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  Does anyone know how Leonard and Marjorie Chretien are doing today?

  by WingCommander in

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  they are the hosts of the first jw documentary in 1986 entitled, "witnesses of jehovah.

  " they authored a book of the same name.

  they were probably in their late 40's / early 50's in 1986, so i was wandering if they were still active or even alive?

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  Paul & Pat Blizzard:

  They actually had their own ministry as well for several years in the USA, and then they moved to Vietnam and I know Paul is there with his ministry and also is a kind of photographer. He specializes in taking old photos, find their location, and then shooting the new location from the same spot, particularly war photos. He helps orphanages, etc as well. Has a long beard. Absolutely loves the "new" Vietnam. I actually found some news articles on him and his new life over there.
  

  Their daughter (the one that needed the blood transfusion), did unfortunately die around 1989. They had several other children though.

  I find it ironic that the Chretians live so near Beth Sarim. (San Diego)

  Peter Gregerson died several years ago now.
  
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  Does anyone know how Leonard and Marjorie Chretien are doing today?

  by WingCommander in

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  they are the hosts of the first jw documentary in 1986 entitled, "witnesses of jehovah.

  " they authored a book of the same name.

  they were probably in their late 40's / early 50's in 1986, so i was wandering if they were still active or even alive?

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  R&R:

  Thanks! I'm aware of those sites, but I'll be damned if I'm paying for that. I'm asking on here and Reddit so as to possibly find some real info on them, how they've been, etc. Glad to hear they are still alive and kicking though. Thx.
  
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  Does anyone know how Leonard and Marjorie Chretien are doing today?

  by WingCommander in

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  they are the hosts of the first jw documentary in 1986 entitled, "witnesses of jehovah.

  " they authored a book of the same name.

  they were probably in their late 40's / early 50's in 1986, so i was wandering if they were still active or even alive?

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  They are the hosts of the first JW documentary in 1986 entitled, "Witnesses of Jehovah." They authored a book of the same name. They were probably in their late 40's / early 50's in 1986, so I was wandering if they were still active or even alive?

  For (possibly) anyone not familiar, here is the free 1-hr documentary on Youtube:

  Witnesses of Jehovah

  Now, I've also found their personal testimony from an early pre-viewing of this documentary expose on Youtube as well. It is VERY insightful as to how they were recruited into the JW's, what woke them up over the years (culminating in and around 1975), and how they eventually left. They are very talkative and it's an easy listen thru some good studio headphones. Here it is:

  The Chretien's ex-JW testomony

  The "Witnesses of Jehovah" documentary has brief interviews with Ray Franz, Peter Gregerson, Carl Olaf Johnson, Dr. Julies R. Mantey, and others. Even though this was released in 1986, I didn't discover it until 2002 online, and it was like a punch to the gut. To see everything laid out, the evidence, the history of false prophecy, the interviews and experiences......blew me away. I showed my (disenfranchised) POMI JW mother, and she actually ordered both of Ray's books before me!

  Anyway, I don't feel the Chretien's get nearly enough credit, and I'm just curious as to whatever happened to them. I know they had their own Outreach Ministry back in the 80's, but haven't really found anything of them since. I hope they are living a good, rewarding, life.
  
  
  
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  Do exJws Easily Accept What They Are Told?

  by minimus in

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  we were told that we needed to accept whatever we were directed to by the governing body and elders.

  eventually we rebelled and left the organization.

  do you think former jehovah’s witnesses seem to question authority more than others?

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  JW's are mindless sheep. Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!!!!!

  The JW cult can be summed up in one word: "OBEY."
  
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  A 'typical JW' story

  by joey jojo in

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  i am friends with an elderly 'worldly' woman, who was unaware i am an ex-jw.

  she employs a jw husband and wife pioneer couple for odd jobs around her house- mowing, cleaning etc.

  the couple has been working for her and her recently deceased husband for years.. just before the 2019 international convention, despite the fact that the husband was fighting his last battle with illness, the couple kept asking him to attend the convention with them.

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  Should have informed elderly "Worldly" friend that not only were the JW's not "real" friends, but that any time they spent discussing beliefs was marked down as "time" towards their field ministry hours for the month. Bet THAT shit would have really made her jaw drop!
  
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  Corpus Christi KH For Sale

  by Sea Breeze in

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  http://www.remaxcommercial.com/?p=findahome.asp&listing=true&mlsid=3307&mlsnumber=359222.

  looking through the pictures of the interior sent me into a panic attack.

  when i was a kid, i would literally have to get stoned everyday to deal with their tyranny.

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  Wow.....that KH actually looks really nice and modern inside. Wonder how much the locals paid to make it look like that, only to have the WT HQ pull the rug out from under them and fleece them further?

  Ever notice how all of the podium lecterns look exactly the same, no matter which Hall you're at? Does some JW company somewhere make these? What a gold-mine that must be!.

  Fuck this cult.
  
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  What’s Your Opinion of Companies That Decide To Stop Doing Business With You Because of Politics?

  by minimus in

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  i think it’s terrible.

  if someone wants to believe in a political party they should not be punished or censured because of who they like or what their politics are, right or left.

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  I do the same with companies who's politics I don't like. It's real simple; I don't like their policies and stupid bullshit?

  I vote with my feet and my wallet. Fugg 'em!
  
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  Wife told me a tale about a letter writing experience and my BS meter was like "uhhh ya rightttttt"

  by goingthruthemotions in

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  so me and my pimi wife are driving today and normally we don't talk anything about her stupid cult.

  because it will end up with me saying something and her getting p.o'ed.

  well anyways i have been trying to just ignore the bs and keep my mouth shut.

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  Smells like, BULL-FUGGIN-SHE-IT!!!
  
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  Lawsuit documents (If anyone is interested)

  by ZindagiNaMilegiDobaara in

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  here is a csa from the springgrove cong in philadelphia and the washtowel.. https://fil.email/kfdhigt4.

  zp.

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  Spring Grove Congregation is NOT in Philadelphia, it's 2 hours west of Philly in southern York County. It's in the same county as Red Lion and Yorkana Congregations, which were also filled with Pedo activity as documented in the Oxygen series and the Philadelphia Inquirer articles with Martin Haugh.
  
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  What’s The Most Money You Have Made Gambling?

  by minimus in

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  casino gambling?

  keno games?

  sports?

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  $500 on a MegaMillions or Powerball. I was ecstatic. My first trip to a casino (Niagara Falls, CA) I walked in and pulled a slot machine. $25. The very next one? $50. I had $25 in tokens to use, so I kept my winnings separate and therefore came out ahead.