Posts by Crazyguy

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Helping my family see the truth about 'the truth'

by Stella3 in

this is my first time joining a forum like this.

i grew up in the jw religion.

i was baptized when i was 13 and started to fade out at 16 at least mentally.

Crazyguy

I was able to wake up a friend but I had a a lot of help. His wife had gotten dfd for mutiple acts of the big no no and he wasn't in the mood to go to many meetings. I at first had asked him a question that apparently set off alarms bells and so I had to step lightly. In time though I would just make small comments or a rebuttal to things he said, planting seeds. The fact that because he was missing meetings one of his elders came by and accused him of doing something wrong really helped me. I would just bring up little things from the bible showing how what they were doing was wrong and the scales soon fell off his eyes. Then I was able to show him more stuff from the bible showing how screwed up it is.

I think what had to be is the table set first by someone going through something that snapps them from thier delusion. Then one can introduce a new thought and the person is more receptive. You may ask your sister some probing questions about how she feels about being dfd and maybe bring up that it's really the husbands fault. Use emotion always if you can. Then if she's opens up you can insert the idea that Jesus would have not dfd you he was all about love forgiveness compassion etc. See where this takes you. If this works push the emotional thoughts some more planting seeds of doubt but don't push to hard. Let her open up and respond only a little to her thoughts. In time this may lead to you being able to share more.

Since you've been away from the cult you can Also maybe ask some questions and follow with a question like but I thought Jesus said this Or the bible said that. Again play on her emotions and stay in how she feels about things stay away from arguing over logical points or facts bring those up later when the door is open more.

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This generation, Jerusalem, spiritual Jerusalem but what about Judea?

by Crazyguy in

in the book of luke chapter 21 it's writings are very similar to that of matthew where jesus is talking about the end and "this generation" .

he mentions jerusalem being surrounded and to flee.

in modern times bible believers believe this generation is about thier generation and jerusalem is refuring to spiritual jerusalem and they point to scriptures in the book of revelations to make the point.

Crazyguy

Biblexaminer not sure what tower your talking about but correct me if I'm wrong , the wailing wall and others are of a Roman citadel built after.

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I'm getting baptized

by BlackWolf in

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i know i've started similar topics before but this time i'm serious.

my parents have been constantly pressuring me and after yesterday's watchtower study they asked me if i was going to be baptized this summer... and i said yes.

i probably should have thought about it more before making a final decision, but they're pretty much forcing me to do it anyway.

Crazyguy

I wonder if you could delay it by saying you want to read the bible first?

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I'm getting baptized

by BlackWolf in

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friends

i know i've started similar topics before but this time i'm serious.

my parents have been constantly pressuring me and after yesterday's watchtower study they asked me if i was going to be baptized this summer... and i said yes.

i probably should have thought about it more before making a final decision, but they're pretty much forcing me to do it anyway.

Crazyguy

You may have to take the dip to go along to get along. Then make a plan to get educated and get out and get a good life. Play along until your ready and prepared then move away and fade away.

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epica- ice cores

by joey jojo in

epica- european project for ice coring in antarctica.. kind of old news but fascinating.

over the last 10 years or so, this organisation has analysed ice core samples taken from antarctica.

drilling more than 3000 metres into the permafrost, they produced the longest, continuous record of earths climate extending back almost 800 000 years.

Crazyguy

Did the Borg respond to your letter?

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Update on my recently disfellowshipped niece

by keyser soze in

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friends

i had posted about a month ago that my niece, who just turned 15, was getting disfellowshipped.

i learned this past weekend that she tried to commit suicide.

between being df'd, and her dad not being around, it became too much for her.

Crazyguy

Why is the dad not around?

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This generation, Jerusalem, spiritual Jerusalem but what about Judea?

by Crazyguy in

in the book of luke chapter 21 it's writings are very similar to that of matthew where jesus is talking about the end and "this generation" .

he mentions jerusalem being surrounded and to flee.

in modern times bible believers believe this generation is about thier generation and jerusalem is refuring to spiritual jerusalem and they point to scriptures in the book of revelations to make the point.

Crazyguy

In the book of Luke chapter 21 it's writings are very similar to that of Matthew where Jesus is talking about the end and "this generation" . He mentions Jerusalem being surrounded and to flee. In modern times bible believers believe this generation is about thier generation and Jerusalem is refuring to spiritual Jerusalem and they point to scriptures in the book of Revelations to make the point. But here's a thought that many miss. In verse 20 in chapter 21 he says those in Judea must flee to the mountain's. No where in any other future writings in the bible is thier a mention of a Judea in any other way that I know of other then the literal place of Judea. No heavenly or spiritual Judea. So it would seem as though this is yet another nail in the coffin of the idea that the generation being discussed is any other then the generation Jesus was talking to. Or did I miss something?

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Contradictions of the "no blood" policy....

by stuckinarut2 in

so according to witnesses, the bible states that all blood is sacred, and once it leaves the body's circulatory system it must be "poured out on the ground" to show respect to jehovah.. it mustn't be eaten or transfused.. so how do they justify it being ok to take in fractions of blood components when these have been produced from donated whole blood?.

the whole blood was not "poured out".

it was taken to a laboratory, stored, manipulated, put through processes to separate parts of it, broken down etc.... it certainly was not "dealt with in a sacred way".. and yet these blood fractions are deemed "ok" by the society?.

Crazyguy

Here's a good one the 2006 November kingdom ministry, you must kill yourself by not taking your blood or any other human blood but bovine blood is A OK.

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RC 2016 Leaks & Releases

by wifibandit in

in an effort to reduce the number of posts, this year i will try to add links to this post.

now, on with the leaks & releases!

first up.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nzvwhflss4.

Crazyguy

I would love it during the showing of this video that those that are awake would just bust out laughing at several parts , that would be priceless.

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RC 2016 Leaks & Releases

by wifibandit in

in an effort to reduce the number of posts, this year i will try to add links to this post.

now, on with the leaks & releases!

first up.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nzvwhflss4.

Crazyguy

Now that they have video they can really poor it in thick. It's really sad it's going to mess up people and kids even more.