Posts by Crazyguy

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Aid to Bible Understanding - can you help summarise any useful sections?

by Fernando in

randall watters presents the fascinating backstory of the "aid book", and the brouhaha surrounding it, in this article:.

"the watchtower bible and tract society: the critical years 1975-1997".

so far it seems the project to research and write the "aid to bible understanding" revealed serious doctrinal and institutional flaws that the gb wanted to preserve nonetheless.. it seems what ray franz and his team were learning, and were largely blocked from presenting:.

Crazyguy

I was told by a higher up that Riegnheart knew the 607 was BS and tried to get Ray Franz to stay away from the details but he didn't listen and went out and spoke with some history pros at some of the local colleges and then also Couldn't find any info at the museums either. It was this and the mediator subject that got so many thrown out of bethel in the early 80s.

Riegnheart was one of the few that got out unscathed and was even contacted to do the insight books after he left. I think he agreed to collect what ever money they would give him until he got on his feet. He was able to live cheap invest in a place and retire with money in some retirement accounts. He recently sold his place for a nice profit so is retired and doing fine. He even helped out on some of the Greek translations of the new updated Septuagint bible that was published a few years ago.

Isn't it weird that those who left gods house were able to make a life for themselves and retire with money etc. , while those that didn't mostly died poor broke destitute and ignorant.

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Encourage one another now poopie can encourage the shunned

by poopie in

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there are 2 shunned individuals that i am trying to encourage both are df now i have permission from today's wt to encourage them but i have to sneak to encourage them theocratic warfare .

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Crazyguy

What wt and what was the quote?

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Did God place the Sun and Moon in the earth's atmosphere?

by evilApostate in

and god said, “let there be a vault between the waters to separate water from water.” so god made the vault and separated the water under the vault from the water above it.

god called the vault “sky.” and there was evening, and there was morning—the second day.and god said, “let the water under the sky be gathered to one place, and let dry ground appear.” and it was so.

god called the dry ground “land,” and the gathered waters he called “seas.” and god saw that it was good.. above we see that there were waters below and waters above.

Crazyguy

Don't forget the dome is made of metal, yep the Hebrew word used is referring to metal.

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Kingdom Hall Renovation Question: Who Pays?

by breakfast of champions in

so last night it was announced at the local hall that the ldc had decided against building a new hall, and that the existing hall would be "renovated.

the prospect of a new hall has been dangled before this congregation for at least 10 years now.

in fact, the congregation had already purchased property, had approval from the rbc for a new hall.

Crazyguy

What a scam, steal all the money then when they need money for a major project oh well you need to collect more money until you can cover the costs yourself. JWs are so gullible!!!!

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Why do JW's never pray for the Spirit of Jesus?

by Yesu Kristo Bwana Wangu in

i am new on this forum.

i have been associating with the jw's for three years, and was about to be baptised soon (next month).

however, i discovered on time that it is not right to do.

Crazyguy

They the JWs are so concerned that any credits goes to Jesus you'll automatically become a trinitarian. They then completely relegate Jesus as just a tool once an angel "Michael " to be used by God as a human sacrifice. For being willing to go along with being sacrificed he Michael gets to become king for awhile and that's about it. I realize this is a over simplification but it's pretty close to the truth.

They completely miss the piont that Jesus is elevated to god like status for what he did weather you believe in the trinity or not he still becomes a God!

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Quality of newer membership

by Lostandfound in

on a previous post mamacita29 pointed up the low quality of new jw converts.. is the quality falling even more as the society use lower than low meeting, talks, broadcasts etc.. when i was active initially the organisation and standards seemed totally different today.

i have seen hard working intelligent elders fall by death or exhaustion.

the younger generation that came along never really grasped responsibility hence shortage of good elders, never mind the watered down to almost nothing quality of meetings.

Crazyguy

It's really sad that we were all being led by an organization full of men that were or are really ingnorant. Some of the guys during Rutherfords era didn't even make through the third grade. And yes in my last hall the two or three people that came into the truff via preaching were either mental or socially inept or both. One was a woman and her young daughter. Once the woman found a man she was out of there and moved away. Another was a mess and had a real messed up history. She became homeless and had to live in a trailer at some JWs property. Again when her sister stepped up and offered her a home again she was out of there. So I guess many join the truff for help and when they are able to stand on thier own they get out.

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Bad Press Is The Reason For Watchtower Corporation Move Into The Boonies For Seclusion

by Brokeback Watchtower in

with all the pedophile lawsuits can you blame them?

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i think the silent lambs march as well as dire financial straits is making them trying to get out of public eye with restricted access to headquarters, were as in brooklyn ny it was not possible..

Crazyguy

They are selling off everything to protect thier money from falling into the hands of pedo victims!!

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Kingdom Hall Renovation Question: Who Pays?

by breakfast of champions in

so last night it was announced at the local hall that the ldc had decided against building a new hall, and that the existing hall would be "renovated.

the prospect of a new hall has been dangled before this congregation for at least 10 years now.

in fact, the congregation had already purchased property, had approval from the rbc for a new hall.

Crazyguy

Well when they stole all the money from the congregations they made it seem that they would pay for any major upgrades or new halls to be built, but I wouldn't be surprised if they changed that too. Keep us posted.

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Much of the Old Testament accounts do not seem to be historical, shows internal evidence

by anointed1 in

ezekiel 16 gives a brief history of israel.

surprisingly, it has no resemblance with what we already know about israel—their origin and progress as given in the prophecy genesis 22:15-18 and also in the description that follows.

ezekiel repeatedly says (16:2, 45) “your ancestry and birth were in the land of the canaanites; your father was an amorite [descended from one of the sons of canaan (genesis 14:7), occupied large parts of southern mesopotamia, and their god was amurru] and your mother a hittite [ancient anatolian people who established an empire centered on hattusa].

Crazyguy

Ezekiel, Jeremiah and Isaiah were all false prophets for they all made prophecies that didn't come true!!!!

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Sisters running microphones?

by NikL in

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so our sunday meeting was on the 25th (christmas) and my active jw wife and i were out of town enjoying some family time with relatives.. apparently there were many others in our congregation that missed as well.

so few were there in fact that sisters ran the mics.

(actually it was a sister running one of the two mics) a friend of my wife commented to her about how the brothers just aren't stepping up and it "makes her want to cry.

Crazyguy

It's a control thing, when I was in my last year of being a asleep JW I asked to be on the school. Hadn't been on in years do to health reasons. Anyway did the elder get me on the school right away, nope! In fact he never did before I woke up, probably had to do with the fact that I was under the 10 hours per month. The cult is more about control then ever before.