 1980's was scary because of this cult. Every single political action or news piece was more proof that we were deep in the "time of the end", and that the Great Tribulation would break out at any time. There was constant speculation as to whom the King of North was, and when the United Nations would turn on religion and destroy it. As I recall, the fall of the Berlin Wall combined with the demise of the former USSR, really shock things up for the WTBTS. I mean it's like the hot air had left the balloon. Totally crushed their paranoid delusions of fantasy. After about 1992, it was all over. 1992 marked the year that the Oracle, Fred Franz, finally departed from "The Launch Pad." (Bethelites will get this reference) The 1995 Generation change was the first step in wiping all of that Fred Franz apocalyptic crap under the rug, and finally with this current Governing Body, right out the door!!! Even crazy Fred's "types and anti-types" crap is totally GONE!!! This was just stated within the past year in WT articles. No more types and anti-types, and applying future fulfillment on previous prophecy.

So yeah, saying this is a different religion from the one I was born into in 1979, would be a complete understatement. My parents have already passed away, going on 10 years now. Their jaws would be on the floor to see what for a sham this has all become now. They just simply wouldn't believe it. Hell, I'm still alive, and I can barely believe the convoluted BS that continues to be spew forth.

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I would rather be in the JW cult than the ex-jw cult

by questioningmyfaith in

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i have posted one other time on this website.

just for the mere fact that i wasn't anger and bitter and ready to declare the gb the sociopathic criminals that so many here ascribe to, my initial question digressed to bickering over ad hominem attacks against the gb and not my beliefs that i'm questioning.

some did give me some help on my questions.

WingCommander

Tell ya what, Pal: You like the JW cult so much? You think their behinds smell like roses after they crap Tiffany cuff-links? Well then, you can have it! In fact, you can take it and SHOVE IT!

I was never so happier in my life, than when I realized what for a mind-job CULT I had been raised in, and that I was finally free from these abusive, manipulative, uncaring - psychos! Good Riddance.

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To those who attended, attendance up or down at your memorial?

by Crazyguy in

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interesting to see if there's a noticeable trend in memorial attendance.

also did they talk more then usual about ones not to partake?

WingCommander

So from what I'm seeing from the above numbers quoted, how's that JW Broadcasting and Cart Witnessing working out for them?

EPIC FAIL. (insert Jesus facepalm here)

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...the relief of Congregation Members

by Lostandfound in

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just clearing out all old stuff and came across tyhis line in my copy of the uk memorandum of constitution, passed by each uk cong in (i think) 1997).

this line bemused me as i know of no witness who ever receiver financial help from their congregation.

clause 4.2.4 read for other charitable purposes including the relief of congregation members who are in conditions of need hardship or distress.

WingCommander

Official WatchTower Charity's Mission Statement:

"Go forth, be warm and well fed................"

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Terrorist attack in Belgium

by ILoveTTATT2 in

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check the news.

there was a terrorist attack in brussells, couple of bombs detonated in the brussell airport and the metro.. 36 dead so far.. i send my sincerest condolences to the people of belgium.. the motive seems to be revenge for the capture of the last surviving member of the paris terrorist attacks..

WingCommander

Another day, another example of fine conduct and love from "the religion of peace." But hey, what do I know? I live in what the Ayotollah of Iran called, "The Great Satan".

Now I ask all of you, what did Belgium ever do to anyone, besides unleash the incredible leg-splitting Jean-Claude Van Dam upon the world?

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Dan Sydlik

by done4good in

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morning warship - he was the only restraint and i'm not saying that lightly.

i know there are a dozen others here who were in bethel back in the early 2000's who know what i'm talking about.

he actually kept me thinking this was jehovah's org because of his sincerity as if the holy spirit was operating in him.

WingCommander

Thanks GoneAwol:

Now just think, did Sydlak and his family's behaviour not "stumble" that young family out of the "the truth"? Surely, that makes them bloodguilty in Jehovah's eyes. If I were the husband, I would have went right to the row of assholes and promptly gave them all the finger, after telling them what for incredibly hateful wankers they all are.

What an incredible story of so-called "Christian Love" from the fine "brothers and sisters". **GAG**

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Need confirmation: WT bought an entire mountain in China to mine the granite needed for new WT HQ

by WingCommander in

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someone asked for a second source on this, so i'm putting this out there to those who may have visited the new wt hq lately and know it to be true.

i had read from others on the ex-jw subreddit that had taken a tour recently at wt hq, that they had been shown photos of a mountain in china, and told that this is where all of the granite is being mined from and shipped over to new york to use at the site of the new wt hq.

apparently, it was cheaper for them to do this and have the local brothers in china mine it, then having to by tons upon tons of granite here in the usa, even wholesale.

WingCommander

So........they are getting it from China then? Probably bought only "half" a mountain, instead of just a whole one, huh? So I'm guessing the guy I quoted above isn't just making shit up from his Bethel tour, huh?

Does anyone know if WT bought the company listed above, or if it is merely a "shell company" set up to fool the Chinese government?

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Need confirmation: WT bought an entire mountain in China to mine the granite needed for new WT HQ

by WingCommander in

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someone asked for a second source on this, so i'm putting this out there to those who may have visited the new wt hq lately and know it to be true.

i had read from others on the ex-jw subreddit that had taken a tour recently at wt hq, that they had been shown photos of a mountain in china, and told that this is where all of the granite is being mined from and shipped over to new york to use at the site of the new wt hq.

apparently, it was cheaper for them to do this and have the local brothers in china mine it, then having to by tons upon tons of granite here in the usa, even wholesale.

WingCommander

Here is a link to the thread where I saw this. It's about half way down in a paragraph. The brother describes his recent visit.
https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/4ak48i/to_all_congregations_in_the_united_states_branch/

Here is the actual text (copy and paste) for those that don't want to click the link.

When speaking about his recent visit to Bethel, this guys responds:

It was actually really boring if I'm going to be honest. I enjoyed the tours at all the other bethels despite being an apostate, but this one was especially boring. The main lobby looks nice and modern, with a big wooden QR code on the wall that leads to JW.org.

The tour itself was mainly just showing us where they eat, where they all load the busses, some offices and some store rooms. But there were a few interesting things we saw and learned.

The most interesting thing I learned was that they literally bought an entire fucking mountain in China. A lot of the outside of Warwick is going to be solid granite. They literally need so much granite to complete the project, it was cheaper to buy an entire mountain half way across the world and have the brothers over in China mine it than it was to buy granite from a retailer or wholesale.

We were showed this area that they refer to as the snake pit, and we were shown a mockup of what will be the governing body offices. They looked super modern and well design, and were quite large. The guy giving the tour told us that they originally had a different design, but they decided to go with this design because it would save them millions of dollars. Millions. For the fucking offices of 7 stupid men.

We were also showed the future location of JW Broadcasting. We saw some mockup walls of what the auditorium would look like. They're using the wood they cut down on the actual property for a lot of the project. We even saw the sawmill where they cut the wood when we got a tour of Walkill. They're doing the whole grass on roof thing which is cool. As much as a I wish I could say that they suck at building Warwick, it really is beautiful and cutting edge.

Also someone died while at Warwick. They briefly mentioned it and it really peaked my interest so I was all like, "OMG really?" To which they shut me down and said he drowned when he was off the clock. They made sure I knew he died off the clock. But I mean, the poor guy still died. :/

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Need confirmation: WT bought an entire mountain in China to mine the granite needed for new WT HQ

by WingCommander in

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friends

someone asked for a second source on this, so i'm putting this out there to those who may have visited the new wt hq lately and know it to be true.

i had read from others on the ex-jw subreddit that had taken a tour recently at wt hq, that they had been shown photos of a mountain in china, and told that this is where all of the granite is being mined from and shipped over to new york to use at the site of the new wt hq.

apparently, it was cheaper for them to do this and have the local brothers in china mine it, then having to by tons upon tons of granite here in the usa, even wholesale.

WingCommander

Someone asked for a second source on this, so I'm putting this out there to those who may have visited the new WT HQ lately and know it to be true. I had read from others on the ex-JW subreddit that had taken a tour recently at WT HQ, that they had been shown photos of a mountain in China, and told that this is where all of the granite is being mined from and shipped over to New York to use at the site of the new WT HQ. Apparently, it was cheaper for them to do this and have the local brothers in China mine it, then having to by tons upon tons of granite here in the USA, even wholesale. I can tell you for a certainty, that TONS of high grade granite are being used on site, and not just for trim or decoration, but for actual retaining walls and even at the shipping docks! Apparently, no expense is being spared in the re-building of Solomon's Temple. I wouldn't be surprised if they had a full mock-up (in Gold, matching Bible's description) of the Ark of the Covenant.

So please, anyone reading this who may have toured the new WT HQ or who even may be volunteering or working on the new cult compound....errr......WT HQ, please confirm this. I know for fact there are at least SOME apostates high up on the construction crew, as I've seen actual photos from site on reddit and even CAD renderings.

Let everyone know how the ice cream money is being spent. Thanks!

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Do you know what Rahab looked like?

by ttdtt in

hello friends - here is a new area in the kids section of the jw website - learn how to draw rahab.. 1st - she was a prostitute of jericho.

could there be other characters to talk about with our kids?.

2nd - it says "learn how to draw rahab".

WingCommander

I just clicked on this thread for Bitties, and from the photo above from Mrs R-Awaken, I was not disappointed!

Noice!