i'm interested in finding out what it was that finally enabled you to open your eyes to the real truth of watchtower.
what started me thinking, was the societys very own book...' 'revelation..it's grand climax at hand'.
i found that book farcicle.
What woke me up? Gees........where do I begin??? I was born-in. Mentally "awoken" by age 10, attended meetings until age 15, started searching Yahoo! at age 19 as I had nagging questions. Fully out and realized it was a cult by age 22. Never returned. Age 37 now.
Q for Nathan Natas: Before you left your congregation, did you clue in that young sister with 2 young children? I sure hope so!
just wanted to see if anyone is here from the harrisburg, pa area.
trying to see what's going on atound the area as far as jw related stuff.
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York/Lancaster representin'!
"real men keep their promises.".
i remember that bumper sticker from the 90s when i was a teenager in texas.
i didn't know it was attached to a kind of cult.. this article is 14 years old, and may well have appeared on this site before, but i'd like to reference it anyway because i see parallels, of course.. whatever happened to the promise keepers?.
interesting story i have a friend who is df but his wife still faithfully goes to meetings.
there's a single brother in the cong that is always flirting with his wife.
well at a recent meeting my df friend decided to show up to check this brother out.
It puts the lotion on it's skin, or else it gets the hose again! It does this when it's told.
Put the f*ckin' lotion on lady!!!!!
which world is this?_________________when the doctor pulled my screaming body out of mom all those 7 decades ago, i landed in a post-wwii world.it was--compared to today's world--an alien planet.. the world i live in today has nothing in common with the world in which i grew up.. there were no cell phones back then--there were black telephones with a dial-tone and an operator who placed your call.
everywhere you found telephone booths!
a call was a nickle.where did all those telephone booths go?i dunno.where did my whole world go?i dunno.. tv sets were huge boxes with tubes and small screens.
Fun Fact:
VHS only won the tape wars because the PORNOGRAPHY industry choose to go with VHS for their shipping industry. That was the end for BetaMax. It was destined to only be used for TV stations after that happened. Sad, it was the better of the two.
maybe this will become a new catch phrase describing the type of people that the governing body loves to have in their organization and that they create if they're born ins.. broke......dumb......& stupid.
let me explain:.
broke: the gb keeps their members in poverty by condemning higher education and demanding that all their time should be spent peddling the wt propaganda and going to all the meetings.
This title describes 100% of the kids I grew up with, who didn't leave the cult. Anyone with a lick of sense either
a.) didn't get baptized (that's me!)
b.) Got themselves DF'd and never wanted to grovel to come back
c.) Faded and never came back, no matter how much pressure their "in" parents put on them
d.) Was smart enough to never buy into it, and therefore got their own scholarships and shipped off to a college/Univ far away, never to be seen again
e.) Married another fringe JW or most likely a non-JW, and then proceeded to fade, never to be heard from again.
I'm 37. The 75% leaving holds true in South Central Pennsylvania region. In fact, I'd say it's an even greater ratio, probably 90%. Only man-children of Elduhs remain, and they are so neutered you'd swear they were Eunuchs. And these man-children IF they are lucky enough to snag a female, have one that is a submissive post and lay-about. No brains. No education. Barely any will to live. It's like watching the walking dead, and the Congregations themselves mostly resemble geriatric wards. This cult is in BIG trouble.
hey everyone.
so this is what 10 years out feels like.
employed, paying bills, and watching the slow demise of planet earth.
Damn, it's Jeff!!! I'll always remember your posts from the past, and about your experience with the "loving Organization" after being robbed in Cameroon. (for those that aren't familiar, WT HQ didn't lift a finger to help him!)
I'm 37. I'm so glad I didn't get baptized or get suckered into following the same path you did, although I had many on my azz to do just that!
Best of luck to you on your new adventures and in life.
when i was in, we all used to claim us jw's were "one big family" all around the world, and how we're the happiest people on the earth.
except that isnt true is it?
i knew that when i was in, but i've just had some news which shows me how unloving, uncaring and un-family like they really are.. my ex-best friend (he has to shun me doesn't he?
Pale:
If you do or give them anything, it will only reinforce that "Jehovah Provides", and in their minds proves that they are in God's Organization. Even if it came from YOU, an EX-JW, they'd still rationalize it in their minds that Jah put it into your heart to help them. It's hard man, but you gotta let them work it out. Also, your friends father is a total JACKASS for not giving up his "study" to let them stay there if even for a while. Talk about "Christian love" of a parent even! Wow! I bet the wife's jaw was on the floor after hearing that! That old bastard would never set foot in my house after such "generous" treatment. Wow.
my mom, while pregnant with me, was one of thousands of jw volunteers to work on the construction of this once beautiful assembly hall in south florida circa 1984. it had a beautiful pond, waterfall, and even a resident alligator.
many remember it as well for it's huge plaster murals on the walls showing scenes of paradises.. pics as it was before (sorry for the low quality, struggled to find good pics of the auditorium as it was, if you have any good ones, do share them):.
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Those murals on the wall were awesome, it's a real shame the new MegaChurch has decided to cover them up! Seems strange! Anyway, what a freakin' SHAFT the WT Org gave it's members by selling this lovely facility, and then lying to them that they'd be getting something else! What a bunch of crooks! Total, money-grubbing, CROOKS!
exjw's of a certain age will remember randy's site well.
freeminds was instrumental in waking me up along with ray franz's books.
if net soup and armageddon okies mean nothing to you you're probably under 30.. whatever caused randy to post what he did recently is something i can only guess at but it won't be what i remember him for.. randy, i wish you well and thank you for all you've done over the years .
Wow! Just read down thru that entire previous thread........however many pages. WTF!!!!!! Crazy! I think declining health and feeling underappreciated really takes it's toll on older Apostates. They are finally cracking. I mean, I LOL'd when I saw one poster on here claim that they had never heard of Randy Walters. Man, that is WEAK by Apostate standards! But, time and unforeseen events befall us all, and blah, blah, blah. I'd heard and been expecting a REAL book from Barb Anderson as well, were the hell is it at? Instead, we are treated to Lloyd Evans 800 page autobiography with his big picture on it, and promoted readings and book signings. For HIS autobiography! (gag)
I'll pass on that, thanks! I swear, I can't wait for the next Ray Franz. (a true turncoat) That person with NEW information on the current scheming con-men can't come fast enough.
