Posts by Crazyguy

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Knock knock."Who's there? Two elders!!

by Darkknight757 in

so today was a cold and snowy day in my neck of the woods and the wife and i were just chilling around the house waiting to go to the church tonight for a candle lighting service when lo and behold we get a knock on the door.

yup, 2 elders from my old hall.

i figured they were fishing for some time so i invited them in and gave them some coffee and we talked about everything that happened and why we walk away from the jw's.

Crazyguy

They won't be back they hate questioning people!

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Possible new light on 70 years

by Saltheart Foamfollower in

i may be reading more into this than is there, but here is what i've spotted from today's watchtower study (oct 2016 study edition) page 14 paragraph 8. concerning daniel it says "thus, some 70 years after his arrival in babylon, he was still known by his hebrew name" referring to an event in the first year of darius ie 539/538 bce.

however, according to the wtbts chronology daniel went to babylon in 617 bce - more like 80 years earlier.

could this (finally) be a step towards ditching 607?.

Crazyguy

In the original writings the year was 606 BCE based on the capture of the king of Jerusalem. I don't know when they changed it to the destruction of Jerusalem. Anyway pretty soon they'll have to move the whole thing forward like they did with the rulership of Jesus.

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Why Is The Governing Body Moving Corporation Headquarters Out In The Boonies Away From Public Veiw?

by Brokeback Watchtower in

i think the decision to move to a more secluded place was probably started taking shape right after silentlambs march at headquarters in clear public view of their neighbors.

i mean how do you respectively live something like this down in front of all those neighbors close by?

that's why i think they are heading for the boonies because deep down they know that their public reputation will only go from bad to worse at this late date of the faithful & discreet slave of god con game.

Crazyguy

Someone posted a day or two ago that the number of congregations in Germany is way down. The reality is except maybe in Africa the number of jws is falling. I think only about 10% of each congregation has any real zeal for the crap, everyone else may still be believers but have no real zeal. I saw this first hand the last few meetings I went to. The watchtowers of the brothers and sisters were mostly not studied and few answered at the meetings.

But I digress Jehovah is still blessing the Borg , for he had them move to a prime spot of real estate next to a beautiful lake on top of a toxic waste dump.

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"I'm firm in my beliefs": Hypocrisy and Delusion

by schnell in

jw
friends

i have a friend who said he'll have to stop listening to me after i told him about yahweh's origins in canaanite religion, because he's firm in his beliefs.. i have a mother who said she goes to the meetings even if it's wrong, and i should too.

she is also firm in her beliefs.. i have talked to an elder about evolution, and as i made the case for it and against creationism, he said that at some point i have to decide that there is a creator.

he too is firm in his beliefs.. all of these people will also talk about going out in service.

Crazyguy

The fact is people that have strong religious beliefs are usually very ingnorant. Let's consider the fact that theres a bunch of prophecies in the Bible that didn't come true and most Christians don't even know it. All one can do is try to educate the ignorant and if it doesn't work then move on.

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Steven Unthank and his work.

by WHATSGOINGON in

hi everyone, .

i have been trying really hard to find the court case transcript where steven unthank was in court in australia and one of the wt lawyers or a wt spokesperson said the faithful and discreet slave does not exist.. i hope that this is correct i remember reading about this a long while back and would love to get evidence of this.. i found steven on facebook and messaged him about 6 months ago and he didn't respond, he probably wants to let all this go, and i don't blame him for that.. any suggestions would be very much appreciated.. thanks wgo..

Crazyguy

Let us know what you find WGO and if you can locate the actual transcripts would be great ammo.

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Elder wants to stop by with the CO for a visit .

by NikL in

jw
friends

so i got a text from an elder who i consider one of the good guys and a friend in his own way.. he asked if he could bring the co by for a visit.

he said it would be "just a pleasant call and visit and will hopefully encourage my wife".

he says that "he knows she is dealing with a ton of pressure".. in all my years around the organization, i never had a visit from the circuit overseer.

Crazyguy

Yeah it won't go well for you. Once a brother has checked out they go after the wife and kids and basically treat you as if you don't exist, dead man walking. Keep them away and hopefully away from your wife too. It's hard though they'll just meet with her behind your back.

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Steven Unthank and his work.

by WHATSGOINGON in

hi everyone, .

i have been trying really hard to find the court case transcript where steven unthank was in court in australia and one of the wt lawyers or a wt spokesperson said the faithful and discreet slave does not exist.. i hope that this is correct i remember reading about this a long while back and would love to get evidence of this.. i found steven on facebook and messaged him about 6 months ago and he didn't respond, he probably wants to let all this go, and i don't blame him for that.. any suggestions would be very much appreciated.. thanks wgo..

Crazyguy

Smiddy I think the statement was more telling then that maybe not as strong as whatsgoingon stated but pretty strong.

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Norway: Hospitals Refuse To Accept JW Blood Card

by darkspilver in

been sent this - could be an interesting story - seems totally unrelated to recent events in canada, but see under the sub-heading 'debate after birth' - translation is via google, which is unfortunately not very good :(.

from the thursday 8 december 2016 print editon of agderposten newspaper - a norwegian daily newspaper with a circulation of just under 20,000 (so admittedly a relatively small regionally based circulation newspaper).

jehovas vitner har laget et blodkort for overføring i en akuttsituasjon.

Crazyguy

I like their approach, if the patient is able to speak with the doctors then procedures can be discussed as well as health warnings. But if the patient is out cold and can't speak to the healthcare providers they will give blood if they think it's needed and ignore the blood card. This protects them from liability and who knows maybe the patient really would except blood in a life and death situation.

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If Abraham had gone to Kingdom of Heaven, why not John the Baptist?

by anointed1 in

jesus rated john the baptist as the greatest “among those born of women” (luke 7:28) hence after his death he should naturally go to heaven—especially so lesser ones like enoch, abraham are already in the kingdom of heaven.

(hebrews 11: 5, 6; 13-16).

in view of the direct statement of jesus: “i say to you that many will come from the east and the west to share the banquet with abraham, isaac, and jacob in the kingdom of heaven” (mathew 8:11), people like abraham are definitely in heaven.

Crazyguy

Back on topic Jesus is said to be the firstborn raised from the dead (this is also said of Osiris) . If this is the case then how could any of those before such as Abraham , Enoch or Lazarus been resurrected to heaven or earth?

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OT - Pork was unclean... NT Now it's not?

by pleaseresearch in

this always baffled me.

either pork is unclean and wrong to eat forever, or it was a load of bull to begin with..

Crazyguy

Also Fat, the scriptures about fat say never eat it ever. Ok so they say we're no longer under the law but the Old Testament didn't say until a later date it said never. And what about raping unbetrothered girls? This was never against the law and slavery, why can't we have slaves, Jesus seemed to be ok with slaves.

If im not mistaken according to the Bible I can eat fatty pork while raping my young slave girl, isn't the Bible great!