Posts by Crazyguy

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Let's Be Honest - You or One of Your Ancestors Was an Idiot

by Simon in

why were we ever a jw?

were we mad?

we must have been .... well, my excuse is that i knew nothing else.

Crazyguy

Yep my mom started studying with the jws after they taught her that Christmas was a pagan holiday. Yep left a decent Christian church started studying with them and the world wide church of God. Both groups were teaching the end was going to come in 1975. My mom and dad denied they ever thought the end was going to come and this was being pushed in 75 but ironically my mom got her mother in the cult and she was baptised in the summer of 1975 .

I think the reality was that with her studying with two groups pushing the same message that she surely New about 1975 and was in a hurry to get her mom in. Then when nothing happened her memory just got all bad and she can't recall.

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Why Is it the Girls who Hang in There?

by snugglebunny in

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having seen many, many people leave the org over the years, i have to say that, when it comes to married couples, it's almost always the man who makes the first move to leave.

conversely, when it comes to being converted into the witnesses, more often than not it's the wife who joins up first.

although that wasn't the case with my own parents, my father became converted and my mother followed very reluctantly..

Crazyguy

I think if it wasn't for woman there would of never been an organized religious group, ever.

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"The G.B. is neither inspired nor infallible"

by smiddy in

that admission in the feb.17 ,study edition of the watchtower , " who is leading gods people today ?

" "the governing body is neither inspired, nor infallible, therefore it (they/we) can err in doctrinal matters or in organizational direction .".

have the many jehovahs witnesses past and present who have lost their lives by refusing blood transfusions due to the prohibition on blood tranfusions by jehovahs witnesses really got the sense of this statement ?.

Crazyguy

I think they print these statements every so often to protect themselves and the Borg from someone suing them or possible criminal charges when someone following them dies. They then can show these statements to the court and say "see we never" . These statements are thier get out of jail and or lawsuits documents.

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Warren Schroeder from Bethel on Freddy, Kline and the apostate books!

by Dogpatch in

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having problem pasting this...

Crazyguy

I have met and spoke to RL on several occasions. After he left they asked him to work on a project for several more years and he did so even though he was no longer a believer in thier doctrine. This project became the insight books replacing Ray Franz Aid book.

He RL has studied Ancient Greek and Hebrew and maybe one if not the smartest man that ever worked in the writing department at bethel. I think he maybe even was considered to be a GB member if only he had started partaking. He got rapped up in to the chaos that was going on at bethel because he had helping Ray Franz with the Aid book. In the end he was able to escape the purge.

He still is a bible believer and like most bible believers when you ask him pointed questions on certain bible verses that seem to condemn the book his mind has a way of explaining it away even if his explanation makes no sense, cognitive dissonance I would think.

All in all very nice humble guy and his take on the Bible is very much more Christian then the Borgs. If some how him and Ray could of ended up in charge of the cult, all of us would be happily in the religion instead of out of it.

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God's Rule Book ....The org is setting the scene....

by tor1500 in

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i went to my midweek meeting this week.

very interesting....couple of things i noticed in the god's rule book, this week finishing up "the kingdom is born in heaven".

there was a footnote that read:for many years the watch tower was intended mainly for members of the little flock for their personal edification.

Crazyguy

Yep the the JWs back then we're preparing for Armageddon, it was supposed to take place in October 1914 and when it didn't happen Russell wasn't all happy that the gentile times had ended no he was disappointed it didn't happen the way he had said. So he quickly rewrote one of his study in the scriptures books and in the new version he said he screwed up in his calculations and forgot to deal with the year zero between AD and BCE so he changed his understanding. In the new updated version of his book Armageddon was now to take place in October 1915.

One other note he was such an honest guy that when he wrote this new updated book some how the measurements of the interior of the great pyramid changed to coincide with his new prediction year of 1915.

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In Germany, the Watchtower logo must be removed from all kingdom halls

by processor in

according to german april issue of our kingdom ministry, the watchtower logo must be removed from all kingdom halls:.

it sais that the watchtower logo - a stylised watchtower or a watchtower with a bible - is used by the watchtower society.

thus, it should not be used by congregations or private persons, neither on kingdom halls, stationary or anything else.

Crazyguy

So was the letter from the watchtower or not? And do you have a copy of it?

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God's Rule Book ....The org is setting the scene....

by tor1500 in

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friends

i went to my midweek meeting this week.

very interesting....couple of things i noticed in the god's rule book, this week finishing up "the kingdom is born in heaven".

there was a footnote that read:for many years the watch tower was intended mainly for members of the little flock for their personal edification.

Crazyguy

It's has become just a social club where they can gather be with the only friends thier allowed to have and think of themselves special because thier in gods organization. Then they go home to thier meaningless pathetic useless lives until the next meeting.

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JW's and the forgotten Jesus

by LevelThePlayingField in

so as i have been waking up more and more over the past 3 years...i keep telling myself i'm fully awake and then i wake up more, but that's a different thread.

but anyway, i've noticed a lot lately that the wt does not mention jesus or christ very much in their literature and neither to jw's in their conversations.

they mainly talk about jehovah.

Crazyguy

Nice job doing the research. Freddy Franz was paranoid that if Jesus was given to much attention or whatever people would embrace the trinity. I also think there maybe some Masonic thoughts in the cult and top masons don't believe in Christ, early masons new Jesus was a created god.

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Another Outright Lie Published 2/17 WT

by LostGeneration in

this info is from the article "who is leading god's people today" feb 17 study edition.. to help them disseminate bible truth in various languages, zion’s watch tower tract society was legally incorporated in 1884, with brother russell as president.

* he was an outstanding student of the bible, and he fearlessly exposed as false such doctrines as the trinity and the immortality of the soul.

he discerned that christ would return invisibly and that “the appointed times of the nations” would end in 1914.. pretty sickening article overall about how badass the gb is, though this little gem is printed as well, paragraph 12. the governing body is neither inspired nor infallible.

Crazyguy

Really on the roof in white?

The second part about them being neither inspired etc., I remember them saying something similar in an older magazine and I think this is done to relieve them of responsibility when some one dies or ends up in prison do to thier stupid rules and teachings. Kinda like thier get out of jail card.

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More speculation on Kingdom Hall closers and money grabbing?

by Crazyguy in

there continues to be more and more rumors of more halls being sold off some even taking the first offer.

the borg trying to get thier bond money back from the court in san diego asap and there's been elders meetings about this consolidation.

my questions is why after selling off all this real estate in new york for over a billion dollars are they still acting like thier broke?

Crazyguy

My name, the new Kingdom Halls are commercial buildings disguised as a Kingdom Hall. After these are built and are no longer profitable to the Borg they can sell them for more profit then the older traditional KHs because they can be configured to fit several different commercial styles from a Star Bucks to a Mc Donald's to a dentists office etc.