Just an FYI: Link to ex-JW Reddit forum topic thread, now with replies in the hundreds!
https://old.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/1dt0axx/english_august_watchtower_release_the_term_for/
so: the mystery has been clarified as to more "new light" / clarifications of decades old doctrine and procedure.
august watchtower has finally been leaked.
disfellowshipping?
Just an FYI: Link to ex-JW Reddit forum topic thread, now with replies in the hundreds!
https://old.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/1dt0axx/english_august_watchtower_release_the_term_for/
so: the mystery has been clarified as to more "new light" / clarifications of decades old doctrine and procedure.
august watchtower has finally been leaked.
disfellowshipping?
@Phizzy: Spot on!
Any "adjustments in doctrine" from here on out are purely RE-active, not PRO-active! And most certainly all about da money!!!! It's so easy to see these grifters are nothing more the slimy money-grubbing Pharisees and False Prophets!
so: the mystery has been clarified as to more "new light" / clarifications of decades old doctrine and procedure.
august watchtower has finally been leaked.
disfellowshipping?
It's like Scientology: "Remove" the "Suppressive Person" from your membership ranks. Now, treat them as dead, shun them, and make their life hell......all in the name of "love."
These cults repeatedly shoot their members in the heads, then stand around scratching their heads and scratching their asses, then exclaim, "Gee, why can't we find any more new members?"
Big mystery fellows! lol
For anyone interested reading these posts be advised: All cult experts agree: Cults shoot their wounded! There is NO honourable way to leave a cult. You are shamed, guilt-tripped, treated as dead, slandered, etc.
"The difference between a legitimate religion and a cult, is was happens when you attempt to leave one."
- Mike Rinder, former Scientologist
so: the mystery has been clarified as to more "new light" / clarifications of decades old doctrine and procedure.
august watchtower has finally been leaked.
disfellowshipping?
So: The mystery has been clarified as to more "New Light" / clarifications of decades old doctrine and procedure.
August WatchTower has finally been leaked.
Disfellowshipping? Out the door! Well, not really. It's merely been renamed to simply "Removed from the Congregation."
So now "adherents" (no longer referred to as Members due to legal reasons) can now simply be "removed from the Congregation", the same way people who pay to belong to a gym can be removed from the membership ranks due to some club policy infringement. Oh sure....you can still nod and smile to them and say "Hi" occasionally, but you're not going to have a drink at the club bar and play pickleball with them anymore. They are persona non grata!
Barbara Anderson famously made the proclamation years ago that the Legal Dept are truly the ones at the helm of WatchTower HQ. Well now, we've got the confirmation. Anyone doubting at all that this was 1000% directly because of the Norway (and other subsequent decisions around the world against WT) verdict, needs to have their heads examined. WT Legal must be shitting themselves and hemorrhaging money something awful to make such a drastic course correction such as this at such speed.
But really, this isn't exactly a course correction. It's a shell game. They're not really addressing the very actions that have caused several governments and agencies to rule against them and their Human Rights Violations. Nope! Not at all. They are merely attempting to disguise what it is exactly that they are doing, which is basically destroying families under the guise of disciplinary "Christian Love."
Disfellowshipping = Ex-communication.
The Amish and several other cults do the same. Fall in line and do as they say, (and keep your big mouth shut) or else loose your family and friends forever. It's emotional and spiritual blackmail. Holding a gun to your head and stating that "You have free will to leave any time you want, but you loose your family if you don't decide the way we tell you," is NOT free will at all! It's forced compliance thru threats which they WILL follow thru with. Hence, human rights violations.
Will WatchTower HQ address this disgusting practice and eliminate? Hellllll nawwwww! Instead, these slimy lawyers will simply rename this abuse and claim it's just removing bad apples from the bunch.
In short, this is the GB (lol, who we kidding? The Legal Dept up there).............re-arranging the deck chairs on the Titanic.
I wonder, who exactly do they think they are fooling with this stunt? Governments run by well-educated types who know how to research and interview former members?
Hey WT Legal: Get a clue! People are voting with their feet, and with their wallets. One look at the recent Convention photos from venues shows just how badly you're bleeding members due to your BS policies! The "2 Witness Rule", Disfellowshipping....errrr......"Removing".......no charitable works to help the flock......stupid dumbass video and dramas.... What a sick joke your cult has become! Any wonder why the youth are leaving in droves?
blondie's "highlights" from the may 2024 study wt paragraphs 11-17 part 2. may 2024 study article comments #2. what we do know.
paragraph #11. what basis will people be judged at armageddon….
a) “people will be dealt with on the basis how they have treated christ’s brothers” (but those know that christ’s brothers are only jws who believe they will go to heaven?).
@NotFormer: That is already what they are referring to. The F&DS is now ONLY considered to the be Governing Body, so how you treat THEM (AKA: Christ's Brothers, leading his earthly Organization) is paramount to your salvation.
However, even this in itself isn't a new concept. The old brown "Reasoning from the Scriptures" book spells out how Jesus ransom sacrifice was only for the 144,000, and only by being associated and in good standing with THEM, does mankind or anyone have any hope of making it thru. They even labeled themselves as "The Greater Moses."
So JESUS stated that He, "was the Truth, the Life, and the Way, and no one comes to the Father except thru ME,".........................
But along come a group of old Geezers in New York. They proclaim themselves to the F&DS, and they alone (now only the Governing Body) and everyone's salvation depends upon kissing their asses and bowing to their every command, or ELSE!
What total blasphemy. In fact, they fit the description of the "Evil Slave" to a "T"! Jesus said to be on the lookout for those coming after Him claiming they were Him, speaking for Him, saying he was in some invisible chamber, and demanding you to follow after them. So Lett's examine that warning:
Those that came after Him (Jesus): Several throughout history of course, including Mohammad. (False prophet)
Governing Body:
Claim to be appointed by Holy Spirit, and chosen by Jesus Himself in 1919 after an invisible, investigative judgment. (borrowed from the Adventists loaded language of course)
Claim to speak for Jesus and Yahweh as the only mouthpiece of divine distribution. The bible? Secondary to whatever the hell they say, that day, week, or year. Even questioning what they say is considered Apostasy, a far cry from the praise Paul heaped upon the Boreans for making sure of all things.
Claim that Jesus is ruling, but invisibly. Since 1914. With no proof besides the outbreak of WW2, over 100 years ago. This, in direct contradiction to the bible which states that upon Jesus return, "every eye would see." Sooooooo........NOT invisibly then, right? RIGHT? "Invisible parousia" - my ass! Him arriving in the sky for every eye to see also makes logical sense: It proves Jesus and Jesus alone as King of King and validates the Christian belief system. Jesus rides up: BOOM! Immediately solves the age-old question as whose religion is right. No more guessing. Allah and Xeno a no show? Sucks to be you!
Claim you must follow them, no matter what.....even it doesn't make sense from a human standpoint. So they're going the Jim Jones / David Koresh route now? Sure as hell seems like it! Listen, OBEY, and be Blessed! Oh, and DONATE, suckers!
Jesus also made the statements that His followers would be recognizable by the love they show, and their works, charity, etc.
Governing Body: ZERO charitable organizations set up to help anyone, but themselves at WT HQ! No orphanages, retirement homes (Fishkill for the elderly elite Bethelites doesn't count, assholes!) soup kitchens, hospitals, homeless shelters, drug treatment centers, mental health / counciling services, and the list goes on. Charity to the Governing Body is the rank-n-file Sheeple handing over every last nickle to THEM, even in death! You got kids? Fugg 'em! They want....errr.....DEMAND......that you leave your pitiful estate to them, the Governing Body! Your kids are worldly and no good anyway. These grifters want it ALL!
Sicking, disgusting, money-grubbing CULT led by slimy, weasely used car salesman types without a lick of class or humility among them. They wouldn't know "Christian Love" if it bent them over and banged them! The only bending over going on, is done by the Governing Body to the rank-n-file as they simultaneously screw them spiritually, and rape their wallets physically.
i thought i would tell this story: 2 gals and a guy came by with invitation to convention.
i am in the yard.
the gals get out and are wearing pants.
As stated above, it's the Year of Our Lord, 2024! Anything can be looked up, cross-referenced, checked, etc about any subject. Instead of JW leadership hitting back with facts that would back up their claims, they instead use fear, obligation, and guilt to bully the membership into willful ignorance and a spiritual gulag.
The only people ignorant about the dubious, criminal, money-grubbing habits of cults such as the JW's, Mormons, and Scientology, are the very members themselves. They are deliberately kept in a bubble as to remain ignorant as to how badly they are being bent over and fleeced by their OverLords.
Increasingly, these cult members resemble more and more the prisoners of North Korea. Even the literature now resembles North Korean propaganda. It's really something to "witness" from outside of their bubble. Attempting to puncture their bubble results in them going into full denial, plugging their ears, and then running away like a petulant child.
i have not read a wt for many years, but a comment on jwn prompted me to check out this one study article #19. i was stunned, they addressed many observations i have made in the "comments you will not hear" over the years.
this segment will contain comments on the section called what we do not know paragraphs 1 through 10. i will post what we do know” in another original post covering paragraphs 11 through 17”.
1) definition of "king of the south" and "king of the north.
@ Blondie:
Nice to see you back and with an excellent critique!
I'm 44, probably one of the more "youngin's" on here. Even I remember the "deep" book studies where the old timers would bring out the "Babylon the Great Has Fallen, God's Kingdom of a 1000 years, When?", and multitudes of other rainbow books of the bye-gone era to supplement the current book study or WatchTower articles of the week/month. It was brutal for a hyper-active kid to have to endure, but somehow I'm still alive to tell the tale. My parents and all of those older ones they studied with? Dead! ALL of them!
Everything that made the religion of my youth is DEAD, and in it's place is this......this.......farce.....this jaw-dropping stupidity filled with infantile gibberish. Silly sappy music videos, dumbass "Cart Song", and endless articles on obedience and unquestioning loyalty and creature worship of the Governing Body. This in addition to "Listen, Obey, and be Blessed!" as well as endless guilt trips to give more and more money until you have nothing left to give. Meanwhile, WatchTower is worth an estimated $46 Billion USD, and doesn't even operate even (1) soup kitchen, homeless shelter, hospital, orphanage, or do anything to give back to it's members any sort of charity. ZERO. They operate (1) retirement community in Fishkill, NY.....where the elite old timer Bethelites get to retire to IF they are deemed worthy.
Types and Anti-Types? GONE.
Mandatory Field Service hours reporting? GONE
Preaching to everyone until the final "Ark doors closed"? GONE
Mandatory dressing like a 1950's version of the Cleavers? GONE
1914 and Generation that positively would not die until the End came? DEAD AND GONE!!!
Kingdom Hall quick builds and endless expansion? GONE!! (the For Sale signs are everywhere)
My youth, my educational opportunities? GONE
Anthony Moron da Turd? GONE! (like a puff of smoke! Good riddance you old booze hound!)
Any resemblance to this possibly being inspired by Jesus or backed by Yahweh God? GONE
Any fear that I had that opposing this dumbass false religion would lead to my eternal destruction, any more than opposing dumbass Mormon or Scientology doctrine or leadership would? GONE! I LOL at their imaginary power trip. Get Bent, Fuckers!
Because these gritters are clearly just making shit up as they go along, and seeing what sticks while simultaneously fleecing the flock of every cent they have, from the cradle to the grave!
certainly amongst the best actors ever.
probably the best.
kelly's heroes and don't look now a couple of my favourites.
Fuck Hanoi Jane. Great actress, shitty plastic person.
RIP Donald Sutherland. You were great in Buffy the Vampire Slayer. lol
the september watchtower has already been released and is being discussed over on reddit.
some highlights: .
1. more hitting the flock on total reliance and obedience to god's representatives on earth today, the f&ds (the governing body, of course).
@Gorb:
August: Issue was expected, but pulled at the last moment. Speculation is there must some huge "New Light" that needs more "adjusting" before being released for the Sheeple to consume like pigs at a trough. (ya know, the fine spiritual banquet and all. Oink-Oink!)
September: Was leaked with full articles. (it may now be on official WT website, but I don't click that. lol)
BONUS:
Screenshots of leaked upcoming GB Updated #4 (to possibly be released this Friday) show Token Gluttonous Bozo Sam Herd sporting an elderly white beard. (unreal!)
So as I've been saying for several years now, WT Corporate Cult Motto's seem to be:
1. The beatings will continue, until morale improves.
2. Give until it hurts, then give some more!
3. Listen, OBEY, and Donate!
the september watchtower has already been released and is being discussed over on reddit.
some highlights: .
1. more hitting the flock on total reliance and obedience to god's representatives on earth today, the f&ds (the governing body, of course).
The September WatchTower has already been released and is being discussed over on Reddit.
Some highlights:
1. More hitting the Flock on total reliance and obedience to God's representatives on earth today, the F&DS (the Governing Body, of course). No matter how crazy their orders or proclamations. Just STFU, Listen, OBEY, and donate! "Specific instructions" may also include lying to the authorities (Theocratic warfare), destroying evidence, and more witness intimidation via marking, shunning, pressure other family members, etc, etc. Basically, going balls deep on the cult intimidation tactics much like Scientology has done. Why not? Might as well follow their model to a T.....worked with the real estate portfolio after all?
2. JW's
are told they must strengthen their faith in the channel, the faithful
and discreet slave and be ready to “receive specific lifesaving
instructions” as they are “about to face a tribulation…” (AKA: shred those documents and donate more money! Oh, and STFU you good for nothing slaves!)
What isn't mentioned in this article, is the cause of their "Tribulation." Numerous commissions and investigative inquires throughout the world looking into their handling and covering up of CSA and protecting pedophiles. That, along with their human rights violations via DF'ing and Shunning. (soooo loving!) Multiple large lawsuits, with Montana being a HUGE one that Mark O'Donnell just announced that WT Legal (after 5 long years!) asking for mediation for settlement with the victims, only 2 months for the trial date! This, after they were scolded and fined by the Judge multiple times. They are in deep shit in Montana, and they know it! So quick, mediate and pay them off and don't forget the Gag Order! Sickening.
So to tighten their grip on the rank-n-file Sheeple's throats and scare them in obedience and staying, they're going to now try and get out ahead of all this (too late, dumbasses!) by claiming all of this "persecution" by the local and World Governments is really them turning on the JW's, which of course is the Great Tribulation.
Thoughts?
Link to one of the larger Reddit threads about this topic:
https://old.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/1dj3cqu/sneak_peek_of_the_soon_to_be_released_september/